Schneider GM of the year

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Let’s be honest if it wasn’t for Wilson forcing his way out and the Bronco’s getting desperate for a QB after Rodgers wanting to stay in GB the trade never happens
 

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Let’s be honest if it wasn’t for Wilson forcing his way out and the Bronco’s getting desperate for a QB after Rodgers wanting to stay in GB the trade never happens
I think Schneider had ideas about life after Wilson before this and Pete was who couldn't let go. Plus, saying 'it wouldn't have happened if everything was completely different' is accurate but... so? The results of what he did with the circumstances are what we're grading him on.
 
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I think Schneider had ideas about life after Wilson before this and Pete was who couldn't let go. Plus, saying 'it wouldn't have happened if everything was completely different' is accurate but... so? The results of what he did with the circumstances are what we're grading him on.
Wilson wanted out because he was getting outplayed by Geno and his teammates wanted Smith at quarterback. The Commanders offered a similar haul
 

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Let’s be honest if it wasn’t for Wilson forcing his way out and the Bronco’s getting desperate for a QB after Rodgers wanting to stay in GB the trade never happens
Yeah, and if my sister had a d**k she'd be my brother. Is it too much to just enjoy how well John and his staff performed in the last year?
 

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I think Schneider had ideas about life after Wilson before this and Pete was who couldn't let go. Plus, saying 'it wouldn't have happened if everything was completely different' is accurate but... so? The results of what he did with the circumstances are what we're grading him on.
If you consider how they went out and actively recruited Geno to come back, you kind of have to wonder if they told him what was going down before he took the job. Even before we found out Lock was included, Geno would have had the inside track to win the starter job just because he was here and fairly well intrenched on the team. "Hey Geno, we're gonna be moving Russ out. You'll be first in line in camp to be the starter. Wanna play with us?"

So yeah, I think they set all that up before the Wilson trade went down. ;)
 

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Let’s be honest if it wasn’t for Wilson forcing his way out and the Bronco’s getting desperate for a QB after Rodgers wanting to stay in GB the trade never happens
Wilson didn't force his way out. He gave the Hawks a choice, Pete or Russ. Jon chose Pete.* It was a good decision, and worthy of Exec of the Year.

If Pete doesn't get coach of the year, for leading to a playoff berth a team that was widely regarded as one of the worst 5 teams in the league, then I don't know what it will take.

I know it's coach of the year, and not based on his body of work, but his continued success should be re-evaluated, in light of just how bad Wilson stunk it up in Denver.

*Yes, Pete and Jon have a unique professional relationship structure, but if that is considered in the equation, the only difference is that Pete and Jon should share the exec of the year award.
 

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-- I believe the Hawks, and most of the rest of the league, have been fully aware of the Icon's limitations for a few years. They tried twice to move him in the past, and couldn't get any takers at the price tag. Even in Denver, he was the second choice after Rodgers. But with a new coach and new Ownership, they panicked a little trying to make a splash. Commanders have awful ownership as well.
-- I said it was a fleece then, and that was before we knew that we would hit on so many of the 2022 picks. Woolen is literally superstar talent, and K9 isn't far behind.
-- The only competition I can think of is Lynch in SF. I think he slow played the Jimmy G thing so SF would be his best option. The trade for McCaffery, the last pick being a solid QB, the CB they signed from KC. Those have all ben solid moves. I just still think they are very secondary to what Schneider has done.

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-- I believe the Hawks, and most of the rest of the league, have been fully aware of the Icon's limitations for a few years. They tried twice to move him in the past, and couldn't get any takers at the price tag. Even in Denver, he was the second choice after Rodgers. But with a new coach and new Ownership, they panicked a little trying to make a splash. Commanders have awful ownership as well.
-- I said it was a fleece then, and that was before we knew that we would hit on so many of the 2022 picks. Woolen is literally superstar talent, and K9 isn't far behind.
-- The only competition I can think of is Lynch in SF. I think he slow played the Jimmy G thing so SF would be his best option. The trade for McCaffery, the last pick being a solid QB, the CB they signed from KC. Those have all ben solid moves. I just still think they are very secondary to what Schneider has done.

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Lynch also traded up for guys like Ruben Foster and Trey Lance (3 firsts and a third) who might not amount to much. He also drafted Dante Pettis, Jalen Hurd and traded away Buckner for the 13 pick who is a bust. Drafting Bosa was a no brainer. Fred Warner was a good hit for him though definitely. Kittle was a good hit for him but Schneider has done more with less and it’s starting to pay dividends
 

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Absolutely not. After the disastrous Jamal Adams trade, this trade was a make up for that one.

He constructed one of the worst front 7s in the league. He is an average GM at best with a poor eye for D line talent
 

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Still can't believe he didn't win it in 2012 in favour of Colts GM who drafted Andrew Luck with 1st overall pick
 

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Lynch also traded up for guys like Ruben Foster and Trey Lance (3 firsts and a third) who might not amount to much. He also drafted Dante Pettis, Jalen Hurd and traded away Buckner for the 13 pick who is a bust. Drafting Bosa was a no brainer. Fred Warner was a good hit for him though definitely. Kittle was a good hit for him but Schneider has done more with less and it’s starting to pay dividends
It’s called executive of the YEAR , not the last five years. Lynch will be evaluated on the trade for CMC , the free agent additions of charvarious ward, Gipson , Jimmy g and others and a draft that included Purdy and Burford, Jordan mason. Also the overall record of the team.

You say all this then you forget the drafting of aiyuk and deebo, free agent additions of juice and Trent Williams , drafting Aaron banks, drafting talanoa hufunga and Dre green law . The only guys that were already here when he arrived were arik armstead and Jimmy ward. 2 nfc championship games one Super Bowl appearance. Better record in the last 4 years. What has seattle done In The last 4 years? They won the Super Bowl a decade ago

You say more with less… seattle was 7-10 last year. 49ers were 2-14 when lynch took over

This is all a moot point as Howie roseman will win anyway
 
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Absolutely not. After the disastrous Jamal Adams trade, this trade was a make up for that one.

He constructed one of the worst front 7s in the league. He is an average GM at best with a poor eye for D line talent
Great, so he shouldn't have (and wasn't) been considered the year he traded for Adams.
 
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