Which NFL Team is most dysfunctional

[chris98251]

Just was thinking how thankful we should be here that were not one of the teams on that list, then wondered what team every thought might be the worst. Remember you have to look at big picture with the teams here, each has it's own reason and duration of issues.

I chose Dallas, Jerry is going the way of Al Davis in his later years and doesn't recognise his own disfunction. At least Snyder has resigned himself to being more in the background, Vikings have been on the cusp of breakdown but just seem to keep enough sense in house to look like they can maybe be repaired. Browns well thats hard to say, they looked like they were doing something and then blew it all up again, history wise it's been a ravaged franchise and fan base. Dolphins is a recent meltdown mess relativly speaking, just real bad recently. Oakland is in recovery mode for the last decade of Al Davis leadership.

Dallas has stayed close becasue Jerry buys the best coaches he can find, just even they can't polish a turd when Jerry over pays and drafts guys that may not fit the system the coaches want to run. Then fires them before they can get a unit fixed.

 

[Hawkspur]

I voted Dolphins. The ownership structure is a mess. Nobody wanted a bar of their GM position, supposedly as they are subordinate to the coach, who appears to be either clueless or incompetent. They've committed a stackload of guaranteed money to mediocre free agents and they get small crowds.

 

[SeatownJay]

It's Cleveland for me.

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

Yeah, I went with Cleveland too. This new owner seems to really go out of his way not to get it. As far as the other teams go, the Raiders seem like they *might* be on the mend. The Cowboys and DC are definitely clown shows, but at least they've been getting to the playoffs. The Vikings seem clumsy, but at least on the verge of doing something. That only leaves the Dolphins, who admittedly look pretty bad right now -- just not as bad as Cleveland. Talk about a fanbase that deserves better.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

I would say Jimmy Haslam is the worst owner out of those teams, so I'll choose the Browns. Jerry Jones and Stephen Ross are tied for second-worst, but if Jerry Jones would just let someone with some sense GM his team, instantly that franchise would be better off. Daniel Snyder obviously needs to stop meddling too.

I actually think Oakland should be fine if they let Reggie McKenzie put in some work. He cleared all that dead weight off the cap; now, should he draft well, he can sprinkle in some quality veterans and be competitive in a just-above-mediocre AFCW (yeah, I know, three teams made the playoffs, but KC is a mirage). Just don't fire Dennis Allen yet; wait to see what he does with the players under his watch. I do think, however, Allen really messed up the evaluations of Pryor/McGloin by splitting the difference and not really seeing for sure what he had in either guy, so if he goes after this year, it also won't be the most terrible thing in the world.

 

[chris98251]

You say if Jerry would just let someone else GM, thats been the whole problem he won't, much like Davis he has lost his ability, never really thought he had it though, at least Al did.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Yeah, Al's excuse is that he got old and senile. Jerry's excuse is that he doesn't have one except for his ego. You would think a successful businessperson would know that the key to success is hiring the best advisers to do the things that the businessman can't do.

 

[Happy]

Interesting thing about Dallas and Washington is although the owners might seems like fools who chronically mismanage their teams, invariably they're at the top of the heap when it comes to profitability. Jerruh and and Synder are practically minting money. I don't think they're as incompetent as they look, more a matter of priorities I reckon.

 

[kearly]

I actually don't think Cleveland is all that dysfunctional anymore. The dysfunction originated primarily from Lombardi, and he's gone now. Their new GM was considered to be a rising star and Pettine has a very impressive (if brief) resume. Maybe I am a closet Browns fan though because I have been talking them up for years.

Likewise, with the Dolphins I don't think a locker room perfect storm is necessarily a sign of franchise-wide dysfunction by itself. Ireland had some issues, so did Mike Sherman, but both were let go in January.

Reggie McKenzie is doing a solid job in Oakland. Yes, the Raiders suck, but McKenzie has orchestrated what has to be the biggest cap turnaround in NFL history. I also think it's pretty dumb to count out any GM from the Ron Wolf / Ted Thompson GM tree. The Raiders head coach does seem... under-qualified and lacking in leadership though.

I think Minnesota is a pretty typical NFL franchise. They are like the NFC's Tennessee Titans in that they are never as good as they are in the good seasons, never as bad in the bad seasons.

For me it's a toss up between Dallas and Washington. Dallas has terrific resources and has done a very underrated job of acquiring talent, but they are still one of the league's biggest under-achieving teams every season thanks to an owner who only hires weak, "yes man" type coaches. Dallas has, by talent, a top 10-ish QB, a top 10 RB, a top 10 WR, a top 10 TE, a top 5 LT, a top 10 pass rusher, a top 10 MLB, and some very talented players in the secondary who aren't producing. Give Pete Carroll ONE offseason of control and Dallas is a 11-12 win team in the NFC East. Dallas is dysfunctional not because they are terrible, but because they could be a major force and they just aren't because the finer aspects of management and coaching are so lacking.

At least with Jerrah, you can't accuse him of being a cheapskate. He went out and got his team one of the more expensive and impressive home field venues in all of pro sports. Meanwhile Dan Snyder, who's team is also insanely profitable, still has his brittle QB that he sold the farm for playing on the NFL's very worst field. Even Jerry Jones thinks Snyder is a dumbass. The Redskins hiring of Jay Gruden looked a bit desperate and has been deemed to be a poor fit for the existing talent, so I could see the Redskins dysfunction actually increasing in 2014.

