You All Are Wrong Blaming Meyers Missed Kick for the Loss

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So a 72% completion rate from 60+ according to your stats and sample size.

There are young kickers coming into the league, with power, that can kick the ball with a straight-line trajectory, without the erratic curveballs that Myers kicks on a regular basis.

Myers is the 7th highest paid player on this team? Time for a young league minimum type with a big leg.
This is not a 72% completion rate. There isn’t enough data to solve this question. All we know is that in the last 2 years 11 kicks over 60 yards have been made by 8 different kickers. I think you got your 72% by dividing kickers by total kicks. We don’t actually know how many attempts there have been over 60. Hence the missing data point. I’m sure it’s way less than 72%!
 

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It's not just the younger kickers, it's the new rules about breaking in the balls. A number of kickers seem to be setting new personal bests as a result of not having to kick brand new balls. I'm wondering if Myers has changed his pre-game procedures like other kickers have. Personally, I never think it hurts for the incumbent kicker to have competition in training camp. If nothing else you get names you can call in case of an injury.
 

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There are young kickers coming into the league, with power, that can kick the ball with a straight-line trajectory, without the erratic curveballs that Myers kicks on a regular basis.
That's what gets me. Every kick that's not an extra point acts like a curve ball. I don't see any other kicker do this
 

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So a 72% completion rate from 60+ according to your stats and sample size.

There are young kickers coming into the league, with power, that can kick the ball with a straight-line trajectory, without the erratic curveballs that Myers kicks on a regular basis.

Myers is the 7th highest paid player on this team? Time for a young league minimum type with a big leg.

No. You would need to know how many attempts of greater than 60 yards there were to calculate that number. It’s probably higher because there are very few attempts from that distance.

Most kickers simply can’t hit these kicks, so don’t even try to. Only 8 active NFL kickers, around 20% of them, have connected from more than 60 yards, in the last two seasons, and they have only done it 11 times in total. That’s a quite rare talent.

Myers has connected for us from 60 yards, and he did it before the new kicking ball rules were in place, but it’s been several years. I suspect his strength is on the downward slope.

Distance is nice, but accuracy is far more important. Myers is currently the 10th most accurate active kicker, and the 21st most accurate kicker in the history of the NFL (Hauschka is 22nd BTW).

Of the active players who have kicked 60 plus yarders, only two (Aubrey at 90.385%, and Boswell at 87.915%) are more accurate than Myers at 85.231%.

Cam Little, the Jaguar who hit the 68 yarder, is 80%, good for 28th amongst active, and tied for 73rd all time.
 
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I don't blame Meyers at all he was 4-5 in the game, and a 61yd field goal is difficult to make even for a kicker with a bigger leg. I blame 4 INT's that should have never been thrown, and I don't blame the refs with calls. I blame 4 INT's that should have never been thrown... So to recap, I dont blame Meyers, I don't blame the Refs... I blame the 4 INT's that should have never been thrown, I mean if you have any reasoning skills at all then you're obvious answer to this loss is, The 4 INT's that should have never been thrown... and done!
 

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Wasn’t that FG from 61 yards? Any kicker will miss that most of the time.
 

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I'm not seeing very many people, if any at all, blaming Myers for the loss.

Meyers is not a guy that I expect to make it from 60+ yards. In my opinion, that distance is much closer to the "hope and a prayer" end of the spectrum, than the "I like his chances" end of the spectrum (for Meyers).
Kind of like blaming the QB for not completing the hail Mary
 

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He's capable of making that kick. He just shanked it. Starting at the 1 changed everything. That ball goes in the end zone, very likely a much shorter FG try.
 

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If offensive holding had not been called on K9's TD, which was called back, that miss would have not mattered and we would have won the game.
I never buy that argument. That opens up an entire alternate universe. Plays get called different on both sides. McVay if down late goes for it on 4th down instead of punting. Stuff like that. Can't say we would have won that game because we will truly never know.

Can't blame Myers for missing a 61 yarder, that's not his strength. 61 yards isn't a chip shot.

The 4 interceptions hurt and the perfect punt was what sealed the game. I blame the whole team for the loss. They played their hearts out but at the end of the day the Rams made more plays to win it.
 

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He's capable of making that kick. He just shanked it. Starting at the 1 changed everything. That ball goes in the end zone, very likely a much shorter FG try.
Scrape up an extra 10 seconds by operating with some alacrity and you probably get another ten yards on that closing drive.

I like Myers from 51 a whole lot better than 61.
 

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People acting like 60-yard kicks and kickers are a dime a dozen, but here are the real stats on 60-yard or more kicks in the last year and a half.

Only 11 kicks of 60 yards or more have been made in 2024, and 2025, and only 8 kickers have made them.

Myers made a 61 yarder in 2020.



60 yards - 2025 Boswell (Steelers) 2024 Aubrey (Cowboys)

61 yards - 2025 Havrisik (Packers), Aubrey (Cowboys) 2024 Bass (Bills)

62 yards - 2025 Reichard (Vikings) 2024 Nobody

63 yards - 2025 None 2024 Slye (Patriots)

64 yards - 2025 Aubrey (Cowboys) 2024 None

65 yards - 2025 McLaughlin (Buccaneers) 2024 Aubrey (Cowboys)

68 yards - 2025 Little (Jaguars) 2024 Nobody
How many way-shorter ones did they miss, like Meyers regularly does? He can't make the short ones, and also misses the long ones.
 

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How many way-shorter ones did they miss, like Meyers regularly does? He can't make the short ones, and also misses the long ones.

I think this idea comes from his 2021 season, which was a real let down, and an outlier. To me, the data doesn't support the frequently mentioned belief.


2025 20-29 yds 4/4, 30-39 yds 6/7, 40-49 yds 6/7, 50+ 5/8
2024 20-29 yds 4/4, 30-39 yds 6/6, 40-49 yds 7/8, 50+ 9/12
2023 20-29 yds 8/8, 30-39 yds 11/12, 40-49 yds 12/14, 50+ 4/8
2022 20-29 yds 9/9, 30-39 yds 15/16, 40-49 yds 4/6, 50+ 6/6
2021 20-29 yds 2/2, 30-39 yds 9/11, 40-49 yds 3/5, 50+ 3/5
2020 20-29 yds 2/2, 30-39 yds 7/7, 40-49 yds 13/13, 50+ 2/2

Net 20-29 yds 29/29, 30-39 yds 54/59 92%, 40-49 yds 45/53 85%, 50+ 29/41 71%

I'm certainly not claiming that his end isn't approaching. I had my eye on one kicker coming out of the UFL, Harrison Mevis, but the Rams look to be locking him down. We could poach him off their practice squad in the next week or two, but it looks like he is going to be permanently on their active roster, very soon. They can only elevate him one more time.

Another potential is Matt Coghlin, and he is available. I haven't looked to see what's coming out of college next year.

I wouldn't want to change horses in the middle of the season, as Myers has been having a great season, but we could save around 3 million in cap space to switch in the offseason.
 

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Your not gonna beat the Rams kicking feild goals. We should have been more aggressive like mcvay.
 
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