The 9ers are going to keep Jimmy, maybe?

[Fade]

Looks like you were right, Fade, Jimmy just reworked his contract to stay in SF this year.

I don't bat a 1.000 of course, but this particular situation seemed too obvious.

Jimmy agreed because this maximizes the money he gets for this season, he would've been paid way less elsewhere.

Jimmy can come out the hero if/when Lance gets hurt. He also doesn't have to waste time learning a new system. Jimmy values his time off the field.

 

[Marvin49]

I don't bat a 1.000 of course, but this particular situation seemed too obvious.

Jimmy agreed because this maximizes the money he gets for this season, he would've been paid way less elsewhere.

Jimmy can come out the hero if/when Lance gets hurt. He also doesn't have to waste time learning a new system. Jimmy values his time off the field.

It does make a ton of sense....I just never thought Jimmy would do it.

Bottom line: This doesn't happen if not for the shoulder surgery.

 

[Mizak]

Well, at least his pornstar girlfriend is happy.

 

[Palmegranite]

This situation reminds me of when NBC gave the Tonight Show to Conan.

So you're saying that Lance will be fantastic and entertaining, but in the end, underappreciated, then humiliated, then kicked to the curb by the wiley veteran?

 

[toffee]

But he knows Shanny's offense, and his teammates like him. And the 9ers can offer him more money than what any other team would pay at this point. It's too late for Jimmy, all the teams already have their starters.

But Geno knows Waldron's offense, and his teammates like him. LOL.

 

[Welshers]

I'm thinking he stays if the 9ers can convince him to take a pay cut, but still be one of the highest paid backups.

Word out of Ninerville is they are nervous about the kid, and would like a little insurance.

Jimmy should've been cut months ago if they were truly looking to move on.

well Fade I will give credit where credit is due: great call. I really didn't see it playing out this way. We were interested had he been cut.

 

[Fade]

I really don't see how the Seahawks would be interested.

When Pete wants to pass he wants to be explosive deep down the field. I heard him reiterate that once again in one of his recent pressers.

They aren't changing on offense. He isn't looking for a dink and dunk QB. Jimmy struggles to throw the ball down field, and outside the numbers. He also is somewhat turnover prone. He doesn't fit what Pete wants.

I think Jimmy would've signed with the Rams, or Patriots had he got free. The Seahawk rumblings was just smoke and mirrors.

 

[Fade]

But Geno knows Waldron's offense, and his teammates like him. LOL.

That's great if he's the backup, NOT your starter. Hee-hee-ho.

 

[FrodosFinger]

Lmao this just screams desperation and they mucked up the Trey Lance pick

 

[94Smith]

I like the move . 49ers have had injury issues at qb more often than not over the last 4 years and having a competent back up is a plus . Now the comp pick is in play as well

 

[Lagartixa]

He's considered to be the Niners 4th QB right now. I heard he doesnt even have a copy of the playbook.

I'm not necessarily saying he's the answer for us, but I think it's pretty obvious he's done in SF.

The way the Gold Diggers set up Garoppolo's restructured contract is pretty clever. He gets a lot less guaranteed, but there are a lot of incentives that could push his compensation up as high as $16M. I don't think the Gold Diggers intend to use him this season. I still think they hope to get something for him in trade.
For now, Garoppolo is the most expensive backup in the league at $6.5M in fully guaranteed salary. However, the same people who provided the information about his contract also said that the team discussed with him the possibility of him waiving his no-trade clause in certain situations, and I believe they hope some other team will find itself in need of a QB and want to trade for him, and that he'll accept the trade because he'd rather start and set himself up for a bigger free-agent deal in 2023 than be an expensive backup.
If Garoppolo ends up starting for Santa Clara or any other team (after a trade), he could potentially make a good deal more than the fully guaranteed $6.5M, but still cost at most less than a third of top-QB money. For his compensation to get even that high, he'd probably need to start somewhere for the whole season, and he'd have to perform well. It seems pretty clear that he won't be a starter for the whole season in Santa Clara, because he hasn't been practicing with the team and those rumors that he didn't even have the playbook could be true. The Gold Diggers appear to really be going with Lance as their starter, and I expect Lance to get plenty of chances even if he's not good to start the season.

By lowering Garoppolo's guaranteed money to just over a quarter of what it had been, the Gold Diggers did two things simultaneously: they made it easier to keep him on the roster for the season if necessary, and they made him much more attractive to potential trade partners. A team trading for him will be responsible for whatever fraction of his fully guaranteed salary hasn't been paid by the Gold Diggers, and then any compensation beyond that will be based on playing time and performance. And if Garoppolo starts a lot of games for some team and performs well, that team will be thrilled to be paying him a per-game rate below the average for starting QBs.

