Watson cleared by Grand Jury.

[Scorpion05]

The Seahawks fans who ranted about Colin Kaepernick joining this team as a backup, but would welcome Watson with open arms are likely the same dude.

The Seahawks fans who ranted about how phony, fake, and robotic Russell Wilson is, but would celebrate having Watson and never question his character are also the same dude.

Some low character people around this town

 

[keasley45]

Miami, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Seattle………… out of the four, which one makes the most sense to Watson, who has a no trade clause?

It sounded like the Miami interest was more of a connection with Brian Flores. I don't know that the new guys there are going to want to deal with that. I don't see how Carolina could possibly afford him without gutting their whole team, thanks to other poor QB decisions they've made. Tampa would have to be the most attractive situation, but can they realistically pay him? I guess possibly, teams can usually find ways to get under the cap if they really need to.

I'm worried we're going to be the last ones standing with this. I'd rather trade for Tua if Watson ends up in Miami. He'd be an excellent buy low candidate.

40+ mil cap hit, has not played in over a year, and despite what some think at least Wilson was willing to play. Watson just said no I am not playing. Add to that probable lawsuit coming, and who knows if they decide to prosecute him later when they have more info or worse he comes here and does the same thing.

Where do you get this stuff?

Houston chose not to play Watson because of the friction between his camp and the team after he requested a trade as the FO was basically imploding the team, marching a product on the field every Sunday that had zero chance for winning BUT for Watson. That, AND they didn't want to touch him because of the pending investigation and chose instead to sit him and preserve him for a trade.

Watsons last year was as good if not better than any of RWs in completion percentage and yards, on a team that was far worse and willingly jettisoning its other playmakers.

And as far as his legal trouble, it's a matter for civil court now. the prosecution has not made a convincing case and, in fact, by thier actions, have called into question the character of the victims themselves. The 'worst' of it is behind Watson and chances are the accusers will come back with an offer amounting to a fraction of the settlement request (threat) they made before filing charges to get what they can and go about their business.

 

[LTH]

I'm really hoping that the Hawks do NOT get Watson... I'm thinking Pickett even though he probably won't be as good...I just don't want to see the Hawks sell the farm to get him and then Watson blow it somehow...and it all be for not...



LTH

 

[Cyrus12]

Go get him Pete...whatta strategy if he pulls it off!

 

[Cyrus12]

Miami, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Seattle………… out of the four, which one makes the most sense to Watson, who has a no trade clause?

It sounded like the Miami interest was more of a connection with Brian Flores. I don't know that the new guys there are going to want to deal with that. I don't see how Carolina could possibly afford him without gutting their whole team, thanks to other poor QB decisions they've made. Tampa would have to be the most attractive situation, but can they realistically pay him? I guess possibly, teams can usually find ways to get under the cap if they really need to.

I'm worried we're going to be the last ones standing with this. I'd rather trade for Tua if Watson ends up in Miami. He'd be an excellent buy low candidate.

40+ mil cap hit, has not played in over a year, and despite what some think at least Wilson was willing to play. Watson just said no I am not playing. Add to that probable lawsuit coming, and who knows if they decide to prosecute him later when they have more info or worse he comes here and does the same thing.

I have a suspicion anyone that plays qb here will always take a backseat to your hero

 

[Largent.4.Prez]

If the price is right I say come on down Mr. Watson!

 

[KinesProf]

If door # 1 is guaranteed quality pro bowl calibre 26 year old QB Deshaun Watson, that is mighty tempting.

Door #2 is the unknown. But it could be a more robust complete roster full of young hungry inexpensive talented players, more cap space, and possibly Bryce Young, CJ Stroud or Will Levis at QB come 2023. It does include the risk of completely busting though.

... I think I'm rolling the dice on door #2.

 

[HawksSoc]

The Seahawks have a bottom 5-10 roster. Watson wouldn't paper over that anymore then Russ did. We need to embrace the rebuild and being bad for the next 2-3 years.

 

[getnasty]

The Seahawks have a bottom 5-10 roster. Watson wouldn't paper over that anymore then Russ did. We need to embrace the rebuild and being bad for the next 2-3 years.

I disagree. I think DeShaun Watson is everything Russ is from a throwing aspect with way better legs. Oh and is 8 years younger.

Lets say you're able to get him for all the picks we got from Russ. We still have tons of cap space, just picked up Harris and Fant. I'd say it could easily be a top 10 roster before the end of the offseason.

That said i think Waston ends up in Pittsburg somehow.

 

[SeaChase]

I hope they sign him. It would be great to have a QB who could throw over the middle instead of just deep sideline passes.

 

[mrblitz]

It sounds like Watson needs a life coach/mentor to steer him clear of his urges. Even if he had that going forward, from the sound of it he would not be popular in Seattle.

Also, why give up all of the picks they just gathered? From what I hear, there is a lot of defensive talent in this draft.

I'd say 'look for the next Russell', someone with a live arm, quickness/speed; who is a hard-working student of the game.

It would be great if they would find this guy in the 3rd round. Maybe the draft is thin at QB, but there has to be somebody who would be a good risk; somebody nobody else is really looking at, an 'under the radar' type of player.

Then, they could have all of this young talent on defense.

On offense, maybe draft Pleasant as a compliment to Penny and the other backs.

 

[Scorpion05]

Crap just got real in the DW bid fest!

1st, it's crazy how somebody can just lie and cost another person their life. Everybody and their dog felt he was guilty with 20+ charges. I have seen this happen on a personal level and after the facts shaked out, I cannot get myself to ever trust the word of a certain gender again. It's sickening!

The world will always have a stigma on him, even though he was found not guilty, but I won't!

