5_Golden_Rings
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You really shouldn't compare passer ratings between guys today and guys 20 years ago. Instead, compare the relative difference between what QBs playing in the same year put up in terms of passer rating. Even playoff differential changes should probably be measured against what the mean is for that era (Manning and Brady also played several years where the average passer rating was lower than today's).Maulbert":3u1w84pm said:NINEster":3u1w84pm said:Maulbert":3u1w84pm said:NINEster":3u1w84pm said:What it is, is some annoying cuckery going on by some Niner fans that feel that by being super subservient on a Hawks site that their opinions will mean more or they'll be accepted more. It's nonsense and I wish it would stop. There are ways to pump the brakes without it being over the top. You'll never see the same people posting this stuff on their home site, so no reason the analysis should change here. Certainly the Seahawk fans that visit the Zone don't come in talking down or dismissing their team (if anything they're bigger homers).
Fan is short for fanatic which is basically a slightly irrational follower of a team. The only valuable viewpoint from a rival fan's is one that sees things half full, sees things only the real fan could see, etc. Doesn't mean it's right but it's a viewpoint worth taking.
I've seen stuff on .NET over the years from the main forum that would prove true that others didn't foresee around the league.
Likewise, the other duty we are here to fill for each other is to attack perceived weaknesses in other teams. Boy did .NET go off on Kaepernick like he was the worst starting QB in the history of the sport. Some of it was exaggerated, some of it had some basis.
If it wasn't so personal, I could have looked at Wilson a bit more rationally and with less emotion. I still maintain all of my positions on him until proven otherwise, but yeah it is what it is. You listening Maulbert?
And your positions on him have been consistently proven wrong for 7 years, but you still parrot them like a wind-up doll with his string pulled. It is utterly impossible for you to praise him, I think. You'd probably spontaneously combust. And your inability to admit even a little that he might be a top 5 QB is proof that you can't judge football players with even a modicum of impartiality. No self-respecting expert would even compare GQ to Russell Wilson, and yet, you not only do, but claim he's better. This opinion can only be one of two things, pure stupidity, or bias, and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you're just being a troll, and not actually that dumb. So, yes, I will continue to call out your bullshit whenever you trot it out for inspection. Good lord, you're on an enemy board. Stop acting like a victim.
Ok, he's top 5 at getting production in the regular season. TD passes, TD/INT ratio, deep ball accuracy, resilience, end of the day he puts up #s that can justify the ranking.
Just not a fan of the way he plays the position. I still feel that he plays the position more dependent on mobility, getting outside of the pocket, broken plays than a top 5 QB typically does. He can throw the deep ball as good as anyone else in the league, which is another extension of above. He's an elite playmaker because he can attack deep from anywhere on the field.
But what happens when you face a defense that can take most of those things away? What happens then? Wilson is a better QB in 2019 than he was in 2013, yet the offensive production in the postseason don't seem to be any better than back then.
This season seems to be a bit different than season's past. I'm more open to a more favorable ranking on him based on this season so far.
Top 5, weeks 1-17.
Not top 5, weeks 18+.
Let's start there.
I'll give you credit that you at least stated it as opinion, however, as far as Wilson not performing in the playoffs, that's just inaccurate. I won't deny the goal line int wasn't devastating, but his career playoff passer rating is 94.9. While that is 6 points lower than his regular season average, it's higher than the playoff passer rating of Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Brett Favre, or Steve Young (whose passer rating dips 10+ points during the postseason). Not to mention, he has an 8-5 postseason record. You're basing that opinion on one play. Remember, while he played awful in the first 55 minutes vs. Green Bay, Seattle would not have won their 3rd NFC Championship without his play in overtime. He has an ability to shrug off mistakes when a lot would just fold and wallow in their failure (See: Cam Newton). Also, just as an interesting tidbit, Jared Goff's passer rating dips almost 20 points in the postseason, from 92.9 to 73.6.