Johnny "Football" Manzel

[chris98251]

Jonny's way more of a drug addict. He's in much worse place. Lots of NFL players get addicted to various stuff while they're playing and recover--Brett Favre. Manziel's own father said he was a druggie. I don't think Leaf was ever a druggie, just a guy who got lost in the wilderness for a while.

Leaf had a pain pill addiction.

 

[Tical21]

This was a train wreck that many people here in Texas saw coming before he ever went to college.

Sure, it could have been "fixed" but it wasn't.

Never ceases to amaze me, these kids that have the whole world by the balls, and throw it all away.

It doesn't amaze me one bit. It all starts when they are kids; and I don't mean your definition of kids, I mean the actual definition. Children. Young. Even the 3rd-day draftees, most of them were the best athlete to ever step on every sports field throughout their childhood. They grew up getting extra perks all the time from friends, family, and coaches that their lesser-skilled peers did not get. They already become egotistical and accustomed to special privilege before they enter high school. Once they are in high school, they're getting groomed under the table by college suitors. If they don't live in the right physical area, they get help faking it to get into the school with the right football team.

It must be very, very, very difficult to raise a well-adjusted super-athlete, which basically all professional sports players are. Doubly so in regions of the country where the sport they go pro in is a religion, like football in the deep south and midwest.

Parents...If you ever gave extra privilege, no matter how small, to the star athlete (I'm not talking about an MVP award in a sport, or something like that...Read what I just typed, you know what I mean) or helped contribute to their egos like this, you've played a role in helping to ruin them as adults and made it far more difficult for them to succeed when they're instantly inundated with wealth and true fame after being drafted. It's very similar in nature to rich kid syndrome; a lot of kids that grow up in seriously wealthy families have issues dealing with privilege and superiority over others less fortunate. The fact that they find out money really does buy extra privilege in this world doesn't help, of course.

All these pro athletes that get drafted literally spent their entire lives until that point being told, and the actions of those around them confirming, that they are better than their peers, and I don't just mean better athletes.


@PMed: The fact that this amazes you surprises me.

Do you actually know any of these athletes you speak of? I know at least a few dozen friends/teammates that became professional athletes and hundreds that participated in major college athletics, all over the country, and there are maybe a handful that acted anything like the example you painted, and those were almost all quarterbacks.

 

[Largent80]

Jonny's way more of a drug addict. He's in much worse place. Lots of NFL players get addicted to various stuff while they're playing and recover--Brett Favre. Manziel's own father said he was a druggie. I don't think Leaf was ever a druggie, just a guy who got lost in the wilderness for a while.

Leaf had a pain pill addiction.

Yes, he burgalized houses where there were drugs, but I guess thats ok because it isn't domestic violence.. :roll:

 

[Maulbert]

Jonny's way more of a drug addict. He's in much worse place. Lots of NFL players get addicted to various stuff while they're playing and recover--Brett Favre. Manziel's own father said he was a druggie. I don't think Leaf was ever a druggie, just a guy who got lost in the wilderness for a while.

Leaf had a pain pill addiction.

Yes, he burgalized houses where there were drugs, but I guess thats ok because it isn't domestic violence.. :roll:

That's not what I said at all. What I was saying was that what Manziel has done while he still had a career is far worse than anything Leaf did at the same age. Leaf spiraled out of control after football much like a lot of former athletes do, sadly. This is just Manziel's warmup act. Leaf looks like he finally cleaned himself up. If Manziel keeps at the pace he's going, he'll likely be dead before he ever gets that chance.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Regardless. Leaf burglaized houses to get drugs. That is ridiculous. Way worse than J.M.

After how long? Also, you don't think Manziel is heading straight down that path? He just needs to run out of money like Leaf did.

Get real, Largent; come on, man...

 

[Largent80]

:lol: .....Yes , this week according to y'all here, I'm talking out my ass, need to get a handle, and get real.....Glad there are so many therapists in the house, I feel so much better, and will continue on. :lol: