Could Charbonnet Be Our #1?

[Rat]

I feel like over the course of a full season, he would average something like 250/975/8 (3.9ypc).

At least he's durable and falls forward with the ball.

 

[MORGULON]

Charbonet had a 5 yd ave , almost 100 yds .

And he isn't injured . I'd say he IS the #1 . Kenneth Walker can't play , so he's what we have.

 

[Mad Dog]

Charbonnet is a guy you love as a coach. Does everything right. He's just not the athlete that K9 is.
But it's first world problems if you ask me. Having RB1 and RB1.5 is a good thing.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No, he is NOT a #1. He's who is filling in right now and doing a solid job.

 

[LeveeBreak]

It would have been interesting to see K9 running through those lanes that the offensive line opened up yesterday. Charbs looks much better when he isn't running into a brick wall at the LOS.

Most backs do. However, K9 has greater ability to slide outside if the hole closes...charbs doesn't have that acceleration. He does have power and if he can get a full head of steam pray for the sucka on the receiving end of that finish.

 

[SeaWolv]

Most backs do. However, K9 has greater ability to slide outside if the hole closes...charbs doesn't have that acceleration. He does have power and if he can get a full head of steam pray for the sucka on the receiving end of that finish.

I agree with this. KW is faster but not as big. ZC is taller and better catching the ball. They have different skill sets that seem complimentary. The days of the feature back appear to be over. Except in rare cases like McCaffrey. Problem is feature backs tend to get hurt more which is why dual backs are more common.

 

[hawks85]

I'm still undecided on this. If Charbonnet would learn to cut to the outside sometimes instead of running up the middles every single god damn time then maybe.

 

[nanomoz]

I think it's a 1a and 1b thing. People underestimate the value of a physical, tone-setting running back like Charbonnet. The whole team feeds off of it. Especially the offensive line. The 10, 11, and 13-yard runs in the game-sealing drive are in part a product of those hard-fought runs of 1, 2, and 3 yards.

 

[LeveeBreak]

I'm still undecided on this. If Charbonnet would learn to cut to the outside sometimes instead of running up the middles every single god damn time then maybe.

We saw yesterday when he cut outside and a DL got him from behind. That 1st gear just isn't close to what K9 has...and Macintosh. But he has skills that are highly complementary to the backfield. I'd like to see some more KM, but the coaches are holding on that. Prob something we don't have insights on.

 

[LeveeBreak]

I think it's a 1a and 1b thing. People underestimate the value of a physical, tone-setting running back like Charbonnet. The whole team feeds off of it. Especially the offensive line. The 10, 11, and 13-yard runs in the game-sealing drive are in part a product of those hard-fought runs of 1, 2, and 3 yards.

Agree...but you have to avg more than 2 yds to get the team to feed off of it. Too many 0-1 yd gains lead to too many 3-outs.

 

[oldhawkfan]

He is #1 with K9 out. Could he be the #1 back by himself without K9 on the roster? Yes but not as effective as K9. The two of them remind me a bit of the Curt Warner/John L Williams duo. While Charbonnet is not a FB like John L was, he brings a similar overall skillset. He is a good solid all around back. He can certainly service a team as the #1 back. Comparing him to K9 as a starter over the course of a season: K9 would have more rushing yards, by a lot. Charbs would have more receiving yards. They could be fairly even at TDs. K9 just has that RB it factor with a possible homerun type of run at anytime, like Warner. I'm more than happy with both of them at RB. Really looking forward to K9s return and that one two punch at RB.

 

[White Devil]

I think you're onto something with his need for more carries to find his groove, but I don't believe he's a number one.

My only gripe is he shuffles his feet too much. I still think he's thinking too much and not just running. Looks like he's stuck in mud for the first couple of steps every time he runs the ball.

He's tough, and runs hard though.

 

[toffee]

We won two games with Charbonnet has our sole back, we won both games and he played critical roles in our winning.

That's all we need to know.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Doesn't mean he's a #1

 

[MORGULON]

I think you're onto something with his need for more carries to find his groove, but I don't believe he's a number one.

My only gripe is he shuffles his feet too much. I still think he's thinking too much and not just running. Looks like he's stuck in mud for the first couple of steps every time he runs the ball.

He's tough, and runs hard though.

I remember Mr Marshawn Lynch doing the same thing when he first got to Seattle. I'm not comparing the two players in any way but it lends itself to the idea that Charbonet needs time and carries.

Kenneth Walker is a better option only if he can suit up and play. If healthy, yes he's the man for the job. I would still want a guy like Charbonet though. He's tough.

 

[JPatera76]

charbs the bruiser back like Marshawn was and Walker is the shifty AP type back imo

 

[kidhawk]

is he a solid contributor? Yes. Would he get anyone excited about our running game? Not likely. I wouldn’t call him a permanent number 1 guy but he’ll do for now and makes for a great 3rd down type guy.

 

[SeaWolv]

I think it's a 1a and 1b thing. People underestimate the value of a physical, tone-setting running back like Charbonnet. The whole team feeds off of it. Especially the offensive line. The 10, 11, and 13-yard runs in the game-sealing drive are in part a product of those hard-fought runs of 1, 2, and 3 yards.

There's also the fact that he hasn't gotten a lot of touches since he's been in Seattle. He needs time to develop and KW out helps him do that.

 

[White Devil]

I remember Mr Marshawn Lynch doing the same thing when he first got to Seattle. I'm not comparing the two players in any way but it lends itself to the idea that Charbonet needs time and carries.

Kenneth Walker is a better option only if he can suit up and play. If healthy, yes he's the man for the job. I would still want a guy like Charbonet though. He's tough.

I remember the great Tom Cable once said "He's stomping on snakes back there"

 

[hgwellz12]

I think it's a 1a and 1b thing. People underestimate the value of a physical, tone-setting running back like Charbonnet. The whole team feeds off of it. Especially the offensive line. The 10, 11, and 13-yard runs in the game-sealing drive are in part a product of those hard-fought runs of 1, 2, and 3 yards.

Fully agree. Coach calls it "a softening process" or something like that. And it's very complimentary to an explosive passing game. The more they sellout to stop a powerful back from gaining 7+ yards, the easier it becomes to take the top off with DK and crew. Inject that shit into my arteries!