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8 legitimate keepable players. This will be a fun position to keep an eye on
Not true, see Jesse Williams.NorthDallas40oz":14d1t1cz said:Sitting out the season isn't going to cure a nagging nuisance of an ailment that Norwood has had since HS and that he's otherwise been able to play through just fine in college. The college off-seasons were much longer than the NFL season and those rests didn't help, so a few months away now seems unlikely to be the elixir. Plus, Norwood is an over-aged rookie, as he's entering his age-25 season, so they can't really afford to red-shirt him for a year during what should otherwise be the physical prime of his career, unless his foot was to become significantly more debilitated than it currently is.
Kevin Norwood isn't Jesse Williams, nor are their injury histories/situations even remotely comparable. Norwood has general/occasional soreness in his foot that he'll likely have to deal with for the rest of his life as the after-effects of an injury from 6 years ago. Williams had a major/structural knee injury that required an additional surgical procedure last season.seahawk12thman":2s51ygep said:Not true, see Jesse Williams.NorthDallas40oz":2s51ygep said:Sitting out the season isn't going to cure a nagging nuisance of an ailment that Norwood has had since HS and that he's otherwise been able to play through just fine in college. The college off-seasons were much longer than the NFL season and those rests didn't help, so a few months away now seems unlikely to be the elixir. Plus, Norwood is an over-aged rookie, as he's entering his age-25 season, so they can't really afford to red-shirt him for a year during what should otherwise be the physical prime of his career, unless his foot was to become significantly more debilitated than it currently is.
Anthony!":1mw6gem7 said:bbsplitter":1mw6gem7 said:Does anyone think there is a chance that we keep more than the expected 6 WR's? What position would you subtract depth from in order to carry the extra WR? Is there one WR that would make it worth it in your opinion?
I think it is possible, it depends the lock are Harvin 5'11", Kearse 6'1", Baldwin 5'10", Norwood 6'2", Richardson 6'0". After that it is between Lockette 6'2", Presley 6'4", Matthews 6'5", mainly I see height. As to were we might keep less, TE, FB, QB. Presley looks like he could play both TE and Wr so maybe there is your reason.
And you are a doctor? I didn't say he was going to go on ir but it is concerning when a foot injury from high school (which was operated on I might add) is still bothering him 5 years later. I hope I am wrong..NorthDallas40oz":1acxa23w said:Kevin Norwood isn't Jesse Williams, nor are their injury histories/situations even remotely comparable.seahawk12thman":1acxa23w said:Not true, see Jesse Williams.NorthDallas40oz":1acxa23w said:Sitting out the season isn't going to cure a nagging nuisance of an ailment that Norwood has had since HS and that he's otherwise been able to play through just fine in college. The college off-seasons were much longer than the NFL season and those rests didn't help, so a few months away now seems unlikely to be the elixir. Plus, Norwood is an over-aged rookie, as he's entering his age-25 season, so they can't really afford to red-shirt him for a year during what should otherwise be the physical prime of his career, unless his foot was to become significantly more debilitated than it currently is.
seahawk12thman":2j5ol3pg said:Not true, see Jesse Williams.NorthDallas40oz":2j5ol3pg said:Sitting out the season isn't going to cure a nagging nuisance of an ailment that Norwood has had since HS and that he's otherwise been able to play through just fine in college. The college off-seasons were much longer than the NFL season and those rests didn't help, so a few months away now seems unlikely to be the elixir. Plus, Norwood is an over-aged rookie, as he's entering his age-25 season, so they can't really afford to red-shirt him for a year during what should otherwise be the physical prime of his career, unless his foot was to become significantly more debilitated than it currently is.
seahawk12thman":2svcafgc said:And you are a doctor? I didn't say he was going to go on ir but it is concerning when a foot injury from high school (which was operated on I might add) is still bothering him 5 years later. I hope I am wrong..NorthDallas40oz":2svcafgc said:Kevin Norwood isn't Jesse Williams, nor are their injury histories/situations even remotely comparable.seahawk12thman":2svcafgc said:Not true, see Jesse Williams.NorthDallas40oz":2svcafgc said:Sitting out the season isn't going to cure a nagging nuisance of an ailment that Norwood has had since HS and that he's otherwise been able to play through just fine in college. The college off-seasons were much longer than the NFL season and those rests didn't help, so a few months away now seems unlikely to be the elixir. Plus, Norwood is an over-aged rookie, as he's entering his age-25 season, so they can't really afford to red-shirt him for a year during what should otherwise be the physical prime of his career, unless his foot was to become significantly more debilitated than it currently is.
