What would it take for Wilson to win MVP?

[hawksfansinceday1]

Mahomes has to face plant.

He is the face of the new NFL and will be for the next 15 years. As long as he puts up deserving numbers, he will be tough for anyone to beat.

This, plus Russ ' performance will not be able to tail off like the last time there was conversation about him winning the award.

 

[Mistashoesta]

Not sure. I will say his though. I’d be happy with Mahomes winning it this year if Russell was able to actually play against and beat Mahomes in this years Superb Owl.

 

[EverydayImRusselin]

There is no shame in being second to Mahomes. Russ is playing out of his mind this year, which equates to what Mahomes has shown for all 21 games of his career. For Russ to win he would need to end up with the #1 seed, something like 4,500 yds a 40/5 TD/INT ratio and a 120 QBR, while Mahomes falls off his normal play.

 

[toffee]

Two things must happen:

Russ maintain his high level of performance.
His rivals experience a few bad games.




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[12AngryHawks]

If Seattle had a scheme like KC's or LAR's, where receivers get open so often, this wouldn't be a question. From a strictly QB standpoint, RW is better than Mahomes.

Nothing against Mahomes, I like his talent, and his character, but his job comes easier to him than Wilson's.

 

[TreeRon]

A near perfect passer rating and a Super Bowl win. Oh, and he'd have to wear lifts in his cleats.

Voting happens at the end of the regular season. Winning the Super Bowl would be irrelevant.

Thanks, my error.

I don't think he can win it then. Every talking head on TV has anointed Mahomes the winner as long as the earth still spins. As long as they say it, every "fan" that watches these shows will parrot what they say.

 

[hgwellz12]

If Seattle had a scheme like KC's or LAR's, where receivers get open so often, this wouldn't be a question. From a strictly QB standpoint, RW is better than Mahomes.

Nothing against Mahomes, I like his talent, and his character, but his job comes easier to him than Wilson's.

Exactly THIS^

The term MOST VALUABLE is in regards to the team that the player is on. Russell Wilson is unequivocally the most valuable part of the Seattle Seahawks success. Without RW, we're probably still looking for our first win of the season.

 

[DomeHawk]

Who cares? It's a team game.

 

[acer1240]

Who cares? It's a team game.

It's still a valid question. Thanks for the helpful insight on this topic.

 

[Uncle Si]

Seattle would have to move south by at least 500 miles and east by at least 1000 miles.

Is that where they were when Alexander won it?

Wilson needs to lead the NFL in TDs and QBR. Have the team.in the playoffs with a bye. Then it's 50-50

 

[John63]

Who cares? It's a team game.

It's still a valid question. Thanks for the helpful insight on this topic.

The bigger question is would he say that if it was Carson or Wagner? Fyi some of us cares as it would be nice for one of our players to be recognized.

 

[ballard1951]

MVP in a Super Bowl win. But I guess they would rather pick a random Seahawks player with a pick or two.

 

[McGruff]

Play in Dallas, L. A market or New York, but they will give him the Mr. Congeniality award.

I know you love to whine about east coast bias, and sometimes it works that way.

But this isnt one of them.

Wilson will come in 2nd to Mahomes because Mahomes is just flat out better.

 

[McGruff]

Russell could beat Mahomes in completion percentage, touchdowns, and overall efficiency. But he won’t beat Mahomes in yards, which, stupidly many fans and media seem to value.

The media is too deep into the Mahomes bandwagon to back off now ukeface: . It won’t matter that:

A) Mahomes has never had to play behind a bad O-line
B) Mahomes would not perform as well under Schotty as he is under Andy Reid
C) The Chiefs were 4-0 and winning their division before Mahomes became the starter
D) The Chiefs have a better team top to bottom than the Seahawks. Arguably better defense, better O-line, better scheme, better weapons


The media will overlook all of that, and even if Wilson and Mahomes are neck and neck in TD passes, Mahomes will win it. People struggle to distinguish between a great talent and a great QB. Mahomes is a great talent, and may evolve into even more greatness. But Russell, and even Tom Brady are better QUARTERBACKS. Better at reading defenses, arguably more accurate, and have shown that they can carry a team no matter the circumstance

B is speculation, C is not true.

 

[DomeHawk]

Who cares? It's a team game.

It's still a valid question. Thanks for the helpful insight on this topic.

At this point in the season it's a moot point.

 

[John63]

Play in Dallas, L. A market or New York, but they will give him the Mr. Congeniality award.

I know you love to whine about east coast bias, and sometimes it works that way.

But this isnt one of them.

Wilson will come in 2nd to Mahomes because Mahomes is just flat out better.

Lol no because he has much better talent around him and a pass first coach. Those are facts yours is an opinion.

 

[BubbaGump]

Civilization as we know it to collapse! Plain and simple.

 

[Scorpion05]

Russell could beat Mahomes in completion percentage, touchdowns, and overall efficiency. But he won’t beat Mahomes in yards, which, stupidly many fans and media seem to value.

The media is too deep into the Mahomes bandwagon to back off now ukeface: . It won’t matter that:

A) Mahomes has never had to play behind a bad O-line
B) Mahomes would not perform as well under Schotty as he is under Andy Reid
C) The Chiefs were 4-0 and winning their division before Mahomes became the starter
D) The Chiefs have a better team top to bottom than the Seahawks. Arguably better defense, better O-line, better scheme, better weapons


The media will overlook all of that, and even if Wilson and Mahomes are neck and neck in TD passes, Mahomes will win it. People struggle to distinguish between a great talent and a great QB. Mahomes is a great talent, and may evolve into even more greatness. But Russell, and even Tom Brady are better QUARTERBACKS. Better at reading defenses, arguably more accurate, and have shown that they can carry a team no matter the circumstance

B is speculation, C is not true.

B is an educated guess. Unless you’re going to also argue Joe Montana would perform as well under Schotty as he would under Bill Walsh? One of the greatest offensive minds...ever? Are you going to argue that defensive coordinators don’t matter too?

Andy Reid’s schemes have objectively increased the stats of every QB in that system. Anyone watching film of that offense can see how absolutely ingenious his schemes are.

And C is accurate. The Chiefs started 5-0 in 2017 with Alex Smith, and won the division. They won it in 2016 too, and finished 11-5 in 2015. Mahomes absolutely did NOT inherit a bad team. And Andy Reid’s teams have always been built around offense.

Even for all of the dismissiveness of Russ inheriting the LOB, he also never inherited a team built around offense to bolster him as a QB

 

[AKNFidel]

Seattle would have to move south by at least 500 miles and east by at least 1000 miles.[/quote

Denver?


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[chris98251]

Play in Dallas, L. A market or New York, but they will give him the Mr. Congeniality award.

I know you love to whine about east coast bias, and sometimes it works that way.

But this isnt one of them.

Wilson will come in 2nd to Mahomes because Mahomes is just flat out better.

Not Even close,McNabb looked great in Reids system also, then Reid got fired and McNabb became a guy.

Mahomes is a good QB, better then McNabb better then Smith who also looked all world in that system, I would love to see how Mahomes deals with adversity, pressure and win in a conservive offense.