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(Edit Myers Cut) Janikowski vs Meyers
Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:30 am
  • It will be interesting to see what happens with the placekicker competition. Although Janikowski has been signed to decent money Jason Meyers is a pretty competent kicker in his ownright and is MUCH younger. Based on the $ i expect Jans to get the job but if "always compete" is the true montra once again then it could get interesting.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:17 am
  • Sebastian is signed for bigger money and has more experience. The downside is he is older (more prone to injury) and he's a left footed kicker so needs to build trust with his holder. Remember most holders are right handed so when holding for a left-footed kicker your right hand is closer to his foot as he approaches the ball.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:35 am
  • The competition will decide what the team does. Somehow though I suspect that Janikowski is ahead there but only b/c of his experience. He does have guaranteed money and has had a long and very consistent career to now which may also boost his chances and he has never been the head case that our last season’s train wreck kicker was, wide left, wide right. Myers will take the battle down to the end I suspect, but will come up short.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:46 am
  • Who cares if Sebastian is over 40. As long as he’s productive, that’s all that is needed. Vinatieri is 45 years old and is still kicking strong.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:55 am
  • Yep, it's not his age, but coming off injuries that concerns me more than anything.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:57 pm
  • Aros wrote:Yep, it's not his age, but coming off injuries that concerns me more than anything.


    But wasn't he healthy at the beginning of last year, and Oakland just decided to go with the young guy?
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:08 pm
  • seabowl wrote:Although Janikowski has been signed to decent money Jason Meyers is a pretty competent kicker in his ownright and is MUCH younger. Based on the $ i expect Jans to get the job but if "always compete" is the true montra once again then it could get interesting.


    As far as the money is concerned, remember that Matt Flynn was signed for 15 million dollars and got beat out by RW who was signed to $830,000 and some change (could be wrong on that figure), so the money doesn't necessarily mean that the job is a lock.
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Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:38 am
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:49 am
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    That's welcomed news :2thumbs: ......
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:20 am
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:05 am
  • Sea Bass clearly still has a very strong leg. He looked hilarious in his jersey too. :lol:
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:30 pm
  • They can't count on Sebas to make a tackle on a kickoff. Probably too slow to even funnel a returner into the pursuit guys either. Having a decent athlete at the position may only matter 3 or 4 times a year, but it does matter.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:33 pm
  • I'm not even sort of worried, he's going to be a touchback machine.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:34 pm
  • Its a win win if both are good. Just don't suck like Blair Walsh and have some Hauscka reliability that we had before his final season.

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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:44 pm
  • Sea Bass looks like he just got off the Couch or came out of the stands to attempt the Kick for Charity contests they have everywhere. Seeing him does not scream athlete, sort of like Tom Dempsey was as a kicker.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:15 pm
  • Jimjones0384 wrote:
    Aros wrote:Yep, it's not his age, but coming off injuries that concerns me more than anything.


    But wasn't he healthy at the beginning of last year, and Oakland just decided to go with the young guy?


    No. He was placed on IR at the beginning of the season with a herniated disc in his back which caused him to miss the whole season. He made the final 53 man roster out of camp and was expected to be their kicker, but was placed on IR the day before the 1st regular season game.

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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:49 pm
  • Babe Ruth was one of the best baseball players of all time, he had a huge gut.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:46 pm
  • So anyone else thinking that we'll be going into the season with Janikowski and Dickson? I'd be cool with that.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:16 am
  • Seahawk_Dan wrote:So anyone else thinking that we'll be going into the season with Janikowski and Dickson? I'd be cool with that.


    Biggest lock of the preseason next to Russ beating out Austin Davis :lol:

    I don't like Janikowski at all, but he will win the job for his kickoffs alone. Buckle up for another fun ride at kicker.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:46 am
  • im definitely not in on Myers.........His short resume is awful and inconsistent.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:28 pm
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    Seahawk_Dan wrote:So anyone else thinking that we'll be going into the season with Janikowski and Dickson? I'd be cool with that.


    Biggest lock of the preseason next to Russ beating out Austin Davis :lol:

    I don't like Janikowski at all, but he will win the job for his kickoffs alone. Buckle up for another fun ride at kicker.


    As long as he doesn't turn into Blair Walsh, then its all good.
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:57 pm
  • I think he ate Blair Walsh...
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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:13 pm
  • https://q13fox.com/2018/08/20/did-sebas ... mpetition/

    Hours after punter Jon Ryan tweeted a goodbye to Seahawks fans, the team announced it had cut both him and kicker Jason Myers.

    Those decisions leave fifth-round draft pick Michael Dickson as the only punter on the roster, and Sebastian Janikowski as the only kicker.
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  • Can Dickson kick FG's if Seabass gets hurt in game?
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  • IndyHawk wrote:Can Dickson kick FG's if Seabass gets hurt in game?


