You should have killed Seattle while you could, NFL

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You should have killed the Seattle Seahawks while you could, NFL.

The Seahawks on Oct. 18 were defeated at home by the Carolina Panthers after a miraculous comeback from Cam Newton and the Cats. The last-minute loss dropped the Seahawks to 2-4 and the defending NFC champs were reeling.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2015/12/nfl-week-15-pow ... te-charge/


Thats funny.
 

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Redskins Giants and the other one....flip a coin. Hilarious.
 

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DynoHawk":f6ayou9j said:
You should have killed the Seattle Seahawks while you could, NFL.

The Seahawks on Oct. 18 were defeated at home by the Carolina Panthers after a miraculous comeback from Cam Newton and the Cats. The last-minute loss dropped the Seahawks to 2-4 and the defending NFC champs were reeling.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2015/12/nfl-week-15-pow ... te-charge/


Thats funny.

What's funny is seeing the media back on the Seahawks bandwagon after hopping off for the first half of the season. Seattle wins over Pittsburgh, Minnesota and Baltimore now have every other NFL story "the Seahawks are a Super Bowl favorite! OMG!"...

The key phrase in the article you linked is "The Seahawks struggled with a front-loaded schedule, but they’re 6-1 since that Carolina loss, and they’re doing things in a different manner than we’ve become accustomed to seeing."

Lets take a closer look...

A 20-3 win over a mediocre SF team
An ugly 13-12 road win over a mediocre Dallas team led by some 4th string QB
A 39-32 loss at home to Arizona
A 29-13 win over a mediocre SF team
A 39-30 win over a Pittsburgh team that torched the D for 500 yards
A 38-7 road win over a Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings team
A 35-6 win over a Baltimore team that had half their starters on IR

The Pittsburgh game aside, are a bunch of wins over mediocre (you can add the Bears and Lions to this list) to average competition supposed to signal to the rest of the NFL that the Seahawks are going to make a 3rd straight Super Bowl? A glance at the schedule reveals wins over mediocre to average teams... with losses to teams that are on the upper end of the standings (Packers, Bengals, Panthers, Cardinals)...

You are what your record says you are?
 

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And given all of that, we'd likely be favored against the Cards right now on a neutral field.
 

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AZ_fan":2eznqlif said:
DynoHawk":2eznqlif said:
A 38-7 road win over a Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings team
How is the Minnesota game a "Mediocre" win? The defense blanked them (only scored on STs) and the Seahawks offense dropped dimes all day

All against a wildcard playoff team.
 

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AZ_fan":1m7gaut9 said:
DynoHawk":1m7gaut9 said:
You should have killed the Seattle Seahawks while you could, NFL.

The Seahawks on Oct. 18 were defeated at home by the Carolina Panthers after a miraculous comeback from Cam Newton and the Cats. The last-minute loss dropped the Seahawks to 2-4 and the defending NFC champs were reeling.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2015/12/nfl-week-15-pow ... te-charge/


Thats funny.

What's funny is seeing the media back on the Seahawks bandwagon after hopping off for the first half of the season. Seattle wins over Pittsburgh, Minnesota and Baltimore now have every other NFL story "the Seahawks are a Super Bowl favorite! OMG!"...

The key phrase in the article you linked is "The Seahawks struggled with a front-loaded schedule, but they’re 6-1 since that Carolina loss, and they’re doing things in a different manner than we’ve become accustomed to seeing."

Lets take a closer look...

A 20-3 win over a mediocre SF team
An ugly 13-12 road win over a mediocre Dallas team led by some 4th string QB
A 39-32 loss at home to Arizona
A 29-13 win over a mediocre SF team
A 39-30 win over a Pittsburgh team that torched the D for 500 yards
A 38-7 road win over a Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings team
A 35-6 win over a Baltimore team that had half their starters on IR

The Pittsburgh game aside, are a bunch of wins over mediocre (you can add the Bears and Lions to this list) to average competition supposed to signal to the rest of the NFL that the Seahawks are going to make a 3rd straight Super Bowl? A glance at the schedule reveals wins over mediocre to average teams... with losses to teams that are on the upper end of the standings (Packers, Bengals, Panthers, Cardinals)...

