Yesterday’s Play Calling

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Top notch or top notch? That was a pleasure to watch.

Waldron tore that up imo…I thought that direct snap was an offsides on us as it was so damn fast.
 

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Not sure what you mean by "offsides." Maybe you mean a false start or an illegal procedure? IAE, one player can be moving behind the line of scrimmage as the ball is snapped, even if it is the QB acting like he's moving down the line making calls. As long as no other WR, TE, or RB is moving at the tiime and nobody is moving toward the LOS it's legal. Rams have been doing it to us for years now. ;)

And yeah, a very well called game overall.
 

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Top notch or top notch? That was a pleasure to watch.

Waldron tore that up imo…I thought that direct snap was an offsides on us as it was so damn fast.

Not to bring up the "R" word, but it's hard not to address the elephant in the room when it comes to playcalling.

It's pretty obvious by now seeing how creative and efficient this offense is with Geno vs the limitations Waldron had to playcall with Russell.

And now seeing Denver in Prime Time 2-3 times only reinforces this sentiment, because their frustrating offense is a carbon copy of what we've watched with Russell the past couple of years. LOTS of 3 and outs and missed open receivers.
 

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Amazing when you don't have to exclusively divide the field into sections to create easy reads for the QB. (not a processing issue, a height issue)
Amazing when you don't have to habitually bootleg the QB to create throwing lanes. (not a processing issue, a height issue)
Amazing when you can make the defense defend every blade of grass. (not a processing issue, a height issue)
Amazing when you don't have to make a miracle comeback every week because you can't reliably convert 3rd down for the first three quarters. (not a processing issue, a height issue)

Mother nature aging/weight gain took away the Houdini escape/improvise/high risk-high reward offense and forced an ideological transition to a reliable, consistent, sustainable, teachable offense.

Yes. The play calling can finally look amazing again.
 
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The reason we never saw a shovel pass from Russell? He would audible out of the call. There is no QB glory in shovel pass.

Obvioulsy I'm pulling this out of my butt, but I think there is some truth to it. In the beginning, Russ was all about winning, in the end Russ was all about Russ.
 

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Take a wild swing, wanna guess why Waldron offense was different without Geno?
I don't think that's the whole story though. I could be wrong? I think being a first year play caller and that caused Pete to be much more involved as well. This offense is nothing like an offense Pete has ever ran on any team. I think Pete to his credit gave up control and decided to trust Waldron in year two much more than he did in year 1. Again maybe Russ is 100% the reason I just don't think that's the case.
 

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I don't think that's the whole story though. I could be wrong? I think being a first year play caller and that caused Pete to be much more involved as well. This offense is nothing like an offense Pete has ever ran on any team. I think Pete to his credit gave up control and decided to trust Waldron in year two much more than he did in year 1. Again maybe Russ is 100% the reason I just don't think that's the case.

Does it make any logical sense that Pete would meddle with an experienced QB like Russ at the helm, but be totally hands off with the very rusty and inexperienced Geno?

I feel like after watching Denver's crap offense this season, combined with our efficiency, we can all draw a pretty logical conclusion what the problem was

and it wasnt Pete
 

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I don't think that's the whole story though. I could be wrong? I think being a first year play caller and that caused Pete to be much more involved as well. This offense is nothing like an offense Pete has ever ran on any team. I think Pete to his credit gave up control and decided to trust Waldron in year two much more than he did in year 1. Again maybe Russ is 100% the reason I just don't think that's the case.
I'll paraphrase Tyler Lockett.

The league runs basically 80% of the same plays as each other. The formation or presnap motion may be different but the majority of plays are the same.

Imo, the reason we don't recognize the playcalling is because the offense is being executed, as designed, for once in a long, long time.
 

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I don't think that's the whole story though. I could be wrong? I think being a first year play caller and that caused Pete to be much more involved as well. This offense is nothing like an offense Pete has ever ran on any team. I think Pete to his credit gave up control and decided to trust Waldron in year two much more than he did in year 1. Again maybe Russ is 100% the reason I just don't think that's the case.
After listening to what player/coaches say and looking at some of the plays from last year, I think it is a little of "all of the above". I think RW would audible out of some plays or would not trust his receivers. I also think he would too often go with the "homerun" throws when a shorter throw was available and more practical. Though Waldron getting more comfortable and more creative can't be discounted. We also need give huge props to the OL and of course, Geno himself. There are just so many things that are different from the last couple of seasons that I don't think it is just one thing.
 
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Not sure what you mean by "offsides." Maybe you mean a false start or an illegal procedure? IAE, one player can be moving behind the line of scrimmage as the ball is snapped, even if it is the QB acting like he's moving down the line making calls. As long as no other WR, TE, or RB is moving at the tiime and nobody is moving toward the LOS it's legal. Rams have been doing it to us for years now. ;)

And yeah, a very well called game overall.
Yes…false start….was typing on the go.
 

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Must be nice for Waldren to finally exercise his talent and to be recognised for it. The limitations beyond his own ability must have been frustrating.
 

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The 5 play 75 yard drive where Geno went 5/5 to put us up for hood was beauteous

It was good, but because we weren't behind and only tied at the time, somebody out there is probably still saying that Geno doesn't have the mentality to come from behind to win a game
 

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It was good, but because we weren't behind and only tied at the time, somebody out there is probably still saying that Geno doesn't have the mentality to come from behind to win a game

They are running out of road to kick the can down for sure
 

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It was good, but because we weren't behind and only tied at the time, somebody out there is probably still saying that Geno doesn't have the mentality to come from behind to win a game
While not a come behind play, he did pick up that first down that should have iced the game if not for his coaches penalty.
 

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