Bengals vs Bills

[pmedic920]

For real guys/gals.

This is not the time, place, thread for a bunch of vaccine/ Covid bulls hit.

Take it to the politics or other appropriate forum.

 

[Sports Hernia]

 

[renofox]

Injecting?

Good catch! I wasn't trying to be punny.

 

[UK_Seahawk]

What is wrong with his lungs?

Sometimes with trauma to the lungs they can use something called ECMO which basically takes on oxygen transfer to the blood and vice versa for CO2 duties so that the lungs can heal themselves without having the stress of dealing with respiration.

The hospital I used to work at was a specialist centre for this.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Sometimes with trauma to the lungs they can use something called ECMO which basically takes on oxygen transfer to the blood and vice versa for CO2 duties so that the lungs can heal themselves without having the stress of dealing with respiration.

The hospital I used to work at was a specialist centre for this.

I just read where the family said he was pronated to keep fluid from accumulating.

There has been a lot said about his lungs.

 

[hgwellz12]

Close enough. The initial research on this was very promising, but the promise has been tempered with time. However, most of the data is not in young healthy people, who are more likely to benefit from the cooling.

Just so I'm clear on the science, why exactly would "young healthy people" be more likely to benefit from the cooling? I feel like it would be the other way around.

 

[pmedic920]

Just so I'm clear on the science, why exactly would "young healthy people" be more likely to benefit from the cooling? I feel like it would be the other way around.

Personally I’m not sure about the actual data but we do know that young and healthy individuals generally respond to appropriate treatment better than older less healthy folks.

 

[hgwellz12]

Personally I’m not sure about the actual data but we do know that young and healthy individuals generally respond to appropriate treatment better than older less healthy folks.

******* duh. Damn. Thanks! I was looking at it from a whole different perspective.

 

[pmedic920]

******* duh. Damn. Thanks! I was looking at it from a whole different perspective.

Well that’s just what was obvious to me.
Like I said I don’t know the data.
Truly was not trying to be a smart ass

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Well that’s just what was obvious to me.
Like I said I don’t know the data.
Truly was not trying to be a smart ass

About with what bigskydoc said: induced hypothermia came about after doctors realized some patients resuscitated after Being pulled from the ice or being in cold water survived for close to an hour. These ppl were almost universally younger and healthier. Plus, novel treatments usually start WITH the younger and healthier and then branch out.

In this case, it’s unsurprising the technique doesnt work as well in older ppl for etiology reasons that PMedic addressed.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

From https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...harity-which-has-now-raised-nearly-5-million/

s of 9 p.m. ET on Tuesday, the donation total was above $5.5 million and with of the biggest donations coming from Tom Brady, who gave $10,000 to Hamlin's cause. Broncos quarterback Russell Wilson and his wife Ciara also donated $10,000 as did wrestler Chris Jericho of the AEW.

Not to be outdone, Matthew Stafford donated $12,000.

As for other guys around the NFL, Andy Dalton, Devin McCourty, George Kittle, Christian McCaffrey, Marcus Jones, Myles Bryant, Andrew Whitworth, Lawrence Guy, Brian Hoyer, Lloyd Cushenberry and Trey Lance are other players or former players who donated at least $1,000.

From a team perspective, the Washington Commanders donated $5,000 while the Seahawks contributed $1,000 to Hamlin's charity.

 

[pmedic920]

I’m to the point of really wondering why we haven’t heard more.

They obviously have had time to make a diagnosis, curious to why it hasn’t been reported.

I understand he and his family have a right to privacy but still seems odd that more hasn’t been said/reported.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

I’m to the point of really wondering why we haven’t heard more.

They obviously have had time to make a diagnosis, curious to why it hasn’t been reported.

I understand he and his family have a right to privacy but still seems odd that more hasn’t been said/reported.

Last I heard, the hospital has turned over all comment to the family, none of which appear to be medical professionals.

So we are being told info based on layman’s terms.

 

[pmedic920]

Last I heard, the hospital has turned over all comment to the family, none of which appear to be medical professionals.

So we are being told info based on layman’s terms.

I get it.

I’m more thinking about actual diagnosis and treatment plan.

We heard that we was down to 50% o2 and that’s a good sign but it’s not huge.

Many long term vent patients live on room air 21% o2

 

[LastRideOut]

I’m to the point of really wondering why we haven’t heard more.

They obviously have had time to make a diagnosis, curious to why it hasn’t been reported.

I understand he and his family have a right to privacy but still seems odd that more hasn’t been said/reported.

I'm guessing because there isn't good news to share at the moment, and the family might need time to process what is happening.

Quite possible that Hamlin has some brain damage, or damage to the lungs/heart.

 

[pmedic920]

I'm guessing because there isn't good news to share at the moment, and the family might need time to process what is happening.

Quite possible that Hamlin has some brain damage, or damage to the lungs/heart.

Yea, and that’s why the silence has me a bit concerned.

I’d think if it was something they know he’s going recover from they would have said something.

Obviously I could be completely off base and reading too much into it.

 

[Jville]

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

I get it.

I’m more thinking about actual diagnosis and treatment plan.

We heard that we was down to 50% o2 and that’s a good sign but it’s not huge.

Many long term vent patients live on room air 21% o2

I know a paramedic who had Mi symptoms that were diagnosed and medicated For a mi in progress on the ambo. They just got to the hospital, and he went into asystole, so they did cpr for two full minutes.

He was removed from the vent on the second day, transferred out of ccu on the fifth day, and came home around the 10th day. And look, at that time he had retired a couple years back based on the fact that he probably wouldn’t pass the physical. So nowhere Near the physical specimen of A current nfl starter.

I mean, if this is commito corditis Resulting in vfib, wouldn’t you expect a person to recover faster?

 

[JPatera76]

What has me worried is not only the silence (which i hope no news is good news...) but also that Hamlin's Uncle Glenn revealed that Hamlin had to be resuscitated twice. Not just on the field, but once at the hospital as well. That is pretty concerning.

 

[pmedic920]

I know a paramedic who had Mi symptoms that were diagnosed and medicated For a mi in progress on the ambo. They just got to the hospital, and he went into asystole, so they did cpr for two full minutes.

He was removed from the vent on the second day, transferred out of ccu on the fifth day, and came home around the 10th day. And look, at that time he had retired a couple years back based on the fact that he probably wouldn’t pass the physical. So nowhere Near the physical specimen of A current nfl starter.

I mean, if this is commito corditis Resulting in vfib, wouldn’t you expect a person to recover faster?

Unfortunately I’m aware of the injury but don’t know a lot about recovery times.

I know a lot of people including many doctors are saying they think that’s what it was but I’m not convinced.

To me it just seems like 9 minutes of CPR is a long time. I know that they had an AED (automatic external defibrillator) that would have initiated/advised a shock right away when it detected VFIB. 9 mins means there was time 1-2 more shocks.
For a healthy young individual that received almost immediate CPR I’d expect the rhythm to convert after the first shock.

Still way too many unknowns, and im only speculating. Probably not such a good idea really.