You are what your record says you are?

You can only play the teams on your schedule.

Panthers have only beaten 3 winning teams (GB, AZ, SEA)
AZ has only beaten 2 winning teams.
Seattle has only beaten 2 winning teams.

But:
Carolina’s opponents combined 19 games under .500
AZ opponent’s combined 23 games under .500
Sea opponents combined 9 over .500

It's a mediocre year for the NFL, only a few good teams, 6 "elite" ones and the rest are mediocre. The winning teams this year tend to only lose to other winning teams and are crushing the weak ones. Very few upsets so far, parity indeed Mr. Goodell.
 

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AZ_fan":1cdj87te said:
DynoHawk":1cdj87te said:
You should have killed the Seattle Seahawks while you could, NFL.

The Seahawks on Oct. 18 were defeated at home by the Carolina Panthers after a miraculous comeback from Cam Newton and the Cats. The last-minute loss dropped the Seahawks to 2-4 and the defending NFC champs were reeling.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2015/12/nfl-week-15-pow ... te-charge/


Thats funny.

What's funny is seeing the media back on the Seahawks bandwagon after hopping off for the first half of the season. Seattle wins over Pittsburgh, Minnesota and Baltimore now have every other NFL story "the Seahawks are a Super Bowl favorite! OMG!"...

The key phrase in the article you linked is "The Seahawks struggled with a front-loaded schedule, but they’re 6-1 since that Carolina loss, and they’re doing things in a different manner than we’ve become accustomed to seeing."

Lets take a closer look...

A 20-3 win over a mediocre SF team
An ugly 13-12 road win over a mediocre Dallas team led by some 4th string QB
A 39-32 loss at home to Arizona
A 29-13 win over a mediocre SF team
A 39-30 win over a Pittsburgh team that torched the D for 500 yards
A 38-7 road win over a Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings team
A 35-6 win over a Baltimore team that had half their starters on IR

The Pittsburgh game aside, are a bunch of wins over mediocre (you can add the Bears and Lions to this list) to average competition supposed to signal to the rest of the NFL that the Seahawks are going to make a 3rd straight Super Bowl? A glance at the schedule reveals wins over mediocre to average teams... with losses to teams that are on the upper end of the standings (Packers, Bengals, Panthers, Cardinals)...

You are what your record says you are?

So how come you guys struggled so hard again a "Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings team" in your own house?
 

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Geologic":2tdpu6ij said:
AZ_fan":2tdpu6ij said:
DynoHawk":2tdpu6ij said:
A 38-7 road win over a Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings team
How is the Minnesota game a "Mediocre" win? The defense blanked them (only scored on STs) and the Seahawks offense dropped dimes all day

All against a wildcard playoff team.

...that nearly beat the Cards on the road.
 

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I thought only a Niners fan would be so stupid as to ridicule a road win victory like we had against the Vikes after his team squeaked by Minnesota just last week AT HOME.

Guess I was wrong.
 

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entropyrulesall":32rijeym said:
You can only play the teams on your schedule.

Panthers have only beaten 3 winning teams (GB, AZ, SEA)
AZ has only beaten 2 winning teams.
Seattle has only beaten 2 winning teams.

It's a mediocre year for the NFL, only a few good teams, 6 "elite" ones and the rest are mediocre. The winning teams this year tend to only lose to other winning teams and are crushing the weak ones. Very few upsets so far, parity indeed Mr. Goodwill.


Very well put. There are currently only 11 teams with a +.500 record. If you are one of those teams, then you've probably played the majority of -.500 teams.
 

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Aren't there AZ fan forums out there somewhere or is this the only place they think their opinion is wanted? :tardssmall:
 

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Geologic":2srz0aka said:
AZ_fan":2srz0aka said:
DynoHawk":2srz0aka said:
A 38-7 road win over a Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings team
How is the Minnesota game a "Mediocre" win? The defense blanked them (only scored on STs) and the Seahawks offense dropped dimes all day

All against a wildcard playoff team.

