SoulfishHawk
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This team, imo, has more holes on the O Line, but either side, build it up.
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Who knows? Mock drafts have him all over, including #12 to Denver. In my view, he’s the most underrated QB in the whole group.
CactusJack
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If you move back to that range, you're not getting a 2nd round pick. Best case: You would receive a 3rd.
You'd have to move back to the mid 20's (pick 25/26) or later to grab a late 2nd based on trade charts. For that reason, I'm less sold on the idea. I would prefer to stick & pick. Get a real difference maker for the team.
Fautanu will be gone at 16. There are too many teams (Jets, Raiders, Saints) who need OL help.
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Verse, Murphy or newton
SoulfishHawk
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All it takes is one team that's desperate for a QB OR another player sitting there at 16. It's not out of the question to add a second by dropping down 4-10 spots.
I don't care about trade charts, if a GM wants a guy bad enough, they'll make it happen.
CactusJack
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You can wish it all you want, but It's not happening.
If you're picking in the mid-late 20's, the talent drop off is fairly significant. You're hoping someone falls to you. But it's unlikely.
The top OL prospects will fly off the board within the first 20 picks. All of the top tackles, including Graham Barton, will be gone at that point. Then you're essentially picking from the leftovers.
You want realistic? There you have it.
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SoulfishHawk
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But it COULD happen. That's all I'm saying. I didn't say it WOULD happen. If you just wanna' argue, I'm not the guy.
Not my jam these days.
Not my jam these days.
CactusJack
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IF they do end up trading back, you're going to be underwhelmed with the compensation. That's all I'm saying.
SoulfishHawk
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Here are some brutal trades. Anything can happen in the draft.
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Worst trades involving NFL draft picks
Robert Griffin III and Trent Richardson were the No. 2 and 3 overall picks in the 2012 NFL Draft. The teams that drafted each player thought so highly of their potential that they traded up in order to secure their services. On Monday, hours after RGIII
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Maelstrom787
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I think it'd be preferable to preemptively replace Taylor, and I can't count on Hall yet for quality depth as he's still an unknown.
Part of it isn't so much need, though, as it is me thinking that Verse is a talent worthy of potentially declining a trade down. Edge isn't first, second, or third on my list of needs - but I think this team needs premier talent pretty much anywhere right now, and Verse seems like the most likely available "blue chip" at 16.
With edge rushers, I pretty much always consider that spot a need. You can just never have too many.
To your point about Myles, though - I would like to see a big end. Perhaps a Brandon Dorlus or Marshawn Kneeland (Kneeland in specific I actually worry about as a classic Schneider "who the hell is that?" pick after a trade down)
SoulfishHawk
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This right here ^^^
You can never have too many pass rushers. Having a good rotation and keeping guys fresh and/or having depth for injuries is huge. Look at the pass rush after Nwosu went down.
You can never have too many pass rushers. Having a good rotation and keeping guys fresh and/or having depth for injuries is huge. Look at the pass rush after Nwosu went down.
CactusJack
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Byron Murphy will be the pick. That's my take.
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I'd be very happy with that pick. You?
SoulfishHawk
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Murphy or Fautanu, yes please. NONE of us can predict what's gonna' happen in the draft thru the 1st round. That's what makes it fun.
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Chawker
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D-Rob...D-Rob...D-Rob !!!
toffee
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More like we have Nwosu and Mafe, the other two aren't there yet
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Chawker
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Ok, i'll be the one who throws the bucket of cold water on you guys.
OUR biggest need from last year ??? Jeoardy music plays
RUN DEFENSE !!!!!!!!!!!!
Mac said, flexibility, run wall, setting a hard edge, we need another 3-4 DE.
Think about this. More jeopardy music....
Who is the perfect fit ?
Cheers
OUR biggest need from last year ??? Jeoardy music plays
RUN DEFENSE !!!!!!!!!!!!
Mac said, flexibility, run wall, setting a hard edge, we need another 3-4 DE.
Think about this. More jeopardy music....
Who is the perfect fit ?
Cheers
chris98251
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Well in a 3 - 4 the dynamics say your bread and butter are LB's, we have brought in guys for the line, yes a 360 pound nose tackle would be nice to clog the interior, not sure we will have a chance at one of those. But LB's that can inflict punishment and fear may be had, guys that can add a few pounds so we need a frame type that can become durable. Noticed a lot of guys this year that are LB's but smaller then Kam was. I think we target LB's and trade back if a QB we like isn't there at 16, and we can trade quite a ways back and get some picks added.
How do you figure that? We didn’t make the playoffs due to the D, not because of the OL. This team won’t be any better without drafting a lot of D. OL take 2-3 years to be a decent player. I’ll be pissed if we waste a top pick on another OL.
Draft Newton and get Sweat in the 3rd.