Pandion Haliaetus":3dpqo1mh said:Anthony!":3dpqo1mh said:bbsplitter":3dpqo1mh said:Does anyone think there is a chance that we keep more than the expected 6 WR's? What position would you subtract depth from in order to carry the extra WR? Is there one WR that would make it worth it in your opinion?
I think it is possible, it depends the lock are Harvin 5'11", Kearse 6'1", Baldwin 5'10", Norwood 6'2", Richardson 6'0". After that it is between Lockette 6'2", Presley 6'4", Matthews 6'5", mainly I see height. As to were we might keep less, TE, FB, QB. Presley looks like he could play both TE and Wr so maybe there is your reason.
Not to burst your bubble but I don't think the Seahawks care one iota if a WR is tall or not. They'll choose the best players and the best WRs that work well with Wilson especially when things breakdown.
Obviously you have the first 5: Harvin, Baldwin, Kearse, Richardson, Norwood who will likely make it barring injury.
Then the 3 WRs competing for a 6th spot (if the keep one) is Lockette, Bates, and Walters.
Then the best of the rest are Arceto Clark and the rising Kevin Smith.
The Seahawks aren't simply going to keep Presley and Matthews just because they are tall WRs, they have to compete, they have have to earn it. And thus far both aren't even the top 10 of 14 WRs.
Pandion Haliaetus":3t4e4pfx said:Well documented by whom...the FANS? I can't remember PC/JS ever stating they absolutely must have a big WR. They've more or less cut those guys in the last 2 years or let them walk away: 6-5 BMW, 6-4 Durham, 6-1 Obomanu, 6-1 Harper, 6-5 Williams, and 6-3 Rice.
And drafting a big WR didn't seem like a priority in a draft full of them.
So to me height doesn't take the precedent over actual ability.
Beside a lot of you guys are still underrating Luke Willson, who is probably the best WR on team over 6'1.
And now that McCoy likely won't play, you're looking at one of the athletic receiving TEs making the roster who more or less are "BIG WRs"
Cooper Helfet, Rashaun Allen, and presumably Morrell Presley (since he's been practicing at TE).
Pandion Haliaetus":31fa0cix said:Well documented by whom...the FANS? I can't remember PC/JS ever stating they absolutely must have a big WR. They've more or less cut those guys in the last 2 years or let them walk away: 6-5 BMW, 6-4 Durham, 6-1 Obomanu, 6-1 Harper, 6-5 Williams, and 6-3 Rice.
And drafting a big WR didn't seem like a priority in a draft full of them.
So to me height doesn't take the precedent over actual ability.
Beside a lot of you guys are still underrating Luke Willson, who is probably the best WR on team over 6'1.
And now that McCoy likely won't play, you're looking at one of the athletic receiving TEs making the roster who more or less are "BIG WRs"
Cooper Helfet, Rashaun Allen, and presumably Morrell Presley (since he's been practicing at TE).
You said you had a feeling he was going to go on IR. Since he is practicing again i think we can agree your feeling was premature. It really isn't worth it to worry or be concerned about HS injuries. Again, every single football player in the NFL has an injury history.
chris98251":2zdfdihc said:Pandion Haliaetus":2zdfdihc said:Well documented by whom...the FANS? I can't remember PC/JS ever stating they absolutely must have a big WR. They've more or less cut those guys in the last 2 years or let them walk away: 6-5 BMW, 6-4 Durham, 6-1 Obomanu, 6-1 Harper, 6-5 Williams, and 6-3 Rice.
And drafting a big WR didn't seem like a priority in a draft full of them.
So to me height doesn't take the precedent over actual ability.
Beside a lot of you guys are still underrating Luke Willson, who is probably the best WR on team over 6'1.
And now that McCoy likely won't play, you're looking at one of the athletic receiving TEs making the roster who more or less are "BIG WRs"
Cooper Helfet, Rashaun Allen, and presumably Morrell Presley (since he's been practicing at TE).