I said a bunch of mediocre to average wins and the Minnesota game was no doubt a quality road win... when I said "win over a Teddy Bridgewater led team" that was my way of saying they are average.

I think everyone would agree the 8-3 Vikings were nowhere near as good as their record.

To sum it up...

I see the losses to the upper tier (according to record) opponents (Packers, Bengals, Panthers, Cardinals with a loss to the Rams thrown in)

wins over the average opponents (Minnesota Pittsburgh with the Steelers being the much better of the two)

The remaining wins over teams that can be considered mediocre... (Chicago, Detroit, SF, Dallas, SF, Baltimore although it's not the Ravens fault they have been destroyed by injuries)

So yeah... if Seattle was coming off a 3 game run having blown out the Panthers, Bengals, Packers... whoever... then I'd most definitely agree with everything I'm reading about how the rest of the NFC better look out for Seattle.

Unfortunately though I just don't see what all the hype is about. Seattle is playing much better there is no doubt about that but they are still 8-5 looking at 3 road games.

People can say Carolina is 13-0 because of a weak schedule... but haven't they won all their games? Seattle had a tough first half schedule... and lost every game that featured a tough opponent.

No doubt we will continue to hear more about the Seattle NFC 3peat as the media will continue to pile on the Seattle bandwagon in the coming weeks after what should be wins over Cleveland and St. Louis (although I am looking forward to seeing Gurley in action in Seattle... he's a beast),,,

Is anyone else ready for the playoffs?
 

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AZ_fan":249c431v said:
What's funny is seeing the media back on the Seahawks bandwagon after hopping off for the first half of the season. Seattle wins over Pittsburgh, Minnesota and Baltimore now have every other NFL story "the Seahawks are a Super Bowl favorite! OMG!"...

The key phrase in the article you linked is "The Seahawks struggled with a front-loaded schedule, but they’re 6-1 since that Carolina loss, and they’re doing things in a different manner than we’ve become accustomed to seeing."

Lets take a closer look...

A 20-3 win over a mediocre SF team
An ugly 13-12 road win over a mediocre Dallas team led by some 4th string QB
A 39-32 loss at home to Arizona
A 29-13 win over a mediocre SF team
A 39-30 win over a Pittsburgh team that torched the D for 500 yards
A 38-7 road win over a Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings team
A 35-6 win over a Baltimore team that had half their starters on IR

The Pittsburgh game aside, are a bunch of wins over mediocre (you can add the Bears and Lions to this list) to average competition supposed to signal to the rest of the NFL that the Seahawks are going to make a 3rd straight Super Bowl? A glance at the schedule reveals wins over mediocre to average teams... with losses to teams that are on the upper end of the standings (Packers, Bengals, Panthers, Cardinals)...

You are what your record says you are?

Granted, had we not won a SB in historic fashion and come within one OC brain-fart away from going back-to-back, then the roll we are on right now might not be viewed nationally as "rounding into SB form". But the fact is we have done those things so we get that respect. Your record against those same teams is less impressive, though comparable, so if the rolls were reversed the Cards would likely be getting the SB love right now. But...the rolls aren't reversed, so you don't get the love.

We are what our pedigree says we are.
 

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entropyrulesall":3v6d37h5 said:
It's a mediocre year for the NFL, only a few good teams, 6 "elite" ones and the rest are mediocre. The winning teams this year tend to only lose to other winning teams and are crushing the weak ones. Very few upsets so far, parity indeed Mr. Goodwill.

I agree.

Cartire":3v6d37h5 said:
So how come you guys struggled so hard again a "Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings team" in your own house?

Probably the same reason you guys should have lost to the Lions at your house.

Any given Sunday...

Trenchbroom":3v6d37h5 said:
I thought only a Niners fan would be so stupid as to ridicule a road win victory like we had against the Vikes after his team squeaked by Minnesota just last week AT HOME.

