austinslater25":3iwqzh8n said:
Fair enough.
David what is your take? If I missed it just say so and I'll look back through the thread. Do you consider him an above average OC? A great OC? I'm not saying this in a sarcastic tone, curious. I think he's middle of the pack. He has done some really good things with the read option and helping with the running game but I really struggle with his initial game plans, predictability at times and calls in the red zone.
Let me start with this: I think the last call in the last SB was his mistake. Not the decision to pass, which was Carroll's fault, but the call itself. Not a completely bone-headed or unforgivable mistake, as some would claim, but I wish he called something else that I know is in their playbook. But that's my Monday Morning QB. If it worked, which it had a reasonable chance of doing, I wouldn't care.
Now: to me, given Seattle's unique system of control, it is difficult to quantify what is a good and bad OC. This is Pete's show, and he's so confident in what he's doing fundamentally that he'll let a couple party kids (Sark and Kiffin) call plays for him in college. Maybe we're better with someone else; maybe we're worse. I don't know. All I know is that the results thus far have been good.
To try to isolate what's coming from Bevell, Carroll, Cable, or Wilson is pretty difficult, if not impossible. That's why I find it hard to dealing with the witch-hunt for a single scapegoat that occurs after every game, every play. I've watched videos of the 2009 Vikings. That looks like a different team -- similar concepts, but they utilized the middle of the field, threw ballsy passes to Sidney Rice and made Percy Harvin look like a real receiver. Maybe that was all Favre, but aren't we claiming our guy is elite too? Whose fault is it then if we put in the same skill players and the same playcaller, but for some reason it looks different? The fact is that we different system going here, and that is accounted for by QB execution, OL execution, HC philosophy, GM decisions, and inputs from any number of assistant coaches. To try to pin every negative on one guy, especially when our offense has actually be highly successful by all logical metrics, is just missing the boat to me. There are more interesting discussions to be had than guessing who made the decision to check to an empty set or change a pre-snap read.