Pete has said they are looking for certain body types for different positions, he has been trying to find someone to be Sidney Rice before Sidney Rice, He got Sidney Rice and he has been hurt, he is looking for his replacement. The whole mantra of this team is bigger and faster, has been since day one. It is Known.
Anthony!":1715m4zm said:Pandion Haliaetus":1715m4zm said:Well documented by whom...the FANS? I can't remember PC/JS ever stating they absolutely must have a big WR. They've more or less cut those guys in the last 2 years or let them walk away: 6-5 BMW, 6-4 Durham, 6-1 Obomanu, 6-1 Harper, 6-5 Williams, and 6-3 Rice.
And drafting a big WR didn't seem like a priority in a draft full of them.
So to me height doesn't take the precedent over actual ability.
Beside a lot of you guys are still underrating Luke Willson, who is probably the best WR on team over 6'1.
And now that McCoy likely won't play, you're looking at one of the athletic receiving TEs making the roster who more or less are "BIG WRs"
Cooper Helfet, Rashaun Allen, and presumably Morrell Presley (since he's been practicing at TE).
Okay so we are going to play word games now, absolutely, really I said they have been looking for a big wr for some time. I also stated unless a smaller one blows the door off size will matter. Yes ability will matter but so will size, if you have 2 wr for one spot 1 is under 6 foot the other over 6 foot, and everything else is equal you will take the bigger guy. Even if everything else is not equal and the under 6 foot is slightly better but you already have 2 guys who can do what that under 6 foot wr can do, you will go with the bigger wr because you do not have a bunch of big wr.
By the way Norwood is 6'2 " that is big, we also signed a 6'5" guy as well seems like size was a factor
http://espn.go.com/blog/seattle-seahawk ... y-consider
http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/th ... art-12714/
There are more, if you go on KJR and look at some of the links to their shows softy talked with PC before the draft about a big WR and he said yes they would like to get one, hence Norwood.
So yeah they want a big WR especially in the red zone, as to the TE no one is forgetting them but hey are TE not WR.
Pandion Haliaetus":3e0vbiks said:Norwood is big in the sense that he's lengthy... but he's only 200 pounds with not much strength. By those standards big, strong WRs like 6-2, 210 Lockette, 6-1 210 Kearse, and 6-1, 220 Baldwin are gigantic.
Pandion Haliaetus":1kmq2wk6 said:Anthony!":1kmq2wk6 said:Pandion Haliaetus":1kmq2wk6 said:Well documented by whom...the FANS? I can't remember PC/JS ever stating they absolutely must have a big WR. They've more or less cut those guys in the last 2 years or let them walk away: 6-5 BMW, 6-4 Durham, 6-1 Obomanu, 6-1 Harper, 6-5 Williams, and 6-3 Rice.
And drafting a big WR didn't seem like a priority in a draft full of them.
So to me height doesn't take the precedent over actual ability.
Beside a lot of you guys are still underrating Luke Willson, who is probably the best WR on team over 6'1.
And now that McCoy likely won't play, you're looking at one of the athletic receiving TEs making the roster who more or less are "BIG WRs"
Cooper Helfet, Rashaun Allen, and presumably Morrell Presley (since he's been practicing at TE).
Okay so we are going to play word games now, absolutely, really I said they have been looking for a big wr for some time. I also stated unless a smaller one blows the door off size will matter. Yes ability will matter but so will size, if you have 2 wr for one spot 1 is under 6 foot the other over 6 foot, and everything else is equal you will take the bigger guy. Even if everything else is not equal and the under 6 foot is slightly better but you already have 2 guys who can do what that under 6 foot wr can do, you will go with the bigger wr because you do not have a bunch of big wr.
By the way Norwood is 6'2 " that is big, we also signed a 6'5" guy as well seems like size was a factor
http://espn.go.com/blog/seattle-seahawk ... y-consider
http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/th ... art-12714/
There are more, if you go on KJR and look at some of the links to their shows softy talked with PC before the draft about a big WR and he said yes they would like to get one, hence Norwood.
So yeah they want a big WR especially in the red zone, as to the TE no one is forgetting them but hey are TE not WR.
Norwood is big in the sense that he's lengthy... but he's only 200 pounds with not much strength. By those standards big, strong WRs like 6-2, 210 Lockette, 6-1 210 Kearse, and 6-1, 220 Baldwin are gigantic.