    Apparently he's got a good drop kick so he just might be the man in case of SeaBass injuries.
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  • Follow the money. Dickson saves money over Ryan, and outplayed him in two games.

    Janikowski got the big contract, so bye bye rookie.

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Re: Janikowski vs Meyers
Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:17 pm
  • chrispy wrote:I think he ate Blair Walsh...

    I’m fine with that!
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  • sutz wrote:Follow the money. Dickson saves money over Ryan, and outplayed him in two games.

    Janikowski got the big contract, so bye bye rookie.

    :229031_shrug:

    Janikowski got $1.615M in a one-year contract... not that much.
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  • onanygivensunday wrote:
    sutz wrote:Follow the money. Dickson saves money over Ryan, and outplayed him in two games.

    Janikowski got the big contract, so bye bye rookie.

    :229031_shrug:

    Janikowski got $1.615M in a one-year contract... not that much.

    Not bad for a kicker coming off an injury, though. Still a lot more than the rook was going to get.
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Re: (Edit Myers Cut) Janikowski vs Meyers
Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:18 pm
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Re: (Edit Myers Cut) Janikowski vs Myers
Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:33 pm
  • I'll take Myers thank you.
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  • Why anybody would want Myers on the team is puzzling to me.... he couldn’t beat out Seabass when given the opportunity. What makes anyone think he would have done better? I surely don’t.
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:Why anybody would want Myers on the team is puzzling to me.... he couldn’t beat out Seabass when given the opportunity. What makes anyone think he would have done better? I surely don’t.


    Why??? He has an 81% success rate on fg 's over his career (same as Janikowski although many less years), strong leg, and is 27 years old vs 40. Is that enough for you?
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  • seabowl wrote:
    hawkfan68 wrote:Why anybody would want Myers on the team is puzzling to me.... he couldn’t beat out Seabass when given the opportunity. What makes anyone think he would have done better? I surely don’t.


    Why??? He has an 81% success rate on fg 's over his career (same as Janikowski although many less years), strong leg, and is 27 years old vs 40. Is that enough for you?


    Nope. Age is a meaningless number for a kicker. Vinatieri is older than Janikowski and is still one of the best kickers, if not the best, in the league. The fact is that Myers couldn't beat out Sebastian J. when he had the opportunity. He didn't show enough to the coaches to warrant keeping him on the team. So again, no I don't believe Myers would have been better.
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:
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    hawkfan68 wrote:Why anybody would want Myers on the team is puzzling to me.... he couldn’t beat out Seabass when given the opportunity. What makes anyone think he would have done better? I surely don’t.


    Why??? He has an 81% success rate on fg 's over his career (same as Janikowski although many less years), strong leg, and is 27 years old vs 40. Is that enough for you?


    Nope. Age is a meaningless number for a kicker. Vinatieri is older than Janikowski and is still one of the best kickers, if not the best, in the league. The fact is that Myers couldn't beat out Sebastian J. when he had the opportunity. He didn't show enough to the coaches to warrant keeping him on the team. So again, no I don't believe Myers would have been better.


    Fact, Janikowski missed TWO EXTRA POINTS in the last preseason game and now TWO FG'S yesterday. Something is not right with him. Whether it's age or injury he's just not very good right now. That is why iI'd want Myers.
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  • seabowl wrote:
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    hawkfan68 wrote:Why anybody would want Myers on the team is puzzling to me.... he couldn’t beat out Seabass when given the opportunity. What makes anyone think he would have done better? I surely don’t.


    Why??? He has an 81% success rate on fg 's over his career (same as Janikowski although many less years), strong leg, and is 27 years old vs 40. Is that enough for you?


    Nope. Age is a meaningless number for a kicker. Vinatieri is older than Janikowski and is still one of the best kickers, if not the best, in the league. The fact is that Myers couldn't beat out Sebastian J. when he had the opportunity. He didn't show enough to the coaches to warrant keeping him on the team. So again, no I don't believe Myers would have been better.


    Fact, Janikowski missed TWO EXTRA POINTS in the last preseason game and now TWO FG'S yesterday. Something is not right with him. Whether it's age or injury he's just not very good right now. That is why iI'd want Myers.


    I'm not denying that there is a problem. I just don't believe that Myers is the solution. Besides, Myers is unavailable as he's still listed on the NY Jets roster - https://www.newyorkjets.com/team/players-roster/. Bring Dan Bailey in if he's still available. Other than Bailey, there are not many other kickers that would be an upgrade over Sebastian J. Most decent kickers have a team. The big mistake was made last year when they decided not to re-sign Hauschka.
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