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I don't care if you paid for your ticket. It does not give you the right to throw trash at an NFL player.
Agreed. It was classless by those fans. As was al the other crap, from the diving durng the kneel, the fighting on both sides, the insults as people were walking out, etc.hawksbydesign":1zgotg5n said:I don't care if you paid for your ticket. It does not give you the right to throw trash at an NFL player.
Chapow":mxrhhoyj said:It sounds like at least 4 different Seahawks had food/drinks thrown at them from the stands, 3 of them before this incident, and that is only what we have heard about so far, less than 24 hours after the game. I wonder how much other crap went on that we haven't heard about?
I am absolutely NOT defending what the Seahawks did at the end of the game, especially Bennett, but I can certainly understand why they were so pissed off.
Yep.....And it's not "Resorting To Cheap Shots" it's >RETURNING< the favor for dirty play tactics all game long by the Jags, and sanctioned by their Coaches.stang233":1g6js66l said:I actually disagree. The chances are slim but the qb can fumble the snap. I say hit the center as hard as you can
sutz":qf6ng3sy said:Pete should have called that last time out instead of running out onto the field. Should have gathered the team together and got all up in their faces about the proper way to handle the situation. Maybe even subbing every player and replacing them with anybody just for that last kneel down.
The whole situation was ugly and the coaches mis-handled it.
oldhawkfan":2j40ap6a said:The game isn't over til its over. The Center and QB could easily mess up the exchange.
Popeyejones":b7atedj0 said:oldhawkfan":b7atedj0 said:The game isn't over til its over. The Center and QB could easily mess up the exchange.
I think you're correctly addressing one problem with this argument (i.e. that's not how anyone actually plays the game), but the other problem with this argument in this situation is that the Hawks had already conceded the game.
They still had a timeout and were just letting the clock run through the victory formation. If they were trying to still compete they would have used their timeout. Instead, they were just being sore losers/trying to hurt someone a la the Falcons game and Pats game. You don't dive into an unprepared person's legs both during and again after the play as a form of competition.
oldhawkfan":3fusllxi said:The victory formation has not always been a part of the NFL or even football at any level for that matter. Just google Joe Pisarcik if you aren't sure what I am talking about. The game isn't over until the last second has ticked off the board or you no longer have to snap the ball because the play clock has more time than the game clock. The argument can be made and is made that the unwritten rule is that the game is over and you fairly concede the game to the other team. Technically though, the game is still being played and yes, there is a chance to get the ball back. This is why the victory formation is tight with all players bunched up around the ball except for a player a few yards behind the QB as a safety valve. The defensive team, by all rights within the rules can still try to get the ball back. The offense at this point is essentially playing defense of protecting the ball.
The NFL could just put in a rule that automatically ends the game when an offense is able to use the victory formation. If its an unwritten rule then maybe they should. If an opposing team gets their feelings hurt because a team is still competing to the end, then that is on them. Go hard and compete until the end, but keep the dirty illegal crap out of there. I'm not sure what Bennett hoped to gain by rolling himself into the o-lineman but if he had tried a bullrush would it possibly been more effective?
The game isn't over til its over. The Center and QB could easily mess up the exchange.
You cannot possibly be serious. Watch a replay of the incident. By the time Bennett rolled into the center the play was long over. This was not an "attempt to mess up the snap", this was a blatantly dirty play a full 3-4 seconds after the play ended. This is not even remotely defensible (neither is the center provoking Bennett, but that does not warrant this level of retaliation). I am seriously in disbelief that there are people in this topic defending this.hawknation2017":1k9b82zp said:Nothing Bennett did was dangerous. Offensive lineman use cut blocks all the time. Bennett was trying to mess up the snap in a last ditch effort because he is a competitor. The center was not hurt; though maybe he should have been after grabbing another man's junk.
JimmyG":2hl4zdfp said:You cannot possibly be serious. Watch a replay of the incident. By the time Bennett rolled into the center the play was long over. This was not an "attempt to mess up the snap", this was a blatantly dirty play a full 3-4 seconds after the play ended. This is not even remotely defensible (neither is the center provoking Bennett, but that does not warrant this level of retaliation). I am seriously in disbelief that there are people in this topic defending this.hawknation2017":2hl4zdfp said:Nothing Bennett did was dangerous. Offensive lineman use cut blocks all the time. Bennett was trying to mess up the snap in a last ditch effort because he is a competitor. The center was not hurt; though maybe he should have been after grabbing another man's junk.
hawknation2017":2m98qgny said:Carroll made clear during his interview today that Bennett was trying to disrupt the snap . . . and then things happened.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/940275372184276995[/tweet]
kidhawk":1c4dmtnf said:hawknation2017":1c4dmtnf said:Carroll made clear during his interview today that Bennett was trying to disrupt the snap . . . and then things happened.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/940275372184276995[/tweet]
And I don't have any issue with that. If you're within one score, you should be trying to get the ball back. What happened after the play ended though was a bit much....not suspension worthy, but definitely earned the penalty he got.
I am referring to the "junk grab" and beyond. I thought Bennett, at the scuffle at the end of the play, took out the center from behind by rolling into him. I could be wrong, it is hard to fully see what happened because the view of the altercation is somewhat clipped in the replays.hawknation2017":3fa7262v said:The center grabbing Bennett's junk occurred after the whistle, as well as the rest of the melee that ensued.
JimmyG":ubj6ge03 said:I am referring to the "junk grab" and beyond. I thought Bennett, at the scuffle at the end of the play, took out the center from behind by rolling into him. I could be wrong, it is hard to fully see what happened because the view of the altercation is somewhat clipped in the replays.hawknation2017":ubj6ge03 said:The center grabbing Bennett's junk occurred after the whistle, as well as the rest of the melee that ensued.