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Could be apparently...

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Seattle's MVP could be Russell Wilson, Richard Sherman or Marshawn Lynch, but its most valuable coach might be assistant head coach Tom Cable. Ask any Seattle player, and he will speak of how important Cable has been.

He has helped give Seattle its physical mindset. Lynch even waited for reassurance that Cable would be back for 2012 before he agreed to re-sign.

Cable went 8-8 in 2010 as Oakland's head coach under Al Davis -- that Raiders team even swept its AFC West games. Many around the league expect Cable to be a head coach again.

He's from Washington, and Pete Carroll is the league's second-oldest head coach, even if he doesn't always act like it. Whenever Carroll decides he's done, Cable could be his successor -- if another team doesn't hire him first.


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I don't see Pete retiring until he is forced out. He's got too much competitive juice. I'd expect (and hope) PC and RW to go as a package in 10-15 years.

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Whats funny is that Cable looks older than Pete


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Pete is the youngest 60-year-old ever. I just don't see him petering out anytime soon.

Nice to see an article like this, though, that DOESN'T involve Pete being "on the hot seat".

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Maybe, but even at Pete's age, he's not the kind of type A personality coach that's going to ride off into the sunset in a couple years. My guess is Pete's gonna coach til they rip the laminated play card out of his hands.

Which means if Cable wants to be a head coach again, his chances are better elsewhere.

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Pete is young at heart, to say the least. I don't see him retiring any time soon.

But when he does, Cable would be my choice to replace him, no question.

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Cable can be mentored, but I feel he is only one piece of the puzzle, may be it is the biggest piece of the puzzle, but a Head Coach should have all the traits of managing all the aspect of a football team like players, other coaches, media, fans and so on. I don't think Cable is ready, but he can be if he is mentored by Pete. I still feel would he have taken a decision to hire RW in the 3rd round, or would he and John Snyder be on the same page, I don't know, would Gus Bradley be excited to be under him, I doubt it, I think Gus is learning a lot from Pete, but I am not sure if he would feel the same with Cable for now.


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Does anyone else think the Raiders were dumb to get rid of Cable?

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I think Tom Cable could be a great head coach for us. I don't see Carroll not being our head coach for at least another five years. More like 8-10. He's still a kid in all ways but his age, for crying out loud. :)

@Rasta: Very. I thought it was stupid at the time, and that was before we picked him up.

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Does anyone else think the Raiders were dumb to get rid of Cable?


YES! As soon as I heard they did I thought they were crazy. Swept their division! that is worth a rehire in my book. I remember Mcfadden was a beast that year.
Didn't he run over us in Oakland that same year?

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Didn't he run over us in Oakland that same year?


Yes, but we lost Red Bryant early that game.

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Tom would be a great fit, but it would be painful to watch the defense slowly regress...

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Does anyone else think the Raiders were dumb to get rid of Cable?


I think everyone other than Al Davis.

Cable had the Raiders playing hard nasty football............but that was the Al Davis way, "you either win with the horrifically terrible draft picks and free agents I personally pick cause I'm still living in 1975, or you get fired."

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Cable can be mentored, but I feel he is only one piece of the puzzle, may be it is the biggest piece of the puzzle, but a Head Coach should have all the traits of managing all the aspect of a football team like players, other coaches, media, fans and so on. I don't think Cable is ready, but he can be if he is mentored by Pete..


To me it is very hard to look at an assistant and say if they can be a HC or not. Cable did lead a team to an 8-8 so I think he would be a good HC. Just because he embraces the assistant role doesn't mean he can't completely change and take charge. I work like that myself - I have been part of many teams which I was just one of the wheels and I made sure that my end kept working and suggested improvements where I could. When I run teams I am a totally different person looking at the full picture continously not getting bogged down in the details that others need to look at.

Other people are good at leading teams but not as great when they are just one person in the big wheel and vice versa


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I would be ALL OVER Cable being our next Head Coach. After the Mora experiment, I don't know that a "Head Coach in Waiting" situation would work, but perhaps the front office could just reassure him that he'll be a front runner if he wants it. Plus, let's just make sure to pay the man a lot now.

Lastly, everyone assumes that the HC job is the most coveted. Maybe, just maybe Cable likes the spot he's in. Lots of control and influence, good pay and a lot less pressure.

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I've kind of assumed this was the case ever since Cable became the Assistant Head Coach. I don't know how we're going to retain him, though, unless there's a handshake deal somewhere in the mix.

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I think Cable would do fine as HC, he was able to succeed in Oakland when Al was still there, a rare rare situation. Most coaches have went there and died in Als last 10 years or so. For Cable to succeed at all means he dealt with the psychobabble of Al and a whinie informant on his staff as well as all the player egos and problems and still pulled out success.

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Cable gives Seattle it's toughness. But Carroll gels the team together.

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Cable is to the Seahawks what Ed Orgeron is the Trojans. And both are line coaches, albeit on opposite sides of the ball.

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I wouldn't be opposed to it if Cables still around when Pete chucks the deuces to his career.

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Nature has a way of slowing people down, Pete is a phenomenal example of energy and all, just hope he doesn't meet a wall at some point. Marv Levy was a lot like him in many ways and then we started to see him slip, it was sad really watching him erode trying to get one last shot in Buffalo.

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I'm surprised Cable didnt knock Bevell out right there on the sidelines after some of his 3rd and short calls early in the season.

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Does anyone else think the Raiders were dumb to get rid of Cable?


Let's not forget that there was turmoil in the locker room in Oakland. Tom had "cold cocked" one of his assistant coaches and there was litigation going on....it was a bad scene. We do not have all the details, but perhaps he may have not received a vote of confidence from the players.