Guess I was wrong.

Heh... there was no ridicule there. I said it was a quality road win... but a bit premature to announce to the world the Seahawks are back after wins over Minnesota and Baltimore.

JAGHAWK":3v6d37h5 said:
Aren't there AZ fan forums out there somewhere or is this the only place they think their opinion is wanted? :tardssmall:

Yeah... but when it comes to discussions over there the few Seattle fans that show up just aren't very bright. It makes for boring conversation.
 

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Granted, had we not won a SB in historic fashion and come within one OC brain-fart away from going back-to-back, then the roll we are on right now might not be viewed nationally as "rounding into SB form". But the fact is we have done those things so we get that respect. Your record against those same teams is less impressive, though comparable, so if the rolls were reversed the Cards would likely be getting the SB love right now. But...the rolls aren't reversed, so you don't get the love.

We are what our pedigree says we are.

No doubt... to be the best you gotta beat the best. I get all that.

I'm just puzzled at how all we heard for 2 months was how the OL sucked.. Wilson was regressing... fire Bevell... etc... etc... and now after 3 wins over average to mediocre competition with 2 more wins coming up over the same in Cleveland and St. Louis all we are hearing about is the Seahawks are gonna book their ticket to Santa Clara...

The bandwagon emptied... and now it's full again.
 

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AZ_fan":edu9rqg6 said:
bigDhawk":edu9rqg6 said:
Granted, had we not won a SB in historic fashion and come within one OC brain-fart away from going back-to-back, then the roll we are on right now might not be viewed nationally as "rounding into SB form". But the fact is we have done those things so we get that respect. Your record against those same teams is less impressive, though comparable, so if the rolls were reversed the Cards would likely be getting the SB love right now. But...the rolls aren't reversed, so you don't get the love.

We are what our pedigree says we are.

No doubt... to be the best you gotta beat the best. I get all that.

I'm just puzzled at how all we heard for 2 months was how the OL sucked.. Wilson was regressing... fire Bevell... etc... etc... and now after 3 wins over average to mediocre competition with 2 more wins coming up over the same in Cleveland and St. Louis all we are hearing about is the Seahawks are gonna book their ticket to Santa Clara...

The bandwagon emptied... and now it's full again.

How does criticizing our team for poor play = bandwagon emptying?

If anything it shows we're real fans because we're here through thick and thin worrying about our team not performing to their talent and potential. You wouldn't read or hear at all from bandwagon fans, cause they'd be gone.
 

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AZ_fan":1zstwbw8 said:
DynoHawk":1zstwbw8 said:
You should have killed the Seattle Seahawks while you could, NFL.

The Seahawks on Oct. 18 were defeated at home by the Carolina Panthers after a miraculous comeback from Cam Newton and the Cats. The last-minute loss dropped the Seahawks to 2-4 and the defending NFC champs were reeling.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2015/12/nfl-week-15-pow ... te-charge/


Thats funny.

What's funny is seeing the media back on the Seahawks bandwagon after hopping off for the first half of the season. Seattle wins over Pittsburgh, Minnesota and Baltimore now have every other NFL story "the Seahawks are a Super Bowl favorite! OMG!"...

The key phrase in the article you linked is "The Seahawks struggled with a front-loaded schedule, but they’re 6-1 since that Carolina loss, and they’re doing things in a different manner than we’ve become accustomed to seeing."

Lets take a closer look...

A 20-3 win over a mediocre SF team
An ugly 13-12 road win over a mediocre Dallas team led by some 4th string QB
A 39-32 loss at home to Arizona
A 29-13 win over a mediocre SF team
A 39-30 win over a Pittsburgh team that torched the D for 500 yards
A 38-7 road win over a Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings team
A 35-6 win over a Baltimore team that had half their starters on IR

The Pittsburgh game aside, are a bunch of wins over mediocre (you can add the Bears and Lions to this list) to average competition supposed to signal to the rest of the NFL that the Seahawks are going to make a 3rd straight Super Bowl? A glance at the schedule reveals wins over mediocre to average teams... with losses to teams that are on the upper end of the standings (Packers, Bengals, Panthers, Cardinals)...

