REPORT: Baker Deal Nearly Done

[jammerhawk]

If this deal was in reality 'nearly done' we'd have heard more than some speculative tweets based upon some unknown source.

At worst the the Hawks would trade a draft pick(s) and assume a $9.43 (1/2 of $18.858 Mayfield's mil cap charge for this season) for a player who is a UFA next season. I've always thought this report was speculative rubbish.

The reality is the parties are still not in agreement about what draft pick compensation would be appropriate or even whether Cleveland would be assuming 1/ 2 of the Mayfield cap charge for this year if in fact the Seahawks are actually interested in trading anything for Mayfield.

In other news it is speculated the moon is made of green cheese.

The Hawks are always involved in any potentially advantageous acquisition though potentially advantageous is something that some here will wish to debate. This potential deal is far from 'nearly done'.

 

[GemCity]

Me not wanting him has nothing to really do about the player. He’s an obvious upgrade.

It’s a gamble but, next years draft is QB rich.

I’d rather keep our picks and resources. Develop our home-grown players and roll.

There’s a sense of ease when you can roll into the next two seasons and not expect more than x number of wins.

 

[Appyhawk]

I think a lot of folks are ignoring the fact we don't need a world beater hero QB. We need an efficient athlete with a good head on his shoulders. The QB class for next year may be a dozen deep. Not all, maybe not even most of, the teams that will pick ahead of us need a QB. We WILL have a chance to get a player that can be what we need him to be. Spending $10M for a guy that may questionably be slightly better than what we already have isn't going to help us.

 

[IndyHawk]

Why would the Browns pay any player to not play and take a 19M cap hit when they can get all or half that salary off their cap.

You're not making ant sense. Mayfield WILL be traded or released.

Just for the reason Watson is not playing and they are the Browns..They do shit that doesn't make sense.

 

[keasley45]

Well, KJ voiced his opinion...

Link below:

K.J. Wright says Geno Smith should be Seahawks starting quarterback over Drew Lock or Baker Mayfield

www.cbssports.com

 

[keasley45]

Well, KJ voiced his opinion...

Link below:

K.J. Wright says Geno Smith should be Seahawks starting quarterback over Drew Lock or Baker Mayfield

www.cbssports.com

I think that this is why Geno is getting the start in camps thus far. He has the respect of the locker room, vets and at least one former player included.

 

[fullquartpress]

We should have grabbed Matty Ice, let him start a year, and let Lock sit behind him for a season. If Lock wasn't able to get it by 2023, you draft your guy, cut Lock, and let Ryan play out one more year with the rook behind him.

Chris Ballard apparently paid Ryan's $7.5 million roster bonus, plus another $18.5 million for 2022, so I'm not sure if we could have competed with the Colts' money.

 

[keasley45]

Chris Ballard apparently paid Ryan's $7.5 million roster bonus, plus another $18.5 million for 2022, so I'm not sure if we could have competed with the Colts' money.

Good point. But I would have guaranteed the dude 30 mill over 2 years plus incentives, easy. He's a proven qb. Smart, fast with his decisions, and potentially worth his weight in gold as a mentor and leader to a young qb being groomed to start.

 

[emurri]

Good point. But I would have guaranteed the dude 30 mill over 2 years plus incentives, easy. He's a proven qb. Smart, fast with his decisions, and potentially worth his weight in gold as a mentor and leader to a young qb being groomed to start.

I do have to respectfully disagree about Matt Ryan. I think he is a shell of his former self and no longer has the arm to really get the ball down the field. I do agree that he is a tremendous leader and I imagine he would be an amazing mentor but that’s a lot of money for a guy that is on the very end of his career.

 

[Vesuve]

this might actually have some credibility. its all over the interwebs now. Ugh. Not a good move IMO

 

[Vesuve]

No, not a good move. Desperation move.

 

[Rosco]

I think that this is why Geno is getting the start in camps thus far. He has the respect of the locker room, vets and at least one former player included.

It’s why Geno has the head start. But the better player will prevail

 

[keasley45]

It’s why Geno has the head start. But the better player will prevail

I sure hope so

 

[keasley45]

I do have to respectfully disagree about Matt Ryan. I think he is a shell of his former self and no longer has the arm to really get the ball down the field. I do agree that he is a tremendous leader and I imagine he would be an amazing mentor but that’s a lot of money for a guy that is on the very end of his career.

I dont know, man. All the talk coming out if camp is that his teammates on offense are floored by his leadership and ability. We'll see how he does. Maybe you're right.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Hopefully they hit on a great QB for the future. But it still isn't a guarantee. Literally all I was trying to say.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I dont know, man. All the talk coming out if camp is that his teammates on offense are floored by his leadership and ability. We'll see how he does. Maybe you're right.

It's camp dude. Everyone looks good and everyone's amazing.

I do think Ryan will do well in Indy, but that's because they're already a competitive team with a great O-line. IMO that wouldn't be the case here with such a young developing O-line.

Not a good fit.

 

[keasley45]

It's camp dude. Everyone looks good and everyone's amazing.

I do think Ryan will do well in Indy, but that's because they're already a competitive team with a great O-line. IMO that wouldn't be the case here with such a young developing O-line.

Not a good fit.

Could flip what you said and apply it here. We just upgraded the line, have a strong running game, and probably the fastest wr Corp in the NFL, to include one of the best young stars, and the most underrated veteran.

Is the line unproven? Yeah. Its just camp. But the arrow is pointing up at a pretty good degree. And there's evidence to close the season last year that supports that notion, rather than one that says the line won't be good.

And with Ryan, it wouldn't have to be outstanding, because the guy gets rid of the ball when he's supposed to.

And it's not like the guy hasn't been one of the best qbs in the league, even over the last 5 years. Not a stretch to believe that he's doing great things in Indy...

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Could flip what you said and apply it here. We just upgraded the line, have a strong running game, and probably the fastest wr Corp in the NFL, to include one of the best young stars, and the most underrated veteran.

Is the line unproven? Yeah. Its just camp. But the arrow is pointing up at a pretty good degree. And there's evidence to close the season last year that supports that notion, rather than one that says the line won't be good.

And with Ryan, it wouldn't have to be outstanding, because the guy gets rid of the ball when he's supposed to.

And it's not like the guy hasn't been one of the best qbs in the league, even over the last 5 years. Not a stretch to believe that he's doing great things in Indy...

We're TRYING to upgrade the line. As in potential, not present tense.

Again, this is not about Ryan other then his age. He's ready to win now, not be a team that's probably 2-3 years away and rebuilding.

Purely about fit.

 

[keasley45]

We're TRYING to upgrade the line. As in potential, not present tense.

Again, this is not about Ryan other then his age. He's ready to win now, not be a team that's probably 2-3 years away and rebuilding.

Purely about fit.

It's fine. We'll see if they're the 3 year project you think they are. Can't argue against it. Just feel otherwise.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

It's fine. We'll see if they're the 3 year project you think they are. Can't argue against it. Just feel otherwise.

Ryan to me is like any of the other still good but not great QB's that were available this past off season, they'd definitely help us win more games then Geno or Lock.

But 7 or maybe 8 wins over 4-5 wins? I'd rather go younger like Mayfield or see what Lock has to offer.

Besides, Ryan showed no interest whatsoever in coming to Seattle, so it was and still is a moot discussion. He wasn't coming here to begin with, even he knew Indy was a much better chance for him to get back to the playoffs.