If anybody tells you lucky win?

[dogorama]

It wasn't luck at all. The Seahawks caused the kicker to rush the kick by exploiting a weakness they saw on film. On the previous FG Sherman missed blocking it by one inch and was close on an earlier one. The Vikings and the kicker were well aware of that. PC confirmed that "the final kick was kicked much faster than their other kicks. It was considerably faster," when asked if Sherman's almost block had an impact on the last kick of the game. http://www.fieldgulls.com/2016/1/12/107 ... ence-notes

 

[rideaducati]

I don't care what any of you say... The Seahawks were lucky. Just smile and agree with the people that say we were lucky. That ticks them off more than arguing otherwise. Especially in North Carolina...I'm having a blast sporting my gear, smiling, and agreeing that the Seahawks were lucky.

 

[Seafan]

If the game had been played on Saturday the outcome would have been the same, the Seahawks would have won but by a much larger margin. There was no rhythm to the offense. The cold and communication issues were to blame. If the game had been played in Seattle you are looking at a 30 point victory. The Hawks were unlucky to have played in the 3rd coldest playoff game in NFL history. The Vikings were lucky to have played in that game. They have now lost that edge forever.

 

[fenderbender123]

If Minnesota would have missed a 27 yard FG in the 1st quarter, and then just simply didn't have a chance to kick one at the end of the game and lost 10-9, nobody would be saying Seattle got lucky and only won because of a missed FG in the 1st quarter....even though it's exactly the same thing.

Nobody would have said it because it's absolutely under no circumstances the same thing.

The same play in the first quarter would swing a team's win probability by 5-10% or so, whereas that play with 20 second left in the 4th quarter swung the Vikings win probability by about 99% or so.

I intended my scenario to be thought of as if the rest of the game played out in a manner that would have made that missed FG one of the difference makers in the final score, rather than isolating that point of time and viewing the rest of the game from that point as unpredictable.

Of course, there's no way to know that the game would have played out that way at that point given how much time there was to play and how it affects everything else from there on out. But once somebody starts using their brain and putting this together, they will soon realize that to say that Seattle was lucky at the end would also have to admit that Minnesota was lucky to be in it at the end in the first place, given the inprobabilty of certain plays such as Jon Ryan trying to fun for a first down instead of punting the football even though he had plenty of room. How often does he do that? Statistically, there's less of a chance of that happening than missing a 27 yard FG.

 

[IndyHawk]

Minnesota's offense had 8 quarters to get in the end zone this year against the Hawks and couldn't do it.

This!You don't win games by not scoring touchdowns.The better team won luck be damned!

 

[SFVikeFan]

If the game had been played on Saturday the outcome would have been the same, the Seahawks would have won but by a much larger margin. There was no rhythm to the offense. The cold and communication issues were to blame. If the game had been played in Seattle you are looking at a 30 point victory. The Hawks were unlucky to have played in the 3rd coldest playoff game in NFL history. The Vikings were lucky to have played in that game. They have now lost that edge forever.

LOL 30 point victory my a$$. Sheer arrogance. It wouldn't kill some of you to admit that the Seahawks were lucky, and the Vikings defense is pretty damn good. Before that game so many of you were on here readily dismissing the fact we lost 4 defensive starters in the last game and many here were boasting about blowout predictions, now you don't want to admit that maybe the Vikings defense at full strength is pretty damn good. There was no rhthymn to the offense because we had Joseph, Barr, and Smith back in the lineup.

You can talk about a muffed punt, we can talk about how many times does a QB get a snap over his head and turn it into a 35 yard gain, all because we lost 2 CB's on that drive and our #5 CB inexplicably bailed on his coverage of Lockett during that scramble drill. How many times does a kicker miss a FG from 27 yards? 188/190 times it's good.

Whether you call it luck, or statistically highly improbable .... whatever you want to call it, Seattle didn't do anything other than watch the Vikings curse themselves into another season-ending chokejob when all they needed was a glorified routine extra point to win it. It wasn't anything you did, so it's hilarious reading all these posts patting yourselves on the back like you earned it or it would have magically been a 30 point blowout, the reality is that game was the result Vikings living up to their well documented history of choking away a playoff game when they had it won.


Losing a lot of respect for Seattle fans reading some of these responses, sad that so many of you have no respect for the Vikings or the fact they punched you in the mouth, bloodied your nose and then choked away a game-winning point blank FG.

 

[fenderbender123]

If the game had been played on Saturday the outcome would have been the same, the Seahawks would have won but by a much larger margin. There was no rhythm to the offense. The cold and communication issues were to blame. If the game had been played in Seattle you are looking at a 30 point victory. The Hawks were unlucky to have played in the 3rd coldest playoff game in NFL history. The Vikings were lucky to have played in that game. They have now lost that edge forever.

