Which is more frustrating?

Woolen or the refs?

  • Refs

    Votes: 2 4.4%
  • Woolen

    Votes: 37 82.2%
  • The piss me off equally

    Votes: 6 13.3%

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Frank12

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Woolen, Just because it feels like in every game there's that WTF? moment with him, and I can't believe he can't fix those moments if he can't fix it that means every team will test him in those situations...
 

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people keep talking about how great Spoon is but I just don't see it
I'm right there with you. I don't care what anybody says, he was suspect last season, and was suspect in the first game. Suspect coverage, suspect tackling, takes horrible angles like he did on AZs touchdown to the back, and then missed the tackle. He plays with a veracity no doubt, but I think he's too small to play that type of ball and it hurts him at times.

Woolen is just straight soft, and plays scared. He's a liability and needs to take his place on the bench.
 
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Yeah well....so I overreacted, okay?
Hey, it's "OVERREACTION MONDAY". I'll allow it.

(As if I had any authority to allow or disallow anything, but hey, moral support is every bit as good as a moral victory, right?)

That said, I'll take the actual victory and a celebratory shot, with my recent-seasons-suffering Pats fan housemate. Maybe I can turn him Hawk fan after several shots? Thunderbird is the closest bird-theme liquor I can think of for a shot, any other harder, 80 proof, bird-of-prey themed liquor recommendations?
 

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Woolen, Just because it feels like in every game there's that WTF? moment with him, and I can't believe he can't fix those moments if he can't fix it that means every team will test him in those situations...
Teams will definitely see if they can get a 50-yard DPI off him. Dude's a liability.
 

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Woolen pisses me off. Kubiak had a couple calls I didn’t like, the 4th down, and he needs to run Charbonett up the middle at least his first 3 to 4 runs, then when they stuff the middle then bounce him outside, but he is best going N and S
 

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#1 Woolen
#2 Spoon
#3 Kubiak
#4 Oline

#1 Woolen sucks, period. Nuff said.

#2 Spoon is not as good as some folks hype him to be around here. I know I'll get flamed for this, but I've seen it game after game, this is going back all the way to his first year. Yes he's good, yes he'll give you some splash plays here and there, but he's not the superstar some of this fanbase and national media make him out to be. Personally, I think Jobe is better right now. My opinion it should be Jobe and Kendricks on the outside, Spoon in the nickle. I actually think he'd make a better safety, but he's too small for that.

#3 Kubiak is too vanilla and too predictable in his play calling. Running three times into a stacked box for 3 yards from your 40 when you need at least 3 points is infuriating. Running on damn near every first down into a stacked box is infuriating. But that's K-9s fault right? Right. Some folks crack me up.

#4 The OLine , especially right guard need to run block better. Pass pro was decent at times, but the run blocking was not good over all.

All this being said, the refs missed some crucial calls that took points off the board, but we didn't do ourselves any favors with penalties. The walker penalty took points off the ball, the JSN ghost penalty took points off the board. Woolens multiple penalties put points on the board for AZ. Lot of room for improvement in the secondary.

As far as K-9. They were playing the run all night, too many stacked boxes, running backs had nowhere to run.

They were successful when they were passing the ball to the tight ends and the backs. Why they didnt stick with that and back those LBs out of the box more is beyond me. to say K-9 was bad is ridiculous, he had no holes, when he did, he hit them hard and got decent yardage. There were several times he made something out of nothing as he always does.
 
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James in PA

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Woolen is #1 on my gripe list for sure.

Refs were ass. Spoon didn't have a good game. Gonna chalk it up to injury.

Why aren't we doing our variation of the tush push each and every time on 3rd or 4th and 1? Makes no sense to me. I was having PTSD on that failed 4th down attempt with the RB.
 

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For a 5th-overall pick, I expect more from Spoon. He's been solid, but not shutdown nor dominate, as you would expect from a 5th-overall pick.
 

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For a 5th-overall pick, I expect more from Spoon. He's been solid, but not shutdown nor dominate, as you would expect from a 5th-overall pick.
Sadly, I gave to agree either this. Despite last night, he's a very good player. But at #5 overall, he needs to be elite. Otherwise, you don't draft a corner that high.
 

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