WTF was that?

[Hawkinaz]

On the last interception the play called for an out pattern by the WR, Metcalf ran a lazy curl that was a main stay in the Rams offense when Mike Martz was the OC

Metcalf was never a good route runner but the last play was bad, the ball is in the air before the WR makes the cut. I wonder if there is something going on between Metcalf and Smith

 

[SonicHawk]

Yup.

What about the multiple drops by the seahawks defense, are those ints too?

 

[DarkVictory23]

Yeah, Geno makes too many mistakes.

But DK, man I dunno. All the talent in the world but you can't rely on him not to switch off in big mistakes.
I feel bad for Geno on that one play because DK hung him out to dry, but Geno is a vet so he can handle it. I dunno how a rookie QB would handle stuff like that, or how a QB can ever trust going to DK in big moments on anything other than a sideline jump ball.

DK did it twice this game.

It's the knock (in addition to bad hands) that keeps him out of the elite tier of WRs.

But! We've run plenty of 2 minute drills that featured DK heavily and were successful. He made some serious big boy catches this game.

I guess you just have to take the bad with the good... and remember this when his agent starts contract negotiations.

 

[SonicHawk]

DK did it twice this game.

It's the knock (in addition to bad hands) that keeps him out of the elite tier of WRs.

But! We've run plenty of 2 minute drills that featured DK heavily and were successful. He made some serious big boy catches this game.

I guess you just have to take the bad with the good... and remember this when his agent starts contract negotiations.

DK is elite when he is, he’s unplayable at other times. I wish I could figure it out.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Yeah, Geno makes too many mistakes.

But DK, man I dunno. All the talent in the world but you can't rely on him not to switch off in big mistakes.
I feel bad for Geno on that one play because DK hung him out to dry, but Geno is a vet so he can handle it. I dunno how a rookie QB would handle stuff like that, or how a QB can ever trust going to DK in big moments on anything other than a sideline jump ball.

You make a point. Me and Murph have been making the DK lazy effort/route running/etc argument since week 4 of last season.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

What about the multiple drops by the seahawks defense, are those ints too?

Sure are - 2 stand out to me!

 

[BGHawk]

I agree DK's route was hot garbage there - but It's also kind of weird that every wrong reciever route ends with a Geno INT.

Right..but it's Geno's only option.. apparently there are no other open receivers..ever!

 

[DarkVictory23]

Right..but it's Geno's only option.. apparently there are no other open receivers..ever!

I'm confused as to what you expect here, though. DK is open if he plays that route properly. Why should Geno pass on that read?

I mean, if we're saying that Geno shouldn't throw to DK even if he's open, then why do we even put him on the field?

 

[BGHawk]

I'm confused as to what you expect here, though. DK is open if he plays that route properly. Why should Geno pass on that read?

I mean, if we're saying that Geno shouldn't throw to DK even if he's open, then why do we even put him on the field?

I responded to the post saying DKs route was hot garbage..if he's not in position..then DONT throw there. Maybe choose a check down receiver or throw it away. But maybe that's to much for Geno to understand.

 

[DarkVictory23]

I responded to the post saying DKs route was hot garbage..if he's not in position..then DONT throw there. Maybe choose a check down receiver or throw it away. But maybe that's to much for Geno to understand.

The garbage part of his route occurs after Geno makes the read and throw.

It's a timing route. He can’t wait to see DK make the proper cut because the opportunity is gone by then.

 

[BGHawk]

The garbage part of his route occurs after Geno makes the read and throw.

It's a timing route. He can’t wait to see DK make the proper cut because the opportunity is gone by then.

True..it just seems that neither one can get on the same page. Once in a blue moon they make the connection. Not sure what the answer is, but I do know Geno is NOT the guy

 

[onanygivensunday]

Not sure what the answer is, but I do know Geno is NOT the guy

We've seen the best of Geno and we've seen the worst of Geno... and unfortunately, the worst of Geno costs the team possessions that most days cannot be overcome. Simply put, he costs us games... like today.

 

[IndyHawk]

Fair point. Trying to go 91 yards in 55 seconds is always going to have some risk. JSN or Tyler would have been better bets. If DK did that route as drawn up, it's 20+ yards and clock stops. No risk it no biscuit, too much risk it, no biscuit either.

We didn't need 91 for a FG.

 

[HawkFreak]

It's because it's a timing thing. These are the things you do in a 2-minute drill. The advantage for the offense is that we can hit these spots before the defense knows what we're doing.

But it's also an exaggeration to say every INT is on that. The first INT wasn't.

I understand the timing thing.
You misunderstood the INT comment.
Why don't Geno's passes to relievers running wrong routes ever just innocently fall to the ground like other QBs? His always seem to get picked.

 

[HawkFreak]

I'm confused as to what you expect here, though. DK is open if he plays that route properly. Why should Geno pass on that read?

I mean, if we're saying that Geno shouldn't throw to DK even if he's open, then why do we even put him on the field?

Except DK wasn't open. Geno was hoping he would be open. DK is not a reliable timing route runner. Why would Geno trust him in that situation.

 

[ccla]

Except DK wasn't open. Geno was hoping he would be open. DK is not a reliable timing route runner. Why would Geno trust him in that situation.

This x100. I mean he could be excused if it is in the middle of the game when there is another set on downs to play, but why trust him with the game on the line and no chance to get another go?

 

[DarkVictory23]

Except DK wasn't open. Geno was hoping he would be open. DK is not a reliable timing route runner. Why would Geno trust him in that situation.

On a timing route, if him getting to the spot will work, then that's open.

This x100. I mean he could be excused if it is in the middle of the game when there is another set on downs to play, but why trust him with the game on the line and no chance to get another go?

I mean, he's our #1 WR. If the plan is to never trust our #1 WR in game deciding situations, then what are we even doing here?

As the Seahawks starter, Geno has led 11 game winning drives in the fourth quarter and DK has caught passes on most of them, for a total of 13 receptions on those drives. (And this is forgetting about the fantastic work that DK put in on that GWD for Drew Lock against Philly.)

What happened in this game sucked, but are we seriously at the point where we're like 'Why is our QB throwing balls to our #1 WR?'

 

[HawkFreak]

On a timing route, if him getting to the spot will work, then that's open.


I mean, he's our #1 WR. If the plan is to never trust our #1 WR in game deciding situations, then what are we even doing here?

As the Seahawks starter, Geno has led 11 game winning drives in the fourth quarter and DK has caught passes on most of them, for a total of 13 receptions on those drives. (And this is forgetting about the fantastic work that DK put in on that GWD for Drew Lock against Philly.)

What happened in this game sucked, but are we seriously at the point where we're like 'Why is our QB throwing balls to our #1 WR?'

If the receiver runs the correct route then ok. But apparently DK did not make it to the correct spot to be open.

And yes....I think it's appropriate to question throwing to DK in that spot if after how many years he can't run a correct timing route.