PFF: 4 Seahawks should have been Round 1 picks

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How many Seahawks rookies have seen the field this season? The new DE/OLB this past week.... Do we count Michael Jackson-some do/some don't. 4 in the article, Mafe, Bryant.... Anyone else? Maybe on Special teams?
 

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How many Seahawks rookies have seen the field this season? The new DE/OLB this past week.... Do we count Michael Jackson-some do/some don't. 4 in the article, Mafe, Bryant.... Anyone else? Maybe on Special teams?
Jackson's a vet. Mafe has been good, but not 1st round good.
 

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Woolen in a redraft would be easily a 1st. If Cross can develop and become a very good left tackle this class is easily the third best ever in the Pete/John era
 

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Yup. Pete is Satan and has NOTHING to do with this team's success.

This YOUNG team. Of course, this is the same Fade who said that Kenneth Walker isn't good on 3rd downs. Beyond hilarious. But I always enjoy a good laugh.
 

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Walker may win OROY and there's people that still wouldn't have drafted him in the 1st round.

He could be the NFL MVP and some people would claim that as well

The draft analytics guys are hard to shake once they lock on to a narrative.

the new school arrogance is funny to witness at times:)
 

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Woolen in a redraft would be easily a 1st. If Cross can develop and become a very good left tackle this class is easily the third best ever in the Pete/John era
Third? The 12 draft class produced two HoFers (arguably only 1), so that’d pretty hard to beat. But what other draft has six above average (at worst) starters. Two of which are legit, if not frontrunner, POY candidates. What other draft class boasts as high a success rate.
 

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I would say the two drafts back to back are the best ever but but maybe that's a SB bias. Anyway this is one of the best they've ever had after a bunch of bad ones.
 

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fade already praised John and gave him credit, Pete of course was just lucky to be on that ride.
There have been some leaks that the scouting department said Pete would override John and the scouting team for early picks that turned out to be terrible. Who knows if its true or not. There are also rumors that this year Pete stepped back a little for this process and let John take the lead which if he did and they hit he deserves credit for.
 

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There have been some leaks that the scouting department said Pete would override John and the scouting team for early picks that turned out to be terrible. Who knows if its true or not. There are also rumors that this year Pete stepped back a little for this process and let John take the lead which if he did and they hit he deserves credit for.
Links? Or are you just quoting what Fade said with no links?
 

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There have been some leaks that the scouting department said Pete would override John and the scouting team for early picks that turned out to be terrible. Who knows if its true or not. There are also rumors that this year Pete stepped back a little for this process and let John take the lead which if he did and they hit he deserves credit for.

Source? I remember hearing inklings of this, but forget who wrote it. Dugar?
 

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Third? The 12 draft class produced two HoFers (arguably only 1), so that’d pretty hard to beat. But what other draft has six above average (at worst) starters. Two of which are legit, if not frontrunner, POY candidates. What other draft class boasts as high a success rate.
2010 had Earl Thomas and Kam who are in the HoF conversation, plus Tate and Okung who were long term highly rated starter in the league at skill positions, so probably this. McCoy and Thurmond were also decent role players
 

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There have been some leaks that the scouting department said Pete would override John and the scouting team for early picks that turned out to be terrible. Who knows if its true or not. There are also rumors that this year Pete stepped back a little for this process and let John take the lead which if he did and they hit he deserves credit for.
Either way, our drafting for a while sucked. I remember Pete even blaming his poor drafting on picking late in the draft this year. Despite that rhetoric, there have been numerous pro bowl and all-pro players available for us to draft in the bottom half of the first round. Guys such as Watt who we could've had.

I think they just got too cute with their advanced metrics. I know Pete is really big on a certain metric, can't remember the name of it. All of the guys we drafted scored very high on that scale for the most part with the exception of Collier.

We just got too cute is what it all amounts to. This draft had a "back to basics" sort of feel to it. There was nothing cute about what we did, it was highly anti-climatic as far as Seahawk drafts go. Everything made perfect sense, no reaches, we drafted at positions of need, no cute picks thrown in. It was simple and brutally effective.

Hats off to Pete, and the FO for making all of the pivots that they needed to.
 
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