Marvin49":1w38dqd2 said:
Vancanhawksfan":1w38dqd2 said:
Marvin49":1w38dqd2 said:
That article is a joke. Lol.
"If you read between the lines". That's comical. That's the writer using creative license to tell the story he wants to tell.
Hayne isn't a good NFL running back right now. 49ers just lost their #1 RB for possibly upwards of a month. They need a back with experience so they activated one from the practice squad and released the one with little experience in the homes if signing him to the practice squad. That stuff happens every single day during the season. The only diff is this guy is famous for playing another sport. That's it. He's not a good position player right now. I said that BEFORE he was released.
I gotta tell ya...the reactions to Hayne being released are the reasons why even I can't stand Niner fans sometimes.
He looked pretty good in preseason. Obviously he needs some coaching but to say he's not a good running back right now sounds like you're completely dismissing what he's shown - both in production and potential
If you think he's looked good as a RB then you don't know what you're watching or you aren't really watching.
The dude runs WAY, WAY to high. He tries to get lower, but it's totally unnatural. He hesitates to find his lane and isn't smooth by any stretch. He's obviously thinking too much...which is to be expected of a guy who is just learning to play the game. He had some long runs in the preseason, but they were through holes you could drive a tank through.
To give him credit, there are some things he does well. He's very good at making the first man miss despite appearing to be a bit slow footed (lack of lateral speed). He is pretty good when he can get into the open field, tho not a burner.
If you can get him in open spaces, he's a threat. The problem is that doesn't happen all that much as a RB unless you can get through the LOS. As a returner tho, he was/is much more likely to find those spaces and that's why I think he may have a future there.
Its possible that with another year of coaching he can be a much better RB. The guy is an athlete...but he ain't there right now.
I keep reading (particularly from people from Australia) how the Niners disrespected him and how he should go to a team that appreciates him. That's freakin ludicrous. He's competing against guys who have been playing RB their entire lives. Thinking he's been disrespected because they want to move him to their practice squad is disrespectful to al the men who have been working at it all their lives.
Way to be totally condescending. There are LOTS of running backs who have done outstanding work running in an upright fashion. Eric Dickerson was one...geezus, not everyone runs like Barry Sanders. Seattle fans will be very familiar with an upright runner that produced very well here which is Shaun Alexander. Hayne reminds me alot of him except that Hayne would be a far tougher version of Alexander - Hayne HATES running out of bounds (if you've seen his highlights you will see times where he is heading to the sideline with players in pursuit, and then right at the sideline stops, turns infield and tries to truck the tacklers without being forced out of bounds. I love that). Hayne is a slippery, elusive big man who always makes the first guy miss and moves much faster than he appears to be. He doesn't dip, cut and jitterbug as much as he will make one juke and then slide through the space.
Guys like you are all worried that his upright style leaves him open to getting smashed. The problem is that he's proving that he seems to be just fine taking the hits - and for the most part he eludes the big hits. And when he goes into a tackle he does manage to get his pad level low before contact. So what really is your problem here then if his production is there? In the few opportunities he's had he has demonstrated that he can power through tacklers as well like he did against the Cardinals on his 8 yard red zone run and in the goal line drills in pre-season against the 49ers 1st string defense.
And don't forget...SF runs in a zone blocking scheme. He was being trained to pause and allow a hole to open up before running straight into the line of scrimmage. I think guys like you would argue that his production comes from great big gaping holes that anyone could run through when I think its because he allows holes to open up before he dives right in. That SF line is absolutely horrific...of course he's not going to dive straight in if there's nothing there. Every other running back not named Hyde in that organization is averaging less than 2 yds/carry.
Guys like you are more worried that he's only shown brilliance in preseason against "2nd stringers and guys that get cut and are no longer in the league". THE GUY HAD NEVER STRAPPED ON PADS AND A HELMET IN HIS LIFE, AND IN HIS FIRST GAME OF ORGANIZED FOOTBALL AT ANY LEVEL HE IS RIPPING IT UP AGAINST PROFESSIONALS. Would you rather that he had a resume and massive statistics running against teenage children in schools like Appalachian State, Vanderbilt and the University of Miami, Ohio before you recognize a guy's potential?!?! It always blows me away when people say "it was only preseason"?!?! He was running up his stats against grown me - NFL professionals...not your cousin and chumps who went to your alma mater!! Yet fans are always ready to give the keys to the city to kids who have played for only 2 years running up gaudy statistics at a college level against...other children?!?! Boggles my mind.
Did he look polished? No, of course not. Did he miss a block? Yeah...he might have missed one or two. But you can look at every play ever run in the NFL and find players that miss a block on each down. So why is he getting picked on when he misses one? (because he's the guy that's never played...easy scapegoat)
Of course he still needs to learn. But he produced, and in the end that is the main thing that matters. And he did it without knowing jack sh1t and walking into a massive cluster@#$@ of a situation in SF where no one knows what they are doing from the front office to the coaching staff to the horrific offensive line that can't block their way through a soggy paper bag.
"Don't know what I'm watching"?!?! GTFO. I'd trust Roger Craig and Ricky Watter's opinions - guys that are screaming for the 49ers to let Hayne play more - than you. I'd bet that they know what their watching.
