The Battle #83
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They will always be the lowly Cardinals, but for now you cant dismiss their record since the end of last year. Especially with the injuries to key players. It's impressive.
Seahwkgal":y0romzoh said:Popeye, Detroit was not middle of the road last season, they were ranked 23rd, mostly because of their DBs.
Seahwkgal":y0romzoh said:They didn't draft a single DB nor did they sign any FA's for that weakness. Darius Slay will never be a pro bowler. They kid is always getting burned. They lost Tulloch in their LB corps and also two Safeties are out. They have been getting lucky breaks on defense.
Largent80":2sydpwls said:That is the other reason Tate went to Detroit, to get more footballs thrown his way. What is a coupla million bucks to these guys.
RolandDeschain":2nsl92gd said:Ringless has got you there, Largent. :lol:
SalishHawkFan":1too4lso said:As for flukeyness, the 2011 Niners had a flukey turnover ratio that was unsustainable because it came from a large number of fumbles bouncing their way. Fumble recoveries are an unsustainable stat. While it was true they stripped the ball a lot, much the way our Hawks do, they still got lucky and average those recoveries out and their turnover ratio was not as impressive.
SalishHawkFan":1too4lso said:This year so far, Arizona is not boosting their wins on an inordinate amount of lucky bounces.
SalishHawkFan":1too4lso said:a very good defense that seems to be doing the "next man up" routine Seattle is so successful at, they make good offenses look bad.
Great post Marv..Marvin49":j9sh2mxn said:OK.
I see where you are coming from...but despite the fact that the Niners lost to them, I just don't see the Cards as nearly as good as their pub.
I know MANY said the exact same thing of the 2011 Niners and their ludicrous Turnover margin and 3 rushing TDs ALL YEAR.
For me though...and maybe this is the exact same reason many here don't have respect for Kaepernick...I just don't see how great the Cards are when the Niners play them head to head. This is particularly true with Patrick Peterson whom I loved in college but see him now and seems virtually invisible in Niner games.
I see the hubbub over "Who's the best corner: Sherman or Peterson" and it makes me laugh. Crabtree owns Peterson. Against the 49ers SO FAR, Peterson has been "just a guy". Maybe that's much different against other teams, but that's what I see.
Largent80":tspkm5me said:RolandDeschain":tspkm5me said:Ringless has got you there, Largent. :lol:
Our schedule has been way tougher than theirs because of the weekly parity of the NFL, lets see how they fare this week, when they actually have to play a good team. As Chuck Knox stated with so much accuracy..."it's not WHO you play, but WHEN you play them"...See Dal-ASS week one, and now. I'm not impressed by AZ in the LEAST.
Where have you seen it claimed by any Seahawks fans? First time I saw it was years and years ago on an Oakland Raiders forum, personally; can't say I've even noticed it being some Seahawks-specific thing. Now I'm curious.Popeyejones":2qwby9cl said:Definitely off topic, but what's the backstory of Hawks fans claiming ownership if this hoary sports cliche?
I'd say the 2010 Packers were a flukey team that got hot at the right time, too; in kind of a different way, though.Scottemojo":2qwby9cl said:What the Cards do may seem flukey, but they made the SB playing just that way. Look at the scores from that season. They got hot at the right time and damn near won the whole thing, riding a wave of unsustainable turnovers.
Scottemojo":31mfjbx3 said:What the Cards do may seem flukey, but they made the SB playing just that way. Look at the scores from that season. They got hot at the right time and damn near won the whole thing, riding a wave of unsustainable turnovers.
I know they were all about offense.loafoftatupu":36srr6ub said:Scottemojo":36srr6ub said:What the Cards do may seem flukey, but they made the SB playing just that way. Look at the scores from that season. They got hot at the right time and damn near won the whole thing, riding a wave of unsustainable turnovers.
That was a team that was all about offense. They had a very experienced arm in Warner and an extremely talented pair of receivers in Fitz and Boldin, with an active Breaston reaping the benefits of coverage towards the primary targets. They had some timely turnovers but couldn't stop teams from anything. It was like Warner was playing catch with 2 guys that made amazing catches every game.
Now we are talking about a QB that hasn't had enough starts with the team to have established any tendencies or habits. No real footage to plan against for coordinators. As the status of Palmer continues to be in question that will change rapidly.
I actually wanted that 2008 team to win over the Steelers, it was fun football to watch with all the craziness they brought. Warner took some blistering hits though.
NINEster":n1yk26sd said:J.F.C. man......Kearly you're totally off base with the backhanded compliments of a great 2011 49er team.
Popeyejones":9q79khqs said:kearly":9q79khqs said:They beat the Giants and your 49ers with a CFL caliber QB who currently sports the NFL's lowest completion rate.
True, but in the current offensive scheme no Cards QB will ever have a high completion rate because that's not the passing game they play.
Another way to look at it is that he has an awful completion percentage. and even with QB Rating (which is biased toward completion percentage), he's middle of the pack in the league (83.5).