Fansided Article ripping on Carroll
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Sports Hernia
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The only thing I blame Pete for is not terminating the current OC yet.
Cyrus12
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he's the HC and took the blame which he did...but the OC who called the play blamed his 5th special teams specialist WR for not making the play...
hawknation2015
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It's a disgusting article devoid of facts.
Should college coaches be forced to stay at the college level forever? Carroll was offered a major pay increase in addition to complete control of the team, including the ability to hire his own GM -- a power few coaches have ever had in the history of the league.
Never mind the fact that Reggie Bush and his family's decision to accept money from wannabe agents in San Diego had nothing to do with Pete Carroll. Those "agents" were ex-cons who had never represented anyone before. They were not even USC fans and had never contributed any money to their football program. One of them got the money to purchase the house that Bush's family stayed in by getting his mother to take out a $200,000 home loan. The car that Bush purchased with money from the agents was a six-year old used car that no one would have suspected had come from anyone but his parents or his own savings. Carroll had no way to know this was going on. It started at the very end of Bush's sophomore year, and Bush and the agents had every reason to keep it a secret.
That is the sort of violation that can never be totally prevented . . . sort of like marijuana usage. Yet people use it as an excuse to attack the coach who had no knowledge or control over it. Carroll also benefited in no way from Bush's decision to take money. The wannabe agents were paying Bush, in essence, to leave school early to enter the NFL so that they could represent him. This wasn't money from Carroll, and it wasn't a recruiting incentive. He derived zero advantage from it.
This article is also ironic in its praise of the NCAA for "doing its job." Just this week the NCAA lost its appeal to unseal records in the Todd McNair case. McNair, who coached RBs at USC under Carroll at the time Bush accepted the agent's money, has sued them for defamation and wrongly impairing his contractual relationship. His contract was not renewed after the NCAA's infractions committee ruined his career by making it impossible for any school to hire him.
A superior court judge had previously ruled that the NCAA's investigation of McNair was done with "malice," which would allow his defamation claim to proceed. The LA Times, NY Times, and other media publications sued to unseal internal NCAA communications that show they were acting with malice toward McNair. If and when those emails get out, it will be mighty embarrassing for the NCAA.
Also of note: the infractions committee in charge of the USC sanctions was run by Paul Dee, who was actually hit with his own sanctions when he was the AD at Miami at the time when the school was caught directly paying student athletes with fraudulent Pell Grants and other subsidies. This was also the time when notorious booster Nevin Shapiro was lavishing Miami football players with millions of dollars in illicit benefits. Talk about hypocrisy.
Should college coaches be forced to stay at the college level forever? Carroll was offered a major pay increase in addition to complete control of the team, including the ability to hire his own GM -- a power few coaches have ever had in the history of the league.
Never mind the fact that Reggie Bush and his family's decision to accept money from wannabe agents in San Diego had nothing to do with Pete Carroll. Those "agents" were ex-cons who had never represented anyone before. They were not even USC fans and had never contributed any money to their football program. One of them got the money to purchase the house that Bush's family stayed in by getting his mother to take out a $200,000 home loan. The car that Bush purchased with money from the agents was a six-year old used car that no one would have suspected had come from anyone but his parents or his own savings. Carroll had no way to know this was going on. It started at the very end of Bush's sophomore year, and Bush and the agents had every reason to keep it a secret.
That is the sort of violation that can never be totally prevented . . . sort of like marijuana usage. Yet people use it as an excuse to attack the coach who had no knowledge or control over it. Carroll also benefited in no way from Bush's decision to take money. The wannabe agents were paying Bush, in essence, to leave school early to enter the NFL so that they could represent him. This wasn't money from Carroll, and it wasn't a recruiting incentive. He derived zero advantage from it.
This article is also ironic in its praise of the NCAA for "doing its job." Just this week the NCAA lost its appeal to unseal records in the Todd McNair case. McNair, who coached RBs at USC under Carroll at the time Bush accepted the agent's money, has sued them for defamation and wrongly impairing his contractual relationship. His contract was not renewed after the NCAA's infractions committee ruined his career by making it impossible for any school to hire him.
A superior court judge had previously ruled that the NCAA's investigation of McNair was done with "malice," which would allow his defamation claim to proceed. The LA Times, NY Times, and other media publications sued to unseal internal NCAA communications that show they were acting with malice toward McNair. If and when those emails get out, it will be mighty embarrassing for the NCAA.
Also of note: the infractions committee in charge of the USC sanctions was run by Paul Dee, who was actually hit with his own sanctions when he was the AD at Miami at the time when the school was caught directly paying student athletes with fraudulent Pell Grants and other subsidies. This was also the time when notorious booster Nevin Shapiro was lavishing Miami football players with millions of dollars in illicit benefits. Talk about hypocrisy.
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hawknation2015
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The guy who wrote this is a Notre Dame beat writer . . . that makes sense. Carroll beat Notre Dame eight-consecutive years and the average score in those games was like 43-14. I would probably be salty too. I know how much I disliked Carroll when he was blasting the Huskies while we were at our worst.
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One of the many painful downsides from losing this game. Wilson and Carroll trolls are out for blood. Didn't click the link but from the comments it matches about what I would expect to see.
We can expect a year's worth of these type of shots. If a title isn't in the near future, the anti-Carroll folks get to stroke themselves, feeling nice and vindicated in their vitriol. Lot of legacy slipped from the team's hands on that 2nd down play. Oh well.
We can expect a year's worth of these type of shots. If a title isn't in the near future, the anti-Carroll folks get to stroke themselves, feeling nice and vindicated in their vitriol. Lot of legacy slipped from the team's hands on that 2nd down play. Oh well.
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Fansided is what people want to think Bleacher Report still is. Take nothing said there seriously...
King Dog
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I've been a fan since 1983 or before. I'm not blaming Carroll for nothing. It's been a sweet ride so far.
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This is a really REALLY stupid POST.Ranker777":1cv0bx8u said:
Some people wouldn't know the truth if it came up and bit them in the ass.
Fansided is full of shit, and so is anyone that BELIEVES it's on the up & up.
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Darrell Bevell is a good offensive coordinator.
I'm sure most of the harder-core fans here have had the same experience that I have with this. Every single person you know wants to talk about the play call, and only the play call, because you're the crazy Hawks fan and they want your take on it. After a week of debate that last call has been so over analyzed and commented on that I wouldn't click on an article like that if it was written by Nate Silver.
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I don't like PC all that much, but that article is total trash.
morgulon1
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I like PC and appreciate what he's done for this team. We do not go to two SB without him . Whoever wrote that article
is a hater. Period.
is a hater. Period.
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The Outfield":3q9hbojz said:
Eggs Zachary.drdiags":3q9hbojz said:
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