Week 13 - Pick your dogs

[drdiags]

Seems folks like the cover vs outright format, so here we go with a full schedule:

Favorite	Underdog	Point Spread (as of Tuesday)	Underdog Beats the Spread	Underdog Wins Outright
@Lions	Packers	6.0	davidonmi,IcedHawk	DrDiags
@Cowboys	Raiders	9.5	AbsolutNET,Polaris,SonicHawk,RolandDeschain,12th_Bob,HFSD1,IcedHawk	chris98251
@Ravens	Steelers	3.0	No One	E.C. Laloosh,Kakaww,Polaris,RolandDeschain,12th_Bob,IcedHawk,davidonmi
@Browns	Jaguars	7.0	Polaris,davidonmi,IcedHawk	DrDiags
@Panthers	Tampa Bay	8.0	DrDiags,AbsolutNET,Seahawkfan80,RolandDeschain,davidonmi,HFSD1,IcedHawk	bestfightstory
@Colts	Titans	4.0	No One	chris98251,davidonmi,IcedHawk
@Vikings	Bears	1.5	Seahawkfan80	E.C. Laloosh,AbsolutNET,Erebus,Kakaww,Polaris,SonicHawk,RolandDeschain,HFSD1
@Jets	Dolphins	1.5	Seahawkfan80	AbsolutNET,Polaris,SonicHawk,davidonmi
@Eagles	Cardinals	3.0	No One	E.C. Laloosh,Erebus,Kakaww,chris98251,SonicHawk,12th_Bob,IcedHawk
Patriots	@Texans	9.5	No One	No One
@Bills	Falcons	3.5	Seahawkfan80	No One
@Niners	Rams	9.5	DrDiags,AbsolutNET,Erebus,Polaris,SonicHawk,RolandDeschain,HFSD1,davidonmi	E.C. Laloosh,Kakaww,chris98251,12th_Bob,IcedHawk,bestfightstory
Broncos	@Chiefs	4.5	No One	E.C. Laloosh,IcedHawk
@Chargers	Bengals	1.0	No One	DrDiags,E.C. Laloosh,Polaris,SonicHawk,12th_Bob,HFSD1,IcedHawk
Giants	@Washington	1.0	No One	No One
@Seahawks	Saints	5.5	AbsolutNET,davidonmi	No One

Using BETONLINE.ag odds from this page

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/odds

.NET handicapper	# of Picks	Correct Covers	Missed Covers	Correct Outright	Missed Outright	RD Factor
Polaris	7	1	2	2	2	1.50
SonicHawk	6	1	1	2	2	0.75
12th_Bob	5	1	0	1	3	0.00
DrDiags	5	0	2	2	1	-1.25
BFS	2	0	0	0	2	-2.00
seahawkfan80	4	2	2	0	0	-2.00
hawksfansinceday1	5	1	2	1	1	-2.50
E.C. Laloosh	6	0	0	1	5	-3.75
Erebus	3	0	1	0	2	-4.00
chris98251	4	0	0	0	4	-4.00
Kakaww	4	0	0	0	4	-4.00
AbsolutNET	6	1	3	1	1	-5.00
RolandDeschain	5	1	2	0	2	-6.25
IcedHawk	10	2	2	1	5	-8.75
davidonmi	8	1	4	1	2	-8.75

 

[drdiags]

Let me know if any info is incorrect, my eyesight isn't the greatest.

 

[Laloosh]

All of my picks are straight up. No spreads...

Steelers, Bears, Cardinals, Rams, Chiefs, Bengals

 

[AbsolutNET]

Cover:
Raiders
Bucs
Rams
Saints

Win outright:
Bears
Dolphins

 

[Erebus]

I'll take the Bears and Cards to win outright, and the Rams to cover. And speaking of the Rams, its at SF, not STL.

