2017 Seahawks, Depth Chart, Roster Moves, Cap Position

[jammerhawk]

Lynch Stuff

I now believe this is on, and a trade of his rights will happen.

The contract stuff is somewhat meaningless unless he creates a cap hit for the Hawks.

 

[Jville]

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[jammerhawk]

Thanks Jville!

Although this player is a college FA and a player likely to be a UDFA he's technically a FA so his colour code above is appropriate yet could easily be the bright green colour even though he's added before the draft.

Interesting addition, fast, he must have good hands and is likely a return specialist. Tough position group to break into here.

 

[jammerhawk]

DE/OLB- and former #3 OA pick Dion Jordan is signed.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... on-jordan/

The deal appears to be another 1 year deal.

 

[chris98251]

Thanks Jville!

Although this player is a college FA and a player likely to be a UDFA he's technically a FA so his colour code above is appropriate yet could easily be the bright green colour even though he's added before the draft.

Interesting addition, fast, he must have good hands and is likely a return specialist. Tough position group to break into here.

He has a hole in his game, routes, hands. something or he would not be a UDFA, Nehemiah had lousy hands but made occasional catches, Ginn has speed but is just recently last couple years being recognized as a decent receiver, lousy route runner and suspect hands initially and was a return guy mostly. Had to really work on his game over the years.

Until we see him in action we won't know what he doesn't bring to the table.

 

[jammerhawk]

He was @ LSU on a track scholarship and they didn't want him playing football there, so he never played football in college. That was the reason he was a UDFA.

He's a long shot to earn a roster spot no matter what at any rate, the roster has a lot of depth at WR, and he may only be a returner. That said as you rightly observe we don't know what if anything he can do except run really fast. He may indeed have a giant learning curve to climb to learn to play WR or even as a KR as a pro or major holes in his game. You can't teach world class speed however.

He's still an interesting addition, the FO is still rolling over the rocks to find the diamonds in the rough. Throw him into the competition and let's see how he does. Given the need to protect Lockett as he recovers from his broken leg this addition makes some sense.

 

[Jimjones0384]

He was @ LSU on a track scholarship and they didn't want him playing football there, so he never played football in college. That was the reason he was a UDFA.

He's a long shot to earn a roster spot no matter what at any rate, the roster has a lot of depth at WR, and he may only be a returner. That said as you rightly observe we don't know what if anything he can do except run really fast. He may indeed have a giant learning curve to climb to learn to play WR or even as a KR as a pro or major holes in his game. You can't teach world class speed however.

He's still an interesting addition, the FO is still rolling over the rocks to find the diamonds in the rough. Throw him into the competition and let's see how he does. Given the need to protect Lockett as he recovers from his broken leg this addition makes some sense.

That's not it at all. They didn't not want him to play at LSU. It was due to NCAA rules. When a player takes a scholarship for a minor sport, they have to give up their scholarship and sit for two years. They do this so a team can't give a kid a minor scholarship and stash him for a while. It's all detailed in the article below.


http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/14/seah ... e-receiver

 

[jammerhawk]

Thanks for that JJ0384.

I knew he was track scholarship candidate who wanted to play football but the details of why not appeared to be that LSU didn't want him to be on the football squad. they apparently did but at the cost to Grayson of having to give up his track scholarship for 2 years.

He's a nice add however, time will tell if he can make the roster.

 

[jammerhawk]

My wife just showed me a Seahawks United Instagram post that said the Hawks have today re-signed OLB- Kache Palacio, ex- Wash St., he was on the PS last season for quite some time.

 

[KitsapGuy]

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[jammerhawk]

Thanks, as both were ERFAs and were tendered by the team i have treated alll the ERFAs as being signed unless they don't wish to play football this season. As a result I already recorded them both as 'signed' when they were tendered.

 

[jammerhawk]

As we all know the Hawks refused to match Gilliams' one year contract offer from the 49ers as was their right with their RFR level tender to him, so Gillam is now signed by the 49ers w/o compensation to the Hawks.

 

[LolaRox]

Is Tre Madden still on the team? He is still listed on seahawks.com

 

[jammerhawk]

The Seahawks.com roster and DC threads are out of date.

Madden was placed on IR last season as an undrafted player, at the end of the season he was apparently not renewed. I could be wrong about this. Truthfully I'm not sure of the answer to your question because it is possible he still remains on IR or reverted to the team after the season ended b/c of an existing contract. Interestingly though he is shown on the team's roster list and so he could be and I have missed him.

Final answer = I don't know for sure. He is shown on the team's roster thread, and he is accounted for as being on the roster at OTC.com.

Now I'm sleuthing on this.

 

[jammerhawk]

Thanks LolaRox for having me check this. I believe you were right to ask me check this and I now believe Tre Madden is on the team and my OP DC is incomplete by not including him. I may have misread things at the end of the season causing this error.

FYI he is listed on the team roster page, as well as on ourlads.com and on rostermon.com. Further confirmation comes from OTC.com and Spotrac.com.

I will now make this correction and add him to the roster. I note that he tried out last season as a FB before being placed on IR so instead of being buried on the night w very deep RB DC he just might be a FB.

BTW I appreciate the heads up and your inquiry. This type of inquiry and correction is exactly what I need to make the Dc as accurate as information allows it to be.

 

[LolaRox]

No problem.

I appreciate you doing this. It's nice to come here and see the information. :irishdrinkers:

 

[jammerhawk]

Seahawk have signed QB- Jake Heaps. He returns as a candidate for the backup's job with Boykin facing his multilevelled legal problems. Heaps if nothing else is a steady Eddie type with an adequate arm. Am curious about the WVU QB who has a reputation as a mad bomber.

I'm uncertain about the players that have been added as UDFAs b/c at least one may have signed elsewhere, and players who have been signed for tryouts may be added to the list, and/or the list is incomplete. I will revise this when I know moreover the team formally announces their UDFA signings.

Numbers have been assigned to the players added in FA and the DC updated now the numbers are assigned.

 

[jammerhawk]

There seems to be something goofy with roster numbers as the team seems to have more than the maximum 90 players.

As a result Players seemingly on the roster may in fact not be.

I am holding off adding more until the team clarifies the situation as the numbers seem out of whack.

 

[Jville]

There seems to be something goofy with roster numbers as the team seems to have more than the maximum 90 players.

As a result Players seemingly on the roster may in fact not be.

I am holding off adding more until the team clarifies the situation as the numbers seem out of whack.

The reason is ......................

The draft picks are not counted until they sign a contract with the team. The 90 man roster limit applies only to players currently under contract for 2017.

...................... so right now the upper limit for your list would be a maximum of 90 signed players + 11 unsigned draft picks. As the unsigned draft picks are signed, someone will be released when necessary to keep the number of signed players at the 90 man limit.

 

[jammerhawk]

Thanks, still a tad uncertain about which players are UDFAs and which are here for tryouts, if any. My DC then seems a few players short as there are 96 players listed.

The roster limit then instead of 90 is really 101 players if you don't count the unsigned draft picks but they are included in the 101 number. I'm sure the team has offered and the draft picks will all or presumably have all signed assurances they will not lose their right to a contract at the slot drafted if injured during minicamps or workouts.

Of course what you say is correct I had just just assumed these drafted players counted but in reality they are only picked to be eligible to be offered a contract by the team for 4 years or moredepending on round drafted.