What if Bevell is playing the long con?

[Cartire]

It occurred to me earlier that with all the hate on Bevells play calling, we may not be looking at the bigger picture. Last year, the playbook opened up for Russell after mid season. It was all under the assumption that this was done to ease him into the system. It worked great in the end because of our obvious offensive explosion. But there was more to it then that. Teams had a harder time scheming against us because we weren't showcasing the same stuff we did earlier in the season. Studying game film wasn't as easy for coaches, because the prior stuff wasn't as relevant.

We're 7-1 right now under a very pedestrian game plan the first 8 weeks. Everyone is calling for Bevells job, but this could easily be the plan all along. I know the mantra is one game at a time, but let's be honest here, looking ahead isn't a bad thing. Not playing all your cards can really help in the long run.

Case in point. Texans running almost the exact same plays every time they are in the same situations. Why we practiced the same bootleg play, and why we were able to counter it with a pick six.

I've been weary of the play calling myself. And I'm not saying he's perfect, but I wouldn't be surprised if down the stretch, things start "opening up" again.

And hell, we're 7-1 during this vanilla time.

 

[RolandDeschain]

I highly doubt it, since if this was a long con, it could very easily result in us being a wild card in the playoffs.

He'll probably open things up more once we have our tackles back and Percy on the field, but it will not have changed his stubborn refusal to adjust in many critical moments to date thus far in the 2013 season.

 

[Cartire]

I highly doubt it, since if this was a long con, it could very easily result in us being a wild card in the playoffs.

He'll probably open