Yes, bring him in, he is NFL proven and that's worth more than any hyped up player in the draft.

Thankfully due to the stigma, he will be traded for cheap...he might be the best deal of the off-season.

I hear you. I have myself lost more money than I care to admit fighting for justice in court through the lies of another only to still have the other come out in better shape than me.

Star athletes are oft afforded unfair protections in cases like this, but they are also at times, easy marks.

Telling that the prosecution only took Deshaun tonthe mat AFTER trying to get him to come to a monetary settlement for his client out of court. That's slimey. If you've been assaulted, sexually or otherwise and care enough to pursue justice for you or others, I personally don't think your first move should be to get a lawyer and see how much money you can make off of it. At the very least it calls into question the character of those leveling the accusations.

I can’t believe there are supposedly educated people on here that actually…think this?

People sue for damages all the time. For women, sometimes that’s the only “justice” you’ll get. The vast majority of sexual assault cases never get convicted or even make it to trial. So seeking money isn’t “slimey,” it’s sometimes the only way to win. People are quick to call them liars. If Watson was an everyday citizen he would be in jail.

Having 20+ women accuse you cannot be whitewashed. Sorry. This is what happens when people have little morals because they really want their football team to win. So they twist and spin it. You cannot look at all of the evidence and follow this case closely…yet think he’s innocent. Sexual assault cases are some of the hardest to prosecute especially with attitudes like the ones on this forum.

What argument are you guys coming forward with next? That OJ Simpson was innocent? I mean hey I guess maybe

 

[LickMyNuts]

It’s fine that he used his power and status to groom young women.

But imagine if he kneeled during the National Anthem to bring awareness to police violence?

 

[Scorpion05]

It is interesting how some of those 'massage providers' advertised on escort sites and then were SHOCKED when he tried to treat them like one normally treats someone on one of those sites.

His mistake was not using a handler to make the arrangements, get NDAs, and build enough of a paper trail to protect himself. That does not make him a predator, it makes him very foolish.

This is an extreme white washing of the case

Some of the same posters lambasting Watson for this were also lashing out at Russ, saying he was a two-faced PR guy. Can't win with some people, haters gonna hate.

You’re comparing a guy who got accused of sexual misconduct and sexual assault by multiple women to a guy whose worst trait was apparently being “too corny” and “too robotic.” Shouldn’t even be in the same sentence character wise

 

[Scorpion05]

Im torn. It has nothing to do with his case either. Everyone trying to take the moral high ground in a virtue signaling game of king of the hill is the most cringe thing in the entire world (Hi Evan Hill!). He is a lot younger than Russ so more time to figure it out, but at the same time you probably give up a good amount of the capital you just gained and put a massive QB contract back into the books.

Still think we need to build the team first then find a QB later, but if I woke up tomorrow and hear we got Deshaun Watson I would be excited.

Virtue signaling huh?

Tell you what. If your criticism of people is that they actually care about the victims in this case…and don’t want Watson representing the franchise at a position kids look up to…then some of you have more questionable character than I thought.

Seriously, it amazes me how little some of you care about right and wrong. Disturbing even. All so that a football team can succeed. You guys don’t even care about Watson the human, just what he can provide for your entertainment. It’s weird and sick.

Yet another reminder that in America, what people pick and choose to care about has nothing to do with decency, just whats convenient.

You can support a Watson trade.

You can’t support a Watson trade and then dismiss the seriousness of sexual assault. That’s a huge F*** you to anyone who’s ever been a victim of something similar at the hands of powerful people. And it underscores that you don’t care about every American. Call that virtue signaling or whatever, but it should just be basic decency.

 

[xray]

He will sign with the Steelers , so don't worry about him coming to Seattle . Book it .

 

[Cyrus12]

It’s fine that he used his power and status to groom young women.

But imagine if he kneeled during the National Anthem to bring awareness to police violence?

The difference is the guy doing the first thing can play..the other guy couldn't.. people will always ignore bad behavior if the talent is there.

 

[Cyrus12]

He will sign with the Steelers , so don't worry about him coming to Seattle . Book it .

Makes sense really...they dealt with Big Bens rapist wit for years so they don't really need to change anything up for Watson.

 

[Elemas]

Steelers make sense to me. They’re a better team. They have a way better football tradition. They will also build around Watson and not around a philosophy. We’re guilty of this.

But, PCs magic worked early on and dependent upon how we handle the next few years, could work again. That model has a young, dynamic QB that’s not taking up a huge chunk of the cap. That model requires some nifty draft magic. That model requires having elements of your defense be so damn good that they actually acquire a nickname that imposes uncertainty on other teams (Legion of Boom aka You Can’t Throw On Us). That model requires a cowbell RB (think Lynch).

Signing Watson simply does not factor into that model. Why have a guy that can light it up in your offense when the last decade has proven that you are NOT willing to go into a pass heavy offense..no matter who is at the helm?

His salary…the fact that he’s not just a game manager as so many of you have called for, the loss of draft capital and last but not least, PCs model.

It doesn’t fit. I hope we do the right thing and let Lock drive this tank. This isn’t the class to be drafting QBs. We’re also dealing with the Rams and Niners for at least two more seasons. I’m under the impression this is not a win at all costs type of season. Keep the picks. Draft from the lines out. Hit on a LB and lock down corner next. If some of the young QB studs are available next year, take a shot. If not, keep drafting impact players on the defensive side of the ball.

A high priced QB is the last thing we should be focusing on now.

P.S. All of this could’ve been avoided if not for the stubborn nature of this FO.

 

[Hockey Guy]

How is this even a "Seahawks" thread?