You are what your record says you are?

Give credit where credit is due. It's tough enough to get a win on any given Sunday, let alone obliterating teams on the road. How was your team against the so called average Vikings at home? Yep, the same team we destroyed on the road. Face it, we're getting hot at the right time so look out!!!
 

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AZ_fan":2sttm4s2 said:
Geologic":2sttm4s2 said:
AZ_fan":2sttm4s2 said:
DynoHawk":2sttm4s2 said:
A 38-7 road win over a Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings team
How is the Minnesota game a "Mediocre" win? The defense blanked them (only scored on STs) and the Seahawks offense dropped dimes all day

All against a wildcard playoff team.

I said a bunch of mediocre to average wins and the Minnesota game was no doubt a quality road win... when I said "win over a Teddy Bridgewater led team" that was my way of saying they are average.

I think everyone would agree the 8-3 Vikings were nowhere near as good as their record.

To sum it up...

I see the losses to the upper tier (according to record) opponents (Packers, Bengals, Panthers, Cardinals with a loss to the Rams thrown in)

wins over the average opponents (Minnesota Pittsburgh with the Steelers being the much better of the two)

The remaining wins over teams that can be considered mediocre... (Chicago, Detroit, SF, Dallas, SF, Baltimore although it's not the Ravens fault they have been destroyed by injuries)

So yeah... if Seattle was coming off a 3 game run having blown out the Panthers, Bengals, Packers... whoever... then I'd most definitely agree with everything I'm reading about how the rest of the NFC better look out for Seattle.

Unfortunately though I just don't see what all the hype is about. Seattle is playing much better there is no doubt about that but they are still 8-5 looking at 3 road games.

People can say Carolina is 13-0 because of a weak schedule... but haven't they won all their games? Seattle had a tough first half schedule... and lost every game that featured a tough opponent.

No doubt we will continue to hear more about the Seattle NFC 3peat as the media will continue to pile on the Seattle bandwagon in the coming weeks after what should be wins over Cleveland and St. Louis (although I am looking forward to seeing Gurley in action in Seattle... he's a beast),,,

Is anyone else ready for the playoffs?

What happened in the early part of this season is hardly relevant any longer. Kam's back, the O-Line is playing light-years better, Russ has significantly improved his pocket passing game, and all of this has been going down while Marshawn actually gets a chance to heal up for once, rather than trying to gut it out all year long. Burnt Toast (Cary Williams) was shown the door, and since that change was made Seattle is playing much better in the secondary. Shead was an upgrade not only to his position, but to the continuity of the secondary, and (IMO, and others') they no longer need to try and pick up his slack, which resulted in a compounded problem in the secondary for Seattle. Since that change, they are playing like the LOB of the past. Watch the film before you even try to refute that.

Also, make no mistake about it, Seattle is primed to finish up the regular season strong and go into the playoffs with a pretty fresh Beast Mode hungry for being Beast Mode and lighting people up in January. You seem to know football well, and them boys aren't as fresh this late in the year body-wise, and playing against a Lynch with an advantage (in terms of freshness) should scare people -- and that part of things is not even in the narrative you are getting all upset about. They are mentioning that Seattle played brilliantly on the road though, which you have eluded to, although attempted to discount in some way that was a fallacy.

Yeah, I am ready for the playoffs to get going. Hopefully we see y'all in the NFCCG so we can punch your boys in the mouth and remind you that: To be the man, you have to beat the man. Two years in a row, we are the man in the NFC. I fully expect that to continue.
 

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I am always puzzled why fans of division rivals hang out on the enemy's forum. Not that there's anything wrong with it...And truth be told we have some resident opponent fans who are quite gracious and offer something to the community.

But these types of threads "Let me come to your house and tell you why it's not that impressive what you have done" is quite boorish and immature.

Carry on.
 
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