Kyler Murray crushed the Cardinals' offseason, teammates say

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He is literally a Smurf among men. Not even close to Russ in size. What made Russ different as a smaller QB was his hand size was that of a person almost a foot taller. It's not the height but ball control that's important.

IMO Murray wi l be serviceable but more Seneca Wallace than Russ.
 

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seabowl":5t13atsd said:
He is literally a Smurf among men. Not even close to Russ in size. What made Russ different as a smaller QB was his hand size was that of a person almost a foot taller. It's not the height but ball control that's important.

IMO Murray wi l be serviceable but more Seneca Wallace than Russ.
I watched the game last night and he was beyond terrible. Couldn't deal with pressure at all. Unless his oline suddenly becomes all pro at every position is doesnt bode well.
 

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He really struggled last night, even beyond his stat line. His first two throws were open and he just missed on them.

It's the type of inconsistency you'd expect from a rookie coming off some very impressive throws last week.

He also got repeatedly flagged because Kingsbury won't drop the college clapping and move to cadences, which is going to (dumbly IMO) get flagged over and over again in the NFL, and also further disadvantages an O-line that's already weak in pass pro.

Whatever Murray ends up doing this year, I doubt it's going to be as bad as some people on this board will insist it is. Starting with Andrew Luck this board has a long history of trashing every young QB in the NFL who shows something, has some promise, or other NFL fans are excited about. Russell Wilson haunts these posts and threads in a very bizarre way, IMO.
 

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Popeyejones":2e4zs9uw said:
He really struggled last night, even beyond his stat line. His first two throws were open and he just missed on them.

It's the type of inconsistency you'd expect from a rookie coming off some very impressive throws last week.

He also got repeatedly flagged because Kingsbury won't drop the college clapping and move to cadences, which is going to (dumbly IMO) get flagged over and over again in the NFL, and also further disadvantages an O-line that's already weak in pass pro.

Whatever Murray ends up doing this year, I doubt it's going to be as bad as some people on this board will insist it is. Starting with Andrew Luck this board has a long history of trashing every young QB in the NFL who shows something, has some promise, or other NFL fans are excited about. Russell Wilson haunts these posts and threads in a very bizarre way, IMO.

Haha @seahawks.netrubes
 

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Popeyejones":1p4y0i6p said:
He really struggled last night, even beyond his stat line. His first two throws were open and he just missed on them.

It's the type of inconsistency you'd expect from a rookie coming off some very impressive throws last week.

He also got repeatedly flagged because Kingsbury won't drop the college clapping and move to cadences, which is going to (dumbly IMO) get flagged over and over again in the NFL, and also further disadvantages an O-line that's already weak in pass pro.

Whatever Murray ends up doing this year, I doubt it's going to be as bad as some people on this board will insist it is. Starting with Andrew Luck this board has a long history of trashing every young QB in the NFL who shows something, has some promise, or other NFL fans are excited about. Russell Wilson haunts these posts and threads in a very bizarre way, IMO.
The only issue most have with Andrew Luck was the bias shown to him over Wilson because of his draft position. I really like AL but injuries have been a big issue.

Most Whiners are still miffed Seahawk fans were right about Kaepernick.
 

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Popeyejones":eobeye5l said:
He really struggled last night, even beyond his stat line. His first two throws were open and he just missed on them.

It's the type of inconsistency you'd expect from a rookie coming off some very impressive throws last week.

He also got repeatedly flagged because Kingsbury won't drop the college clapping and move to cadences, which is going to (dumbly IMO) get flagged over and over again in the NFL, and also further disadvantages an O-line that's already weak in pass pro.

Whatever Murray ends up doing this year, I doubt it's going to be as bad as some people on this board will insist it is. Starting with Andrew Luck this board has a long history of trashing every young QB in the NFL who shows something, has some promise, or other NFL fans are excited about. Russell Wilson haunts these posts and threads in a very bizarre way, IMO.

Oh how quick people on this board are to forget the long, long thread about Wilson's first game at Arizona. It's in the archives, too: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=50155
 

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Well looking at the Career back up versus the Once in a generation talent comparison in their debut, I think the Career back up has a leg up based on first impression in the league.
 

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UK_Seahawk":1qdv0v5g said:
The only issue most have with Andrew Luck was the bias shown to him over Wilson because of his draft position. I really like AL but injuries have been a big issue.

Agreed that Luck has gotten the brunt of the vitriol, but it's Luck, Prescott, Wentz, Rodgers, Newton, etc., etc.

I've seen all those guys get trashed here in a way that I don't see them get trashed other places.

UK_Seahawk":1qdv0v5g said:
Most Whiners are still miffed Seahawk fans were right about Kaepernick.

Yeah, you guys losing your minds over a headphones commercial and that he had a shoe collection still really sticks in my craw. :lol: :lol: :roll:
 

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Popeyejones":t0es0l31 said:
UK_Seahawk":t0es0l31 said:
The only issue most have with Andrew Luck was the bias shown to him over Wilson because of his draft position. I really like AL but injuries have been a big issue.