LOL 30 point victory my a$$. Sheer arrogance. It wouldn't kill some of you to admit that the Seahawks were lucky, and the Vikings defense is pretty damn good. Before that game so many of you were on here readily dismissing the fact we lost 4 defensive starters in the last game and many here were boasting about blowout predictions, now you don't want to admit that maybe the Vikings defense at full strength is pretty damn good. There was no rhthymn to the offense because we had Joseph, Barr, and Smith back in the lineup.

You can talk about a muffed punt, we can talk about how many times does a QB get a snap over his head and turn it into a 35 yard gain, all because we lost 2 CB's on that drive and our #5 CB inexplicably bailed on his coverage of Lockett during that scramble drill. How many times does a kicker miss a FG from 27 yards? 188/190 times it's good.

Whether you call it luck, or statistically highly improbable .... whatever you want to call it, Seattle didn't do anything other than watch the Vikings curse themselves into another season-ending chokejob when all they needed was a glorified routine extra point to win it. It wasn't anything you did, so it's hilarious reading all these posts patting yourselves on the back like you earned it or it would have magically been a 30 point blowout, the reality is that game was the result Vikings living up to their well documented history of choking away a playoff game when they had it won.


Losing a lot of respect for Seattle fans reading some of these responses, sad that so many of you have no respect for the Vikings or the fact they punched you in the mouth, bloodied your nose and then choked away a game-winning point blank FG.

When you're Russell Wilson, you turn broken plays into big gainers almost every game, and often times more than once. You obviously don't watch Seattle play very often.

What are the odds of making a 27 yard FG to take the lead at or near the very end of the game? I'll bet it's less than 99%. How about in those weather conditions? Probably even less. What are the odds that a team would successfully make 3 FGs in a row, with 2 of them being over 40 yards in those weather conditions? Probably not very high. I don't see anyone saying Minnesota was lucky to make all 3 of those other FGs.

If people are gonna tell us that our team only won because we got lucky, then you should expect these types of responses in defense of our team.

 

[Diezel Dawg]

Who fricken cares. A win is a win. That's all that matters

 

[dogorama]

Losing a lot of respect for Seattle fans reading some of these responses, sad that so many of you have no respect for the Vikings or the fact they punched you in the mouth, bloodied your nose and then choked away a game-winning point blank FG.

The Vikings had their full contingent on offense including their all-world running back. The Seahawks were missing their all-pro running back plus his backup. What we had was a practice-squad running back whose only real purpose was not to fumble the ball. Not only that we didn't have our all-pro tight end or his backup. Add to that the -6 degrees at kickoff and -25 wind chill and you have conditions that are nearly unplayable.

As for the respect, you didn't come here seeking a fair evaluation of the game but to validate your teams performance after a humiliating defeat a month ago w/a fantasy that you actually won the game. Your "best running back in the history of the NFL," as I have read on your message board, gained 1.9 yds a carry for a whole 45 total yds. I actually admired Teddy Bridgewater for how well he held up after being vilified by Minnesota's fans after the earlier game.

How all this adds up to "the fact they punched you in the mouth, bloodied your nose and then choked away a game-winning point blank FG" is beyond me.

 

[rideaducati]

Losing a lot of respect for Seattle fans reading some of these responses, sad that so many of you have no respect for the Vikings or the fact they punched you in the mouth, bloodied your nose and then choked away a game-winning point blank FG.

The Vikings had their full contingent on offense including their all-world running back. The Seahawks were missing their all-pro running back plus his backup. What we had was a practice-squad running back whose only real purpose was not to fumble the ball. Not only that we didn't have our all-pro tight end or his backup. Add to that the -6 degrees at kickoff and -25 wind chill and you have conditions that are nearly unplayable.

As for the respect, you didn't come here seeking a fair evaluation of the game but to validate your teams performance after a humiliating defeat a month ago w/a fantasy that you actually won the game. Your "best running back in the history of the NFL," as I have read on your message board, gained 1.9 yds a carry for a whole 45 total yds. I actually admired Teddy Bridgewater for how well he held up after being vilified by Minnesota's fans after the earlier game.

How all this adds up to "the fact they punched you in the mouth, bloodied your nose and then choked away a game-winning point blank FG" is beyond me.

The only nose that was bloodied was our punter and he bloodied his own nose... Congrats.

Without the foul weather, this game is another blowout. Russell throws three touchdowns because the two deep underthrown passes are on target. They also add a couple field goals instead of going for it on 4th and 14.