 

[Kakaww]

Steelers, Bears, Cardinals, Rams

 

[Polaris]

I think the following dogs win straight up:

Steelers, Bears, Dophins, Bengals

I think the following dogs cover:

Raiders, Jags, Rams

 

[drdiags]

I'll take the Bears and Cards to win outright, and the Rams to cover. And speaking of the Rams, its at SF, not STL.

Thanks. I should have remembered the Thursday night beatdown anyway.

 

[CaptBennett]

My eye is on Tampa Bay and Carolina. Tampa is not going to make it easy. I believe it will be a great game.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

Tampa Bay, Bears, Phins, Falcons. (phins is Dolphins, LOL)
Thanks for doing this. It is fun.
:thirishdrinkers:

All covering. OoPs.

 

[chris98251]

Rams, Cards, Raiders, Titans win .

 

[SonicHawk]

Outright: Bears, Dolphins, Cardinals, Bengals
Cover: Raiders, Rams

 

[RolandDeschain]

Spread: Rams, Tampa Bay, Raiders.
Win: Steelers, Bears.

Diags, I like the new spread/win options. When you do the results after all the games, any chance you can write the # of misses and hits, not just the hits? I feel guilty even asking, with the work you do on this; but as you can see, that didn't stop me, haha. Somebody that goes 4 for 4 shouldn't be listed under someone that went 5 for 8, IMO. *cough humblebrag since I went 100% last week*

 

[drdiags]

Spread: Rams, Tampa Bay, Raiders.
Win: Steelers, Bears.

Diags, I like the new spread/win options. When you do the results after all the games, any chance you can write the # of misses and hits, not just the hits? I feel guilty even asking, with the work you do on this; but as you can see, that didn't stop me, haha. Somebody that goes 4 for 4 shouldn't be listed under someone that went 5 for 8, IMO. *cough humblebrag since I went 100% last week*

Hee hee ... I hear you. Ivotuk did get some props for picking every underdog on the list ... DOOH! Just messing with you Tuk! :thirishdrinkers:

I do think there should be some type of weight added for picking an outright win vs cover, since that is most times a tougher call. Was thinking that any spread under 3 pts would not be counted for "bragging stats". Not sure about that one.

 

[RolandDeschain]

I don't think you need to go that far, just make it based on win percentage, IMO. Ivotuk probably disagrees, however. :lol:

 

[TzarokHawkFan]

All to win - Lions, Boys, Stealers, Browns, Panthers, Colts, Bears, Phins, Cards, Pats, Bills, Rams, Donkeys, Bengals, Giants, HAWKS

 

[RolandDeschain]

Dude, Tzaro, you're supposed to pick UNDERDOGS that you think will win or beat the spread, lol.

Diags, I think you might need to lay down some rules. Maybe a max # of picks, too. Put some challenge in here.

 

[12th_Bob]

I like a lot of dogs this week but the big one I'm looking at covering the spread is the Raiders @ Dallas, RB strength vs. Dallas soft D seems like a good spot with a spread that high.

Steelers, Cards, Rams, and Bengals win outright.

 

[drdiags]

Dude, Tzaro, you're supposed to pick UNDERDOGS that you think will win or beat the spread, lol.

Diags, I think you might need to lay down some rules. Maybe a max # of picks, too. Put some challenge in here.

I was thinking that if we had started with a pot at the beginning of the season, and you lost so much for each wrong pick, gained so much for each right one, folks would be more selective.

Originally when PE did this, the thinking was being able to pick longshot underdogs just to start as a discussion point. Now it is more like your weekly picks and no interaction, so I unfortunately have killed the spirit of the idea.

Since this has been evolving, I didn't want it to be some rigidly setup thing. I figured if you pointed out the worse pickers, that stigma would make folks want to choose wisely, otherwise be labelled the worse picker of the week. I am thinking of how to make wrong picks outweigh winning so the peanut butter selections aren't rewarded.

Maybe next week I will suggest a max for outright/covers with a way to reward risk while penalizing incorrect selections?

 

[davidonmi]

dolphins, and titans outright.
TB, GB, NO, and Jax to cover