Let's Try This Again. Why Can't The Seahawks Make a Playoff Run?

[acer1240]

Get some sleep buddy

 

[Ozzy]

You need to ask @PNW25 how to get a name change.

Why do you think this is an insult and why do you post this in the main forum after you got teased in the shack @HawkStrong? I told you why I changed my name it was because your creepy leader and a couple others did some shady shit and Lymon suggested it for obvious reasons. Shack stuff shouldn't be leaking into the main forum.

 

[Ozzy]

Waldron deserves a ton of credit. For whatever reason that is beyond us figuring out is he seems much more comfortable this year calling plays and carrying out an identity and game plan. Some of the motion stuff we haven't seen before and it looks like a McVay offense.

I think this team can play with anyone right now.

 

[HawkStrong]

Why do you think this is an insult and why do you post this in the main forum after you got teased in the shack @HawkStrong? I told you why I changed my name it was because your creepy leader and a couple others did some shady shit and Lymon suggested it for obvious reasons. Shack stuff shouldn't be leaking into the main forum.

Wow. I was being serious, this was not an attempt at an "insult". Dude, keep shack stuff in the shack!

 

[Cyrus12]

Waldron deserves a ton of credit. For whatever reason that is beyond us figuring out is he seems much more comfortable this year calling plays and carrying out an identity and game plan. Some of the motion stuff we haven't seen before and it looks like a McVay offense.

I think this team can play with anyone right now.

I think having a qb that is receptive and coachable has been the biggest difference for Waldron.

 

[Ozzy]

I think having a qb that is receptive and coachable has been the biggest difference for Waldron.

At this point I agree. Geno does a great job of playing within the offense.

 

[JPatera76]

I think having a qb that is receptive and coachable has been the biggest difference for Waldron.

I think that is the difference tbh and I Like what I'm seeing.

 

[White Devil]

This site will never change.

 

[HawkStrong]

At this point I agree. Geno does a great job of playing within the offense.

Agreed. Geno is doing things Russ never dreamt of doing...playing in the offense as it is designed. Amazing what happens when all of the offense is on the same page.

 

[sutz]

Waldron deserves a ton of credit. For whatever reason that is beyond us figuring out is he seems much more comfortable this year calling plays and carrying out an identity and game plan. Some of the motion stuff we haven't seen before and it looks like a McVay offense.

I think this team can play with anyone right now.

We didn't see a lot of his offensive system last year because reasons. And I don't think it was reasonable to dump all of it in the first week or two of the season. As the season develops we're seeing more and more of the creative stuff we were all jealous of the Rams doing for the last few years, or as I like to say, a 21st Century offense.

Waldron has been guilty of getting too "cute" from time to time with the playcalling, but overall it's been really good and improving. I'm good with the occasional gadget play if only to keep the defense on their heels.

 

[HawkStrong]

We didn't see a lot of his offensive system last year because reasons.

Russell reasons.

And I don't think it was reasonable to dump all of it in the first week or two of the season. As the season develops we're seeing more and more of the creative stuff we were all jealous of the Rams doing for the last few years, or as I like to say, a 21st Century offense.

The misdirection stuff has been a nice wrinkle that I have been wanting to see in our offense for a while. Seems like it is becoming a staple, more of it each week.

Waldron has been guilty of getting too "cute" from time to time with the playcalling, but overall it's been really good and improving. I'm good with the occasional gadget play if only to keep the defense on their heels.

Yeah, agreed here. The direct snap to Walker while Geno was making line/assignment calls was great, the shovel pass to Dissly as well. Ditch the halfback pass from SF though. He seems to refining down what works and what doesn't, but it takes Geno running plays as designed (and being capable of running the full playbook) in order to figure that stuff out. Waldron and Geno are growing as a combo.

 

[FrodosFinger]

But first some quick thoughts on the Giants game.

The great Shane Waldron had another fantastic plan and is a guy I've never wavered on throughout his short tenure here when many others questioned his capability. However, I have some bad news in that he will be getting a lot of HCing offers upcoming, and I don't want to lose him. He is the best offensive coach the Seahawks have had since Mike Holmgren. He added a new wrinkle this week with Homer in the backfield while orbit motioning Dallas.

The Seahawks stayed aggressive throughout on offense, Geno threw it 25 times in the first half in a low scoring first half. This is huge. (Process vs. Results) The Giants were loading up to stop the run, and the Seahawks saw a lot of loaded boxes, but Seattle did the right thing taking what the defense gave them, which in this case called for throwing it more, as the Giants continued to dare them to do so. No reversion to Pete Ball was ever hinted at, and they had every excuse to revert to it given the Giants are a very one dimensional offense that struggled to move the ball throughout the game.

If Geno keeps doing what he's doing he's looking at a substantial payday, and the Seahawks should totally pay it. Having a career bust/backup come out of nowhere to play like a top 5 QB is like winning the lottery. The last guy to do something like this is Rich Gannon, and if you're even more bullish Kurt Warner. This is not normal, so don't go thinking the Seahawks can dump Geno and just find another one, easy-peasy. That is not reality. Geno is what is making this work. If he were playing at average starter level, the Seahawks would have one of the worst records in the NFC.

Re-sign Geno, find a way to keep Waldron by any means necessary, and spend all of those picks making the team stronger in the trenches on both offense and defense. It's another overhyped QB draft class, I haven't done my deep dive on it yet, as I don't really look at college prospects until DEC at the absolute earliest, usually starting in JAN. But from a glance, I'm not impressed with this upcoming QB class at all.

