HawKnPeppa
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MontanaHawk05":37sh41u7 said:Basically, "OL is the least relevant predictor of offensive success" is how I put it. Those who love to talk about how "it all starts in the trenches" have about a decade of mounting evidence to the contrary to deal with.
Another way to put it is, the OL is actually the easiest component of the offense to compensate for. Which makes it the least relevant predictor. Good play-calling can build a quick passing offense that minimizes protection demands for the QB by getting the ball out quickly. WRs with the skills or physical traits to consistently get open or just catch everything thrown their way, like Julio Jones or AJ Green, will give the QB plenty of freedom to throw. A good QB can help the OL with that quick release and his own decision-making and protection checks, and if he's mobile, accurate while mobile, and permitted to scramble, you can get away with even a bad OL. There are too many examples of this (Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Wilson himself for his entire career - he has never had what could be called a good OL) for them to be flukes.
On the other hand, you cannot scheme around the other things nearly as easily. A subpar QB will make inaccurate throws, bad decisions, or hold onto the ball too long. Unremarkable WRs struggle to present themselves as good targets. An OC who isn't creative or adept will leave their offense without direction.
Now, yes - if you have a good offensive line, then things will inevitably happen. It means you've got a Ferrari instead of a Civic. It also means that you're on the hook for every cent that it cost you. Since the cause-effect relationships flow both to and away from the OL, and since there have been so many instances of bad OLs not holding teams back from the Lombardi, I rarely worry about it. I instead worry about the other elements of the team that could be improved more easily.
You make some decent points, but ignore a very big one. QB's of the caliber you mention don't grow on trees. Another thing, you're being very vague about what you term 'offensive success.' Are they racking up yards but not many points? Can they reliably sustain long drives to keep the D off the field and help close out the game. Not sure what you mean by 'offensive success,' but a good (or at least solid) OL usually makes a night and day difference in 'team success,' unless you are the '99 Tama Bay Buc's with their all world D'. Those are, again, exceptions to the rule.
I can't believe you can witness the difference between the first and second half of our season, then minimize the importance of OL. 1. The offence's performance change was night and day in all categories that count. 2. The record pace in sacks allowed might have put even Russell on IR. Is that a desirable thing to happen to your franchise QB? It all starts up front, and that will never change. Lack of adequate run blocking and pass pro is the same as eliminating all of the explosive plays in your playbook. Didn't you enjoy seeing us actually execute some longer-developing plays and even 'gasp' a crossing route to keep a D' honest?
All of the silliness of people dismissing OL becomes evident in the playoffs, when you start trying to match-up against more capable D's. As much as people like to say Brady and Rodgers have played successfully behind terrible OL's, I disagree. They have almost always have al least representative blocking. Rarely do you see 2-3 players immediately busting into the backfield as has been at least the early-season versions of ours.