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

Hehe... kearly you are on the verge of talking me out of my pick! Snyder's been so bad for so long and the absurd, short-sighted cheapness on the field makes no sense from any kind of long-term perspective. Maybe some of us are looking too close at the recent spate of Browns hirings/firings and not remembering just how horrible Snyder's been.

 

[The Radish]

"For me it's a toss up between Dallas and Washington. Dallas has terrific resources and has done a very underrated job of acquiring talent, but they are still one of the league's biggest under-achieving teams every season thanks to an owner who only hires weak, "yes man" type coaches. Dallas has, by talent, a top 10-ish QB, a top 10 RB, a top 10 WR, a top 10 TE, a top 5 LT, a top 10 pass rusher, a top 10 MLB, and some very talented players in the secondary who aren't producing. Give Pete Carroll ONE offseason of control and Dallas is a 11-12 win team in the NFC East. Dallas is dysfunctional not because they are terrible, but because they could be a major force and they just aren't because the finer aspects of management and coaching are so lacking.

At least with Jerrah, you can't accuse him of being a cheapskate. He went out and got his team one of the more expensive and impressive home field venues in all of pro sports. Meanwhile Dan Snyder, who's team is also insanely profitable, still has his brittle QB that he sold the farm for playing on the NFL's very worst field. Even Jerry Jones thinks Snyder is a dumbass. The Redskins hiring of Jay Gruden looked a bit desperate and has been deemed to be a poor fit for the existing talent, so I could see the Redskins dysfunction actually

increasing in 2014."



Boy its a red letter day when Kearly agrees with me right down the line. lol

As I was reading the posts I'm thinking about the teams that seem to have the parts or could but screw it up and that seemed to be "Skins" & "Boys" to me.


Jones spends $70 million bucks on a pretty good QB and as I've said before spends $7 on the rest of the team.

Snyder gets a really good QB but refuses to put him in a position to excell.

Its really to bad.

Thanks Kip, I know when I agree with you that its one of the few times I've paid attention.

:th2thumbs:

p.s. Thank God we have a coach that puts his players in a position to succeed. I loved Mike Holmgren for how he helped the team but he is the kind of coach that gets players to fit his system.

So we've seen it both way and both teams got to a SuperB owl.

Those other 2 guys just grab randomly and throw players into whatever spot is open.

 

[Largent80]

Tie...Cleveland / Washington

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Miami and Cleveland, no contest.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Tie: Dullass and the Racistnicknames. Since I could only vote for one I went with D.C. based on the things kearly already outlined.

 

[Chi-Hawkman]

I voted for the Redskins. A franchise QB, and an owner throwing money around like candy, and idiots coaching and running the team, has to be the most dysfunctional team in the NFL, if not in all of sports...

 

[uncle fester]

I have to vote Dallas.

The ceiling of mediocrity will never be broken in Jerry World because of an abject refusal to admit that there is anything wrong to begin with.

With all the other franchises mentioned, people can be fired tomorrow. Jerry will never step down. Which means a long, slow repeat of what happened in Oakland.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

Before voting I read all of what you all had to say/type. I still went with the Browns. Reason is they hired a coach and fired him in one year. He was not given the opportunity to succeed at all. One year is not enough for a coach to place his parts in position to win.
That being said, Jerrah is the runner up in a bad way. He is like Davis and only sees what he wants in the mirror whether it is the wicked witch or not. He may make a lot of money, but his fanbase is starting to fade a little with his own ineptness. Hire a manager and let him do his job.

 

[Sarlacc83]

Interesting thing about Dallas and Washington is although the owners might seems like fools who chronically mismanage their teams, invariably they're at the top of the heap when it comes to profitability. Jerruh and and Synder are practically minting money. I don't think they're as incompetent as they look, more a matter of priorities I reckon.

Is it that they're doing something right, or is that the fanbases are halfway to delusional and will support the team financially no matter what? Snyder hasn't exactly shown business acumen during his career.

 

[Happy]

Interesting thing about Dallas and Washington is although the owners might seems like fools who chronically mismanage their teams, invariably they're at the top of the heap when it comes to profitability. Jerruh and and Synder are practically minting money. I don't think they're as incompetent as they look, more a matter of priorities I reckon.

Is it that they're doing something right, or is that the fanbases are halfway to delusional and will support the team financially no matter what? Snyder hasn't exactly shown business acumen during his career.

I beg to differ on the bolded part. If there's one thing snyder knows how to do and does at a world class level, it's make money. He's also a genius at marketing. Look at how he creates hype around certain players. He's made a ton of money off of RG3 already.

My theory is making money and fielding a winning franchise are two different things. Snyder has been rubbing his nuts on the faces of the redskins fans for years and years and while they might bitch about it on talk radio, they sill buy the merchandise and they buy the season tickets, and he keeps raking in the dollars and laughing all the way to the bank.

would snyder like to field a winning team? I'm sure he does, in the worst way. But he knows how to make money a certain way and it doesn't seem compatible with winning football.

 

[RolandDeschain]

I literally can't figure out which option to choose. This is a tough one. I'm thinking Oakland, because they're still being idiots well after the demise of Al Davis.