Has anyone seen this?

[cymatica]

This is all silly.

First of all, DK's 11 targets in this game compare to Smith-Njigba's 9, Lockett and Walker's 8, Fant's 6, and 6 others to 4 other players, so the ball is being spread around just fine. A game of 52 passing attempts was not the best time for you to make this argument.

Second, it's well into "tell me you've never watched another team without telling me" territory if you think DK is a detriment. What a detriment looks like is well-trodden territory and this is far more mild.

Third, you're talking about someone who had three straight 100-yard games this year and a history of tough, contested catches in previous seasons, regardless of what anyone's selective memory is telling them right now. Go watch his reels from his first two years. You'll remember. He isn't getting the ball to keep him quiet, he's getting the ball because Geno knows what he can do. He would know.

Finally, yeah, he's not going to get the pay he wants, but that's because of the runaway nature of contracts. NOBODY is getting paid what they want.

I dunno, righteous absolutist condemnations lofted from on high tend to turn me off. Scapegoat mentality up to 11 this week.

Here's another stat, he has the most fumbles for a wr since 2019.

He's not a good receiver, he's only not terrible because he's an athletic freak who's speed and size demand attention, because he can use that to get open. He also never high points the ball. He never attacks the ball in the air, he always lets it come to him. He can't box defenders out with his size and smaller DBs out physical him all the time. He runs lazy routes all the time and one of Genos ints in the Giants game was because of that.

It's his 6th year and he's making the same stupid mistakes. It seems like he's gotten a little better at not letting opponents get in his head for penalties, whooptie doo, he gets a gold star for that.

 

[AROS]

Here's another stat, he has the most fumbles for a wr since 2019.

He's not a good receiver, he's only not terrible because he's an athletic freak who's speed and size demand attention, because he can use that to get open. He also never high points the ball. He never attacks the ball in the air, he always lets it come to him. He can't box defenders out with his size and smaller DBs out physical him all the time. He runs lazy routes all the time and one of Genos ints in the Giants game was because of that.

It's his 6th year and he's making the same stupid mistakes. It seems like he's gotten a little better at not letting opponents get in his head for penalties, whooptie doo, he gets a gold star for that.

Facts.

 

[cheese22]

He's not mad they are losing. He's mad because they're losing AND he's not getting the ball. It's not from not trying though. It's been pointed out that Geno's forced passes to him.
I think DK falls under the umbrella of craving the lead role on a good team. That includes TO, Diggs, Keyshawn, Brandon Marshall, Percy Harvin. They all kind of forced there way to be traded, whether intentional or not.
DK shows his true colors when things aren't going his way. Consider how many times he's gotten stupid penalties because he can't control himself. The worst part is, he's completely unapologetic afterward. No remorse. No self-awareness.
I think this is the perfect time to trade him. JSN has had flashes of being a potential #1 WR. Lockett is past his prime, but would be a great mentor if he'd re-sign for a lot less. Bobo would be perfect for the #3 slot and big red zone target. Plus, upgrading the OL will indirectly improve the receiver group, too.
People can say all they want about not being bothered by his BS, but I think that's just saying what doesn't exacerbate the situation. When everyone is busting their ass to extend drives, only to be set back because of a flag on DK for something stupid, everyone on that team is pissed at him. You notice that nobody confronts him on the sideline. They know he'll just make the situation worse and won't respond like a team leader should.
They need to cut bait before he loses more value. I think they drop off in production by trading him will be offset by paying someone a lot less money, but won't have a negative affect on team moral.

 

[jammerhawk]

He's an exceptional WR and now he's becoming the latest .Net whipping boy. The hawks are lucky to have him.

He just wants to win.

 

[BGHawk]

I think this is more on Geno forcing passes, hoping for the big one..what's DK supposed to do? Other than try to catch them..of Geno would go through the progressions to see where his open receiver is..then this wouldn't be a big as of issue. So, DK is kinda muted in his response with this..he's pissed at not getting these ball, but they are not really catchable. The other receivers are puzzled why Geno won't throw when they are open. Then Geno puts on the act that he's doing all he can. It doesn't help running our second,third string dline and getting blown out..always playing from behind

 

[TraderGary]

He's an exceptional WR and now he's becoming the latest .Net whipping boy. The hawks are lucky to have him.

He just wants to win.

Wow. I don't even know how to respond to this. "Exceptional"??

Please tell me what makes him an exceptional WR. Is it the poor and lazy route running? The fact he can't high point a ball to save his life? The fact he rarely wins a 50/50 ball? The drops? The Fumbles? Taking plays off? The frustration penalties? The pouting on the sidelines for all his teammates to see, not to mention a national tv audience? Showing up the coaches on the sideline? Or maybe it's violently swinging a helmet IN PRACTICE at one of his own TEAMMATES? Smh.