Shifting gears to the defense, they are running the old defense. I saw many times Nwosu at Leo with a 1T, 3T, 5T. Everyone 1-gapping, while sprinkling in some bear fronts at times. On the backend it was softzone Cover 3 and Cover 2. I opined after the ATL game to revert back to the old defense, due to it fitting their personnel better. They finally shifted after being embarrassed by the Saints, and the defense went from #32 in DVOA to #1 in DVOA in the last 3 games.

This is where Pete gets credit. He shelved the Hurtt defense, and went back to what had worked in the past. Didn't expect this much of a boost, but having the #32 defense through 5 games, I couldn't imagine it being worse and is why I was pushing for them to revert back about a month ago. They will run into trouble down the road with this defense due to how it can be exploited underneath, with receiving backs and TEs, but this is a substantial improvement over worst in the league the first 5 games and is sustainable because it fits their personnel much better.

The Giants this year are a classic example of results based vs. process based. They were 6-1 (results), however looking at their PFF and the film they were more like a 2-5 (process) team. Daboll and Wink have done an amazing job coaching up a team that has a lot of holes, and they've had some lucky breaks to boot. Lockett having the worst game of his life is the only reason the game was somewhat close.

A Quality Control Note: They need to ease up on the Ken Walker carries, no need to Rawls or Carson him. Not every back is Lynch and can be a 20-25 carry back week after week. They need to mix in Dallas more especially in short yardage and keep Walker fresh. 18 carries this week, just need to give a few of those to Dallas or Homer, and I think that is the sweet spot for him. 15 carries a game, keep him away from short yardarge, where he tends to dance, lose yards, take big hits, and has surrendered a safety.

So last week I made a thread, you probably saw it, "We Were All Wrong."

And I got major pushback for having a plausible expectation that the Seahawks should be able to make the NFCCG given the landscape of the conference. I see no reason not to stick with that. This is a weird year in the NFC, and the teams that were supposed to be contenders have fallen off a cliff. TB, GB, LAR, AZ, and even SF are not what they should be. If you notice 3 of those teams are in the Seahawks division ripe for the pluckin'. Pete will probably squander it with a bonehead decision or bad gameplan in the playoffs, but the expectation should be making the NFCCG given these unique circumstances.

They clearly have had the best draft class in 10 years via JS. The "young" excuse was always just that, an excuse. The vets on defense were the ones that needed to pick it up, and was the biggest reason why they were losing games earlier in the year, and since they've reverted back to the old defense they have done just that.

So let's try this again, why can't the Seahawks make a playoff run to the NFCCG?

The “young excuse”…????
They start 6 rookies you moron. Lmao
Just go away for good. Your takes are the NET’s worst

 

[JPatera76]

This site will never change.

How so? Your comment lacks a lot. Please explain.

 

[Ozzy]

We didn't see a lot of his offensive system last year because reasons. And I don't think it was reasonable to dump all of it in the first week or two of the season. As the season develops we're seeing more and more of the creative stuff we were all jealous of the Rams doing for the last few years, or as I like to say, a 21st Century offense.

Waldron has been guilty of getting too "cute" from time to time with the playcalling, but overall it's been really good and improving. I'm good with the occasional gadget play if only to keep the defense on their heels.

I think it was a combination of Russ not fitting, him being brand new in the job and Pete probably also having more say in the offense. This year he has that first year under his belt, Geno is a better fit and he's probably just more confident overall doing his thing. Its fun to watch and he will only get better.

 

[White Devil]

How so? Your comment lacks a lot. Please explain.

The clicks. It's just like High School.

The doom and gloomers, the cloud niners.

OP's determination to give everyone credit for the current success EXCEPT for the guy that has come in and turned this franchise into a legit contender for the past 12 years. The dude has done more than any coach in history, and it's still not enough. It's amazing to watch.

Instead of enjoying the success, adding expectations that weren't even in consideration 3 weeks ago.

This reply will get flagged as attacking the poster, it's not. I didn't originally get into specifics because of that, but you asked.

 

[toffee]

"Why can't the Seahawks make a playoff run?"

Please tell the 12s, what has the team been doing in the past 8 weeks? Really, what have Pete and the boys been doing? Playing with themselves? OK, let me share with those that haven't noticed, our team has been making a playoff run, they have been trying real hard, overcoming deficiencies, making improvements, surviving injury scares, but never took their eyes off the Lombardy Trophy.

Go Hawks

 

[SeaWolv]

Geno being the wonderful surprise he has been this year and the defense improving, I don't see why the Hawks couldn't get to the NFC CG and with a little luck win it.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

this YOUNG team is getting it done

 

[LeaveLynchAlone]

The clicks. It's just like High School.

The doom and gloomers, the cloud niners.

OP's determination to give everyone credit for the current success EXCEPT for the guy that has come in and turned this franchise into a legit contender for the past 12 years. The dude has done more than any coach in history, and it's still not enough. It's amazing to watch.

Instead of enjoying the success, adding expectations that weren't even in consideration 3 weeks ago.

This reply will get flagged as attacking the poster, it's not. I didn't originally get into specifics because of that, but you asked.

How can truth be an attack?

 

[Rainger]

Why do you think this is an insult and why do you post this in the main forum after you got teased in the shack @HawkStrong? I told you why I changed my name it was because your creepy leader and a couple others did some shady shit and Lymon suggested it for obvious reasons. Shack stuff shouldn't be leaking into the main forum.

Actually the shack and the politics forums should be deleted and let this site be about sports! 90% of the trolling hatred animosity on .net in other threads comes from there.