 

[bigskydoc]

It's a good deal for team and player alike, with the proviso that everyone knew that the Niners weren't going to let him fail his physical. Jimmy should get some game time to showcase his arm, and audition for a starting role elsewhere. Niners get some insurance, should the Lance experiment go awry. Seems they did right by Jimmy G.

As an aside, what is it with the Niners, and having QBs that are in that Nether world between being starters and backups? First Kaep, and now Jimmy G. Not quite good enough to be a starter in the league, but too good a resume to accept a backup role.

 

[Marvin49]

The way the Gold Diggers set up Garoppolo's restructured contract is pretty clever. He gets a lot less guaranteed, but there are a lot of incentives that could push his compensation up as high as $16M. I don't think the Gold Diggers intend to use him this season. I still think they hope to get something for him in trade.
For now, Garoppolo is the most expensive backup in the league at $6.5M in fully guaranteed salary. However, the same people who provided the information about his contract also said that the team discussed with him the possibility of him waiving his no-trade clause in certain situations, and I believe they hope some other team will find itself in need of a QB and want to trade for him, and that he'll accept the trade because he'd rather start and set himself up for a bigger free-agent deal in 2023 than be an expensive backup.
If Garoppolo ends up starting for Santa Clara or any other team (after a trade), he could potentially make a good deal more than the fully guaranteed $6.5M, but still cost at most less than a third of top-QB money. For his compensation to get even that high, he'd probably need to start somewhere for the whole season, and he'd have to perform well. It seems pretty clear that he won't be a starter for the whole season in Santa Clara, because he hasn't been practicing with the team and those rumors that he didn't even have the playbook could be true. The Gold Diggers appear to really be going with Lance as their starter, and I expect Lance to get plenty of chances even if he's not good to start the season.

By lowering Garoppolo's guaranteed money to just over a quarter of what it had been, the Gold Diggers did two things simultaneously: they made it easier to keep him on the roster for the season if necessary, and they made him much more attractive to potential trade partners. A team trading for him will be responsible for whatever fraction of his fully guaranteed salary hasn't been paid by the Gold Diggers, and then any compensation beyond that will be based on playing time and performance. And if Garoppolo starts a lot of games for some team and performs well, that team will be thrilled to be paying him a per-game rate below the average for starting QBs.

All correct.

Additionally, they set a minimum trade value of a 3rd round pick as that's what they would expect to receive as a comp pick if his contract expires and he signs elsewhere.

If nobody wants to meet that price, no problem. They can sit back and collect the pick and have Jimmy as a backup at a 20 mil discount.

 

[Lagartixa]

All correct.

Additionally, they set a minimum trade value of a 3rd round pick as that's what they would expect to receive as a comp pick if his contract expires and he signs elsewhere.

If nobody wants to meet that price, no problem. They can sit back and collect the pick and have Jimmy as a backup at a 20 mil discount.

I really expected (and yes, wanted) Lynch to crap the bed as a GM, but he's done a lot better than I expected. Just the job he's done with Garoppolo's original contract with the team, plus the new restructure after nobody came in with a trade offer, is quite admirable.

 

[Marvin49]

I really expected (and yes, wanted) Lynch to crap the bed as a GM, but he's done a lot better than I expected. Just the job he's done with Garoppolo's original contract with the team, plus the new restructure after nobody came in with a trade offer, is quite admirable.

FYI...RE No playbook for Jimmy. That's not a rumor. That's true. 49ers essentially had him completely in bubble wrap to avoid injury guarantee on his 27 mil salary. Now that its 6.5 he has a few weeks to get reacclimated. He's been in the offense though for 6 years and won't start week 1. Not really an issue.

 

[FrodosFinger]

I really expected (and yes, wanted) Lynch to crap the bed as a GM, but he's done a lot better than I expected. Just the job he's done with Garoppolo's original contract with the team, plus the new restructure after nobody came in with a trade offer, is quite admirable.

Lynch is more of a figure head than GM. Parag Marath does most of the dirty work. As far as re-signing Jimmy to a team friendly deal we all know Trey Lance may never pan out. Jimmy is there to take over after Trey loses to the Bears just in time to play us. I guarantee it

 

[FrodosFinger]

The first step in admitting Trey was a bust is making sure Stinky G is on the roster week 1. Not one team expressed interest in Jimmy. Lol

 

[Biscanebay12]

Lynch is more of a figure head than GM. Parag Marath does most of the dirty work. As far as re-signing Jimmy to a team friendly deal we all know Trey Lance may never pan out. Jimmy is there to take over after Trey loses to the Bears just in time to play us. I guarantee it

You heard it here first folks. Frodo aka Arlos is a 49er front office expert.

 

[FrodosFinger]

You heard it here first folks. Frodo aka Arlos is a 49er front office expert.

I know the front offices of many teams. You must be a casual

 

[Biscanebay12]

I know the front offices of many teams. You must be a casual

So does my last secretary