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I didn't think we'd be 13-3, nor do I want to count on going undefeated at home and squeaking out 1 road game a year. Feeling like we have to chock up road games as losses is unacceptable. That needs to be fixed.
cesame":33vtgq2x said:The 6-5 record is beyond underwhelming given the schedule they've had.
theENGLISHseahawk":8ezcepr0 said:cesame":8ezcepr0 said:The 6-5 record is beyond underwhelming given the schedule they've had.
Before today's games, Seattle's strength of schedule was .500.
To compare...
Tampa Bay - 0.380
Minnesota - 0.465
Indianapolis - 0.430
Pittsburgh - 0.450
Chicago - 0.490
New York Giants - 0.455
Baltimore Ravens - 0.430
Atlanta - 0.380
Houston - 0.470
What were you saying about the schedule this year?
cesame":2znnac2b said:Nice try.
Seattle has played 11 games this year. The combined record of those 11 teams is 57-60. Seeing as how GB is getting blown out right now, it will probably be 57-61 after this week.
My original statement stands and it's back up by facts.
theENGLISHseahawk":1alt3p28 said:cesame":1alt3p28 said:Nice try.
Seattle has played 11 games this year. The combined record of those 11 teams is 57-60. Seeing as how GB is getting blown out right now, it will probably be 57-61 after this week.
My original statement stands and it's back up by facts.
And it'll probably still be a tougher schedule than most of the other teams with a winning record.
The Seahawks have not had an easy schedule this year. That's the only 'fact' you need.
Tech Worlds":72evfe08 said:Ask yourselves this Seahawks fans....
Are you seeing the improvement in this team? Is this young team growing and learning how to win? Are they building on what they have learned this season and in seasons past?
Smoke":1lxt903w said:Tech Worlds":1lxt903w said:Ask yourselves this Seahawks fans....
Are you seeing the improvement in this team? Is this young team growing and learning how to win? Are they building on what they have learned this season and in seasons past?
This team is progressing. This team is way better than last year, and the 2010 squad. Your not actually using your eyes and thoughts in coordination if you think they are not progressing.
v1rotv2":3ao7t3j7 said:Smoke":3ao7t3j7 said:Pete is not Magic. He had bare cupboards when he got here. He has turned us into a team that is on the verge of contending, what more could you ask for? Every single game we have been in, we have a rookie QB who we haven't even begun to build to his strengths yet. I wish we could lose one game without you nancies calling for PC, Bevell's, or Wilson's job. STFU.
our foundation is there, our QB is there, our Oline is young and still learning to play together. Yeah, these loses hurt, but playing as young as we are with the veteran leadership being a 30 year old FullBack or a safety that is in his 3rd year, there are going to be games were we biff it hard do to lack of maturity as players. We are still green.
Calling for heads after each loss, or even calling this team mediocre means your are not paying attention, and certainly not using your God Given logic.
The bare cupboards thing is no longer valid, it's been 3 drafts and 3 free agencies since he got here. What more can we ask for? How about taking the next step. Only losers cherish losing by 3 points. A good loser is still a loser. It's a very small percentage of our group calling for heads to roll and neither am I, but I will say I am highly disappointed in Carroll's performance as well as that of the players. Hanging on to excuses that have little to no relevance to what is actually going I guess makes it easier to hide from it.
PC and the players do not deserve idol worship but some heat from the fans is due.
Tech Worlds":360abln9 said:Ask yourselves this Seahawks fans....
Are you seeing the improvement in this team? Is this young team growing and learning how to win? Are they building on what they have learned this season and in seasons past?
kearly":1tedjm7j said:The Seahawks have gone from 30th or 31st in weighted DVOA to top 5 in just 3 years. As long as we are one of the best teams in the NFL, they have all the patience in the world from me.
There is no such thing as a clutch coach or a coach who could make us a 8-0 road team. The current Niners team is the only west coast team in recent memory to dominate on the road, and they are statistically the best team in the NFL over the last two seasons. Seattle is not a truly elite team yet like SF. They are close though. Seattle has played WAY better than their 1-5 road record. WAY better. I'm guessing that with average luck they've probably played at a 3-2 level, but for whatever reason they always find a way to lose in the 4th quarter. I don't think that's coaching. I think it's just shitty luck and nothing more.
To even post this topic is unseemly. Don't give stupid people bad ideas. But to answer the question, I wouldn't cast my vote against Carroll until it's clear that the game has passed him by and he's basically like an old Al Davis. That day will come eventually, but probably not for at least 10 years.
kearly":3hy9vraz said:The Seahawks have gone from 30th or 31st in weighted DVOA to top 5 in just 3 years. As long as we are one of the best teams in the NFL, they have all the patience in the world from me.
kearly":1f3o4q6b said:I'm guessing that with average luck they've probably played at a 3-2 level, but for whatever reason they always find a way to lose in the 4th quarter. I don't think that's coaching. I think it's just shitty luck and nothing more.
v1rotv2":wwktlq0v said:After today I see little evidence there is growth with the team as a whole. Obviously there is growth with a few players ie, RW. But I think the team has digressed. The penalties are back and the defense is getting run over as well as the secondary is being lit up. This looks just like the early stages of a team coming apart not coming together. Can PC turn it around? We'll see.