Agreed that Luck has gotten the brunt of the vitriol, but it's Luck, Prescott, Wentz, Rodgers, Newton, etc., etc.

I've seen all those guys get trashed here in a way that I don't see them get trashed other places.

UK_Seahawk":t0es0l31 said:
Most Whiners are still miffed Seahawk fans were right about Kaepernick.

Yeah, you guys losing your minds over a headphones commercial and that he had a shoe collection still really sticks in my craw. :lol: :lol: :roll:

Yeah, because that's TOTALLY what he was referencing. :roll:
 

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Maulbert":dd7a1k15 said:
Popeyejones":dd7a1k15 said:
UK_Seahawk":dd7a1k15 said:
The only issue most have with Andrew Luck was the bias shown to him over Wilson because of his draft position. I really like AL but injuries have been a big issue.

Agreed that Luck has gotten the brunt of the vitriol, but it's Luck, Prescott, Wentz, Rodgers, Newton, etc., etc.

I've seen all those guys get trashed here in a way that I don't see them get trashed other places.

UK_Seahawk":dd7a1k15 said:
Most Whiners are still miffed Seahawk fans were right about Kaepernick.

Yeah, you guys losing your minds over a headphones commercial and that he had a shoe collection still really sticks in my craw. :lol: :lol: :roll:

Yeah, because that's TOTALLY what he was referencing. :roll:

It's not his fault, Jaws said he had all the tools to become the greatest QB the NFL has ever seen.
 

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Maulbert":3i44jliw said:
Popeyejones":3i44jliw said:
UK_Seahawk":3i44jliw said:
The only issue most have with Andrew Luck was the bias shown to him over Wilson because of his draft position. I really like AL but injuries have been a big issue.

Agreed that Luck has gotten the brunt of the vitriol, but it's Luck, Prescott, Wentz, Rodgers, Newton, etc., etc.

I've seen all those guys get trashed here in a way that I don't see them get trashed other places.

UK_Seahawk":3i44jliw said:
Most Whiners are still miffed Seahawk fans were right about Kaepernick.

Yeah, you guys losing your minds over a headphones commercial and that he had a shoe collection still really sticks in my craw. :lol: :lol: :roll:

Yeah, because that's TOTALLY what he was referencing. :roll:

WHOOOOSH
 

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Just as a point of clarification (and as real question):

Did this "future Hall of Famer" refrain actually come from somewhere (in that someone or multiple people actually said this, as Soulfish and Chris claimed), or are you guys just making it up and then rolling your eyes at your own invention like the Doug Baldwin "feed my kids" thing?

Sorry if I missed it but a very quick google search doesn't find anything.
 

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Popeyejones":tbp82ui6 said:
Just as a point of clarification (and as real question):

Did this "future Hall of Famer" refrain actually come from somewhere (in that someone or multiple people actually said this, as Soulfish and Chris claimed), or are you guys just making it up and then rolling your eyes at your own invention like the Doug Baldwin "feed my kids" thing?

Sorry if I missed it but a very quick google search doesn't find anything.

Random comment - Popeye is the best football poster on our board and it's not even close. Our best contributor wears a JJ Stokes jersey to bed every night. We all kind of suck.
 

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It's partial sarcasm. I just laugh at how so many are crowning him a future great before he's even played a down in the NFL.
 

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Gotcha. Thanks.

I guess I'm just coming across this future great talk a lot less than some people are.

I rememeber the report that started this thread about his teammates claiming he was having a great offseason (which, I mean, LOL, when in the history of the NFL has someone not said that about their teammate's offseason), but most of the intrique around Murray I've seen has been about his skillset and it's fit with the offense Kingsbury is trying to bring into the NFL.
 

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Sarlacc83":2qar6y71 said:
Popeyejones":2qar6y71 said:
He really struggled last night, even beyond his stat line. His first two throws were open and he just missed on them.

It's the type of inconsistency you'd expect from a rookie coming off some very impressive throws last week.

He also got repeatedly flagged because Kingsbury won't drop the college clapping and move to cadences, which is going to (dumbly IMO) get flagged over and over again in the NFL, and also further disadvantages an O-line that's already weak in pass pro.

Whatever Murray ends up doing this year, I doubt it's going to be as bad as some people on this board will insist it is. Starting with Andrew Luck this board has a long history of trashing every young QB in the NFL who shows something, has some promise, or other NFL fans are excited about. Russell Wilson haunts these posts and threads in a very bizarre way, IMO.

Oh how quick people on this board are to forget the long, long thread about Wilson's first game at Arizona. It's in the archives, too: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=50155

Yikes Day 1 Cboom said RW is terrible, can't throw in the pocket, too short etc.

Held that opinion with throughout with all evidence to the contrary. Gotta admire that pigheadedness.
 
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