1pm east coast starts

[kinesmajor]

How in the world does the no vs ne game start at 1 when all of our east coast games start at 10? Really?

 

[droop828]

NE is east coast.

 

[Gap Filler]

Lol, I think what he means is why do they play at 4 and not 1 in their time zone

 

[droop828]

Oh yeah, my bad.

 

[zhawk]

you know why :stirthepot:

 

[rsm650]

you know why :stirthepot:

Is it east coast bias?

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

you know why :stirthepot:

Is it east coast bias?

No, it's east coast bias.



Anyone who thinks the Hawks are given an equal playing field hasn't watched the NFL until recently. Hawks aren't alone though....e.g. Raiders.

 

[SalishHawkFan]

It's an attempt by the NFL to tilt the games in favor of big market east coast teams.

 

[DTexHawk]

It's purely to get tv numbers, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Dick Johnson]

The 10am start time is a poor excuse. Great teams can win at any time, and at any venue.

 

[Sports Hernia]

The 10am start time is a poor excuse. Great teams can win at any time, and at any venue.

Sure thing Dick! You seem to get real brave after your ninnies win but when they lose you get scarce, can you explain that one away???

 

[Dick Johnson]

Man, Sports Hernia, you sure do love yourself some Dick. Care to explain that one away???

 

[ClumsyLurk]

Maybe we can start having 4pm west coast games

 

[pehawk]

Eventually this will change. As Vegas bets more and more against WC teams playing at 10 AM, a cry of inequality will arise. It'll take Vegas leading the way, unfortunately.

 

[3Girls'HawkDad]

Man, Sports Hernia, you sure do love yourself some Dick. Care to explain that one away???

He also hates Bush

 

[NINEster]

I'm wondering where this perceived east coast bias has merit?

I hear it all the time and not sure if I can see why east coast media would feel the need to help teams on the east coast.

BTW, I saw an article a year or two ago that said west coast teams traditionally have a big advantage playing late night prime time games vs. east coast opponents due to some kind of advantage with sleep patterns. Said it didn't matter if game was played on east or west coast either.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/co ... tis/14387/

Scroll down a bit to see the part copy & pasted here...

"Monday Night Football – East Coast vs. West Coast
In 1997 there was a study done by Stanford University that looked at circadian rhythms (the body clock) and enhanced athletic performance. Scientists believe that peak athletic performance is reached in the late afternoon. For this study, they collected data on Monday Night Football games from 1970 to 1994 when a West Coast team played an East Coast team.

The hypothesis is that if peak performance comes in the late afternoon, then these Monday Night Football games that used to start at 9 p.m. EST would actually benefit the West Coast teams, regardless of game site, as they were always closer to that peak performance time of late afternoon. If the game was on the East Coast, the game wouldn’t end until after midnight, which is when the East Coast team would be near their sleep cycle.

Since their data only went to 1994, we went and did the same for 1995-2011. However, now we won’t be using the same definitions for East and West as before, as this Stanford study defined West Coast teams as the four Pacific Time Zone teams in that era (San Francisco, San Diego, Oakland, Seattle), and East Coast teams are the 17 teams that play in the Eastern Time Zone.

Note: for the Stanford study, there were 5 West Coat teams, as the Rams were in Los Angeles during 1970-1994. The Rams moved to St. Louis in 1995, thus the updated data only has 4 West Coast teams.

The top half represents all regular season game results. West Coast teams have lost 8.5 percent more games on the road from 1995-2011 than they did from 1970-1994. The East Coast teams have remained very consistent overall.

The Monday Night Football splits are very interesting.
• From 1970-1994, in head-to-head West Coast vs. East Coast games, the West Coast won 63.5 percent of the 63 games.
• From 1995-2011, the West Coast has won 76.2 percent of the 21 Monday night games against East Coast teams.
• That is a 16-5 record: 8-2 (.800) on the road and 8-3 (.727) at home.

One of the three East Coast wins on the road came in a 2003 game between Miami and San Diego. That game actually was played in Arizona’s Sun Devil Stadium due to wildfires in California. The start time was 7:09 p.m. MST.

The lack of recent success for the West Coast teams has led to a decrease in their MNF appearances; hence the sample size is just 21 games for the last 17 seasons. The West Coast teams' 8-2 record on the road actually makes sense once you look at the 10 games.
• One game involved the 2005 Seahawks, who would reach the Super Bowl, against an overmatched Philadelphia team that was missing Donovan McNabb & Terrell Owens during a 6-10 season. Seattle won 42-0.
• Last year’s San Diego Chargers were clearly better than Jacksonville.
• The other eight games all involved the 49ers. San Francisco went 6-1 in seasons they made the playoffs, and 0-1 in a 1999 game in Atlanta. The 49ers finished 4-12 in 1999.
• Only three of the 10 games have been played in a season since 2000.
If one were to look at our nine Central teams against West Coast (Pacific) teams, then the Central team has a 12-5 record against the West Coast team on MNF since 1995. That includes a 6-4 record on the road, and 6-1 at home.

This also suggests we could use more data."

There's more I left out...

 

[Scottemojo]

Ninestar, There are rules to protect East coast teams from having to travel to the west coast too much in a single season. There are no rules to protect west coast teams playing too many games the opposite direction. You can argue number of teams, the fact remains that there are actual rules that create unequal circumstances for both the Niners and Seahawks. A rule that when West coast teams travel East the game is at 4 PM hardly be unfair considering that both our teams log crazy air miles compared to East coast teams.

 

[NINEster]

Ninestar, There are rules to protect East coast teams from having to travel to the west coast too much in a single season. There are no rules to protect west coast teams playing too many games the opposite direction. You can argue number of teams, the fact remains that there are actual rules that create unequal circumstances for both the Niners and Seahawks. A rule that when West coast teams travel East the game is at 4 PM hardly be unfair considering that both our teams log crazy air miles compared to East coast teams.

Agree.

I think the SF/TENN game @ 4pm is a concession for having to play in London the next week, otherwise it would probably be at 1.

 

[Scottemojo]

Ninestar, There are rules to protect East coast teams from having to travel to the west coast too much in a single season. There are no rules to protect west coast teams playing too many games the opposite direction. You can argue number of teams, the fact remains that there are actual rules that create unequal circumstances for both the Niners and Seahawks. A rule that when West coast teams travel East the game is at 4 PM hardly be unfair considering that both our teams log crazy air miles compared to East coast teams.

Agree.

I think the SF/TENN game @ 4pm is a concession for having to play in London the next week, otherwise it would probably be at 1.

Disagree. It's a concession that the Niners are popular and will bring ratings to that late slot.

 

[DTexHawk]

Disagree. It's a concession that the Niners are popular and will bring ratings to that late slot.

This is the reason of all reasons.