We clearly have a difference of opinion on what's considered an "exceptional" WR.

 

[soxhawk]

Facts.

No not facts. DK doesn't have the most fumbles. Ray Ray McCloud does. Deebo has more fumbles than DK...

 

[Shanegotyou11]

Someone on the GameDay thread said it best, "He's athletic, but he's not physical."

I wish I could remember who said it and give proper credit. Sums up DK perfectly for me.

Lol he is not physical? Yea i will disagree. Thats a wild take.

 

[PeruHawk]

He's fourth in receiving yards because as Aros and others have said, Geno is consistently force-feeding him even when he's well covered, despite the fact that he rarely makes catches when he's blanketed. But they keep forcing the ball to him regardless. Why is that? Well I believe it's to keep him somewhat under control because if they're not giving him the targets he feels he deserves, he will go even more psycho than he's already shown.

He's a head case, and I firmly believe the team would be better without him for reasons I outlined in my earlier post in this thread. Addition by subtraction.

"Geno is consistently force-feeding him even when he's well covered, despite the fact that he rarely makes catches when he's blanketed".

Exactly this!! Its been happening for several years. It like they expect him to suddenly become a highlights super star, somehow making a catch when perfectly defended. We see those catches every week by some receiver or another. How many of those highlights has DK ever been in?

 

[SeaWolv]

We may all be overreacting but, per PFF, his performance is down so far this year:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No not facts. DK doesn't have the most fumbles. Ray Ray McCloud does. Deebo has more fumbles than DK...

Don't bother. People would rather just make up stats that don't exist. All because DK is the Anti-Christ to many......

Not worth the effort.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

He's not mad they are losing. He's mad because they're losing AND he's not getting the ball. It's not from not trying though. It's been pointed out that Geno's forced passes to him.
I think DK falls under the umbrella of craving the lead role on a good team. That includes TO, Diggs, Keyshawn, Brandon Marshall, Percy Harvin. They all kind of forced there way to be traded, whether intentional or not.
DK shows his true colors when things aren't going his way. Consider how many times he's gotten stupid penalties because he can't control himself. The worst part is, he's completely unapologetic afterward. No remorse. No self-awareness.
I think this is the perfect time to trade him. JSN has had flashes of being a potential #1 WR. Lockett is past his prime, but would be a great mentor if he'd re-sign for a lot less. Bobo would be perfect for the #3 slot and big red zone target. Plus, upgrading the OL will indirectly improve the receiver group, too.
People can say all they want about not being bothered by his BS, but I think that's just saying what doesn't exacerbate the situation. When everyone is busting their ass to extend drives, only to be set back because of a flag on DK for something stupid, everyone on that team is pissed at him. You notice that nobody confronts him on the sideline. They know he'll just make the situation worse and won't respond like a team leader should.
They need to cut bait before he loses more value. I think they drop off in production by trading him will be offset by paying someone a lot less money, but won't have a negative affect on team moral.

Please show me some sort of proof that he's complaining about not getting the ball. He never has. But as usual, more made-up stuff about DK.

 

[Chukarhawk]

DK really struggles to get open. He's fast in a straight line but it takes him a while to get going, His 3 cone and shuttle times at the combine tell the story. AWFUL. slower than Tom Brady. 7.38 and 4.5 respectively.

 

[cymatica]

No not facts. DK doesn't have the most fumbles. Ray Ray McCloud does. Deebo has more fumbles than DK...

He has the most fumbles for any wr who entered the league since 2019. That's a fact

 

[soxhawk]

He has the most fumbles for any wr who entered the league since 2019. That's a fact

How is that helping your argument?

 

[soxhawk]

He has the most fumbles for any wr who entered the league since 2019. That's a fact

He has the most fumbles lost (9) but there's a crowd at the top there and not entirely his fault for not being able to recover the fumbles. Not anything I'm losing sleep over

 

[Flyingsquad23]

Adams was just traded for a 3rd…
So all of you dreaming of a big haul can just stay sleeping.

 

[cymatica]

Don't bother. People would rather just make up stats that don't exist. All because DK is the Anti-Christ to many......

Not worth the effort.

Didn't make anything up, I misworded an actual fact. If you were actually trying to be honest you would have easily noticed that and pointed it out

 

[cymatica]

He has the most fumbles lost (9) but there's a crowd at the top there and not entirely his fault for not being able to recover the fumbles. Not anything I'm losing sleep over

Not his fault for not recovering his fumbles? Dude listen to yourself

 

[MORGULON]

Lol he is not physical? Yea i will disagree. Thats a wild take.

He gets out physicalled by smaller CBs.