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Nature has a way of slowing people down, Pete is a phenomenal example of energy and all, just hope he doesn't meet a wall at some point. Marv Levy was a lot like him in many ways and then we started to see him slip, it was sad really watching him erode trying to get one last shot in Buffalo.


wasn't he in his late 70's in his second stint?

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I hope this is the case.

Tom did a PHENOMONAL job in Oakland. What ever the Raiders season ending record is, add 2.5 games to TRULY gauge the coach. It's the hardest place to coach in the league, IMO. Beyond horrific. I actualyl felt sorry for that franchise while attending that 2010 game. They have 3 Lombardi's and play in an embarassment of a stadium...and everything is below arena league levels amenities and gameday vibe wise. It's a sorry, sorry place.


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I still can't erase the memories of Cable's 2010 Raiders team utterly destroying our Seahawks team in 2010. Granted, there were 10 teams that beat Seattle by multiple scores that year (!), but that loss was the most vicious of them all.

Cable actually did pretty well in Oakland by the recent standards of that franchise. The fact that he took an Al Davis team to 8-8 should be considered award worthy.

That said I really hope that Carroll stays here until he basically can't keep up with the NFL anymore. Given his gifted mind, I don't think that day is coming any time soon.


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I like Cable......I also like Kelly from Oregon and his offensive genius. The NFL is ready for such madness.

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Pete is the youngest 60-year-old ever. I just don't see him petering out anytime soon.

Nice to see an article like this, though, that DOESN'T involve Pete being "on the hot seat".

I see what you did there.

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Let's not forget that there was turmoil in the locker room in Oakland. Tom had "cold cocked" one of his assistant coaches and there was litigation going on....it was a bad scene. We do not have all the details, but perhaps he may have not received a vote of confidence from the players.


A lot of that story came out very early as I believe it happened in the preseason. The guy in question who got "cold cocked" did nothing as far as reporting this whole situation to the police until AFTER he asked Al Davis for a promotion to be quiet and didn't get it.

He was Al's self appointed stoolie that was sent to spy on Cable, and everybody and I mean everybody in the locker room fully had Cable's back. I have yet to hear a word from anybody that questioned the way he ran the team or how he handled the situation with the guy who got "cold cocked". The story I've heard as more of it came out was that the guy basically went in looking for a fight, pushed Tom to the point where they had to be separated, and then he tried to work it into a promotion. Nobody supported that guy as far as I know. I think he seriously thought he could get Tom fired and be named head coach due to his job as Al's personal spy. That scene was ugly, but not one person involved that saw the whole thing thought Tom was in the wrong.

I'm not big on punching people, but I've been goaded to the point where somebody has nearly gotten it. In a high stress situation where a guy is chirping that he's going to have your job and reveals that it's his job to spy on you and make sure you run certain plays (basically the vertical offense Al is still in love with from his grave), then I can see how things would get heated.

The firing occurred long after the incident, and the players were stunned and many spoke out saying that the firing of Cable was idiotic, and they've been proven 100% right. What happened after he got run out of town? His successor tried to renegotiate his own contract and get himself named general manager with like 3 games left in the season and he did lose the players. They felt it was disrespectful to them and that he had put himself ahead of the team. Nobody ever felt that way about Cable.

I think you need look no further than what Cable did before he was the head man in Oakland and since he came to Seattle. Has there been any stories about him punching people's lights out or being anything but great to work with? I've not heard one. In fact I've heard nothing but the opposite throughout his entire career. I'd be very inclined to take his side in the whole incident.

I have a friend here in Utah who has season tickets and sits in that crazy section of Raiders fans (blanking on their name). He has flown out for games every week for probably 20 years and he is really connected to lots of people in the organization. When it all happened I asked what he thought, and he gave me the answer that the guy who got punch was looking for trouble and a promotion. Then when Cable left he was so pissed it made me sad for him. Then when the Hawks hired Cable he congratulated me on our team getting such a spectacular coach and he said he's going to vote for the Seahawks to win now just to see Cable do well and prove the idiots in the front office in Oakland wrong. He was pretty adamant, as were all of his cohorts.

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For anyone who didn't know, the guy who Cable punched is a POS

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/08/former-nfl-coach-arrested-for-smashing-beer-bottle-on-man/1#.UMzzZW_AfUI
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Wow, I don't like that guy's face. Looks like the dickhead from the "wedding singer".

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I have a friend here in Utah who has season tickets and sits in that crazy section of Raiders fans (blanking on their name). He has flown out for games every week for probably 20 years and he is really connected to lots of people in the organization. When it all happened I asked what he thought, and he gave me the answer that the guy who got punch was looking for trouble and a promotion. Then when Cable left he was so pissed it made me sad for him. Then when the Hawks hired Cable he congratulated me on our team getting such a spectacular coach and he said he's going to vote for the Seahawks to win now just to see Cable do well and prove the idiots in the front office in Oakland wrong. He was pretty adamant, as were all of his cohorts.

Thanks for the "inside" information on the assault of Mr. Hanson. I was just going by what the newspapers were reporting. They are not the most reliable sources....as you know. Nor do I have inside information whether or not Tom Cable would be a great Head Coach. It seems to me that as long a Pete can win here in Seattle, he and John can keep their jobs for a "long time". Tom might well receive offers from other clubs to be their HC in the near future.


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I have lots of Ray-Duh fan friends and they were livid to a man when Cable got fired. They all thought he had the team moving in the right direction.

My brother in law called me 3 days later cursing me. At that point I hadn't heard we had hired Cable. When he told me I laughed like hell which got me even more sworn at.

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