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He will be on a farm team rister by 2020.
I watched the game last night and he was beyond terrible. Couldn't deal with pressure at all. Unless his oline suddenly becomes all pro at every position is doesnt bode well.seabowl":5t13atsd said:He is literally a Smurf among men. Not even close to Russ in size. What made Russ different as a smaller QB was his hand size was that of a person almost a foot taller. It's not the height but ball control that's important.
IMO Murray wi l be serviceable but more Seneca Wallace than Russ.
Popeyejones":2e4zs9uw said:He really struggled last night, even beyond his stat line. His first two throws were open and he just missed on them.
It's the type of inconsistency you'd expect from a rookie coming off some very impressive throws last week.
He also got repeatedly flagged because Kingsbury won't drop the college clapping and move to cadences, which is going to (dumbly IMO) get flagged over and over again in the NFL, and also further disadvantages an O-line that's already weak in pass pro.
Whatever Murray ends up doing this year, I doubt it's going to be as bad as some people on this board will insist it is. Starting with Andrew Luck this board has a long history of trashing every young QB in the NFL who shows something, has some promise, or other NFL fans are excited about. Russell Wilson haunts these posts and threads in a very bizarre way, IMO.
The only issue most have with Andrew Luck was the bias shown to him over Wilson because of his draft position. I really like AL but injuries have been a big issue.Popeyejones":1p4y0i6p said:He really struggled last night, even beyond his stat line. His first two throws were open and he just missed on them.
It's the type of inconsistency you'd expect from a rookie coming off some very impressive throws last week.
He also got repeatedly flagged because Kingsbury won't drop the college clapping and move to cadences, which is going to (dumbly IMO) get flagged over and over again in the NFL, and also further disadvantages an O-line that's already weak in pass pro.
Whatever Murray ends up doing this year, I doubt it's going to be as bad as some people on this board will insist it is. Starting with Andrew Luck this board has a long history of trashing every young QB in the NFL who shows something, has some promise, or other NFL fans are excited about. Russell Wilson haunts these posts and threads in a very bizarre way, IMO.
Popeyejones":eobeye5l said:He really struggled last night, even beyond his stat line. His first two throws were open and he just missed on them.
It's the type of inconsistency you'd expect from a rookie coming off some very impressive throws last week.
He also got repeatedly flagged because Kingsbury won't drop the college clapping and move to cadences, which is going to (dumbly IMO) get flagged over and over again in the NFL, and also further disadvantages an O-line that's already weak in pass pro.
Whatever Murray ends up doing this year, I doubt it's going to be as bad as some people on this board will insist it is. Starting with Andrew Luck this board has a long history of trashing every young QB in the NFL who shows something, has some promise, or other NFL fans are excited about. Russell Wilson haunts these posts and threads in a very bizarre way, IMO.
UK_Seahawk":1qdv0v5g said:The only issue most have with Andrew Luck was the bias shown to him over Wilson because of his draft position. I really like AL but injuries have been a big issue.
UK_Seahawk":1qdv0v5g said:Most Whiners are still miffed Seahawk fans were right about Kaepernick.
Popeyejones":t0es0l31 said:UK_Seahawk":t0es0l31 said:The only issue most have with Andrew Luck was the bias shown to him over Wilson because of his draft position. I really like AL but injuries have been a big issue.
Agreed that Luck has gotten the brunt of the vitriol, but it's Luck, Prescott, Wentz, Rodgers, Newton, etc., etc.
I've seen all those guys get trashed here in a way that I don't see them get trashed other places.
UK_Seahawk":t0es0l31 said:Most Whiners are still miffed Seahawk fans were right about Kaepernick.
Yeah, you guys losing your minds over a headphones commercial and that he had a shoe collection still really sticks in my craw. :lol: :lol: :roll:
Maulbert":dd7a1k15 said:Popeyejones":dd7a1k15 said:UK_Seahawk":dd7a1k15 said:The only issue most have with Andrew Luck was the bias shown to him over Wilson because of his draft position. I really like AL but injuries have been a big issue.
Agreed that Luck has gotten the brunt of the vitriol, but it's Luck, Prescott, Wentz, Rodgers, Newton, etc., etc.
I've seen all those guys get trashed here in a way that I don't see them get trashed other places.
UK_Seahawk":dd7a1k15 said:Most Whiners are still miffed Seahawk fans were right about Kaepernick.
Yeah, you guys losing your minds over a headphones commercial and that he had a shoe collection still really sticks in my craw. :lol: :lol: :roll:
Yeah, because that's TOTALLY what he was referencing. :roll:
Maulbert":3i44jliw said:Popeyejones":3i44jliw said:UK_Seahawk":3i44jliw said:The only issue most have with Andrew Luck was the bias shown to him over Wilson because of his draft position. I really like AL but injuries have been a big issue.
Agreed that Luck has gotten the brunt of the vitriol, but it's Luck, Prescott, Wentz, Rodgers, Newton, etc., etc.
I've seen all those guys get trashed here in a way that I don't see them get trashed other places.
UK_Seahawk":3i44jliw said:Most Whiners are still miffed Seahawk fans were right about Kaepernick.
Yeah, you guys losing your minds over a headphones commercial and that he had a shoe collection still really sticks in my craw. :lol: :lol: :roll:
Yeah, because that's TOTALLY what he was referencing. :roll:
Popeyejones":tbp82ui6 said:Just as a point of clarification (and as real question):
Did this "future Hall of Famer" refrain actually come from somewhere (in that someone or multiple people actually said this, as Soulfish and Chris claimed), or are you guys just making it up and then rolling your eyes at your own invention like the Doug Baldwin "feed my kids" thing?
Sorry if I missed it but a very quick google search doesn't find anything.
Sarlacc83":2qar6y71 said:Popeyejones":2qar6y71 said:He really struggled last night, even beyond his stat line. His first two throws were open and he just missed on them.
It's the type of inconsistency you'd expect from a rookie coming off some very impressive throws last week.
He also got repeatedly flagged because Kingsbury won't drop the college clapping and move to cadences, which is going to (dumbly IMO) get flagged over and over again in the NFL, and also further disadvantages an O-line that's already weak in pass pro.
Whatever Murray ends up doing this year, I doubt it's going to be as bad as some people on this board will insist it is. Starting with Andrew Luck this board has a long history of trashing every young QB in the NFL who shows something, has some promise, or other NFL fans are excited about. Russell Wilson haunts these posts and threads in a very bizarre way, IMO.
Oh how quick people on this board are to forget the long, long thread about Wilson's first game at Arizona. It's in the archives, too: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=50155