rightbench":3gvh4c1s said:
Scottemojo":3gvh4c1s said:
Amaze balls. We are a year from a new deal for Russell, and fans are already trying to get the third QB ever to get 50 TDs in his first two years to take less money.
Russell and his agent will get what they can, and that is exactly what he should do.
The implication he might hurt the team by taking too big a piece of the pie is both presumptive and petty.
No one's trying to get him to take less money. What I'm saying is that I don't think he'll demand to be the highest paid QB in the league, even if he deserves it. My statements have nothing to do with us as fans. I speculated that Russell Wilson probably is smart enough to look at other teams and see what their monster QB deals are doing to their team and it's future.
And please provide something other than repeating what I said and ending it with presumptive and petty to be passive aggressive. I provided my reasoning and I'd appreciate hearing yours, not veiled insults because you don't agree with me.
I would assume worrying about this a year early covers the word presumptive. Petty? That is aggressive, not passive aggressive.
As long as we are talking about good ol' passive aggressiveness, How about you wondering if Russell is smart enough to know that him taking a big deal will hamstring the team?
So, rather than deal in speculation about Russell's intelligence, dedication to the team concept, and committment to cash vs allowing his manager and coach to build a winner, lets deal in facts.
Russell will still have 3 possible years of team control after next year. The final year of his deal, and the 2 years following, when he could be tagged as a franchise player. That gives Pete and John modest contract leverage. Though Russell's agent can counter with the fact that two years of franchise tag will cost the Hawks at least 33 million (current tag of 15 mil, with a bump of 20% for year two). Over 3 years, that is 11 per. A great starting point. (and one they have used in the past in negotiating with Red and Clemons)
Those are the facts. Now, we can speculate, but please not about character and intelligence. For instance, I would speculate that Russell's agent will be well prepared, and might counter Schneider that Russell's mobility has allowed him to actually save money on the offensive line, where the Seahawks have been able to draft or sign slightly less pass block oriented linemen, maybe pointing out how much the Saints have had to pay their pass blockers to protect Brees. That mobility(the mobility that turned games with backup players on the O-line into wins, I might add) is going to cost you a bit, Mr. Schneider. I also might point out that the Seahawks are getting a cut of the number one selling jersey in the NFL. That Russell is on NFLN and ESPN all the time, that he has intrinsic value as the face of the franchise, and that he has made the Seahawks a national brand far more than ever before. That if Russell were two inches taller, Seattle would not have gotten him in the 3rd round, and Russell would have made a lot more on his rookie deal, so we would like that money now, please. Look at all that speculation, and none of it even remotely questioning the integrity of Russell if he gets a big deal.
The only leverage the Seahawks have right now is that they can give Russell a raise a year early and get a small discount because of that. Of course, and now we are back to me calling your speculation presumptive, what if Russell has a bad year in 2014? I know it isn't likely, but after the SB this year, talk about Kaepernicks deal in one year was he would get PAID. This year he has gone backwards. However unlikely, it is possible that due to injury, loss of talent around him, or some other stuff, Russell goes backwards in 2014. Presumptive. Premature. A year early. Questioning his intelligence if he does not agree with you on how to build a good team was Petty.
I hope that was un-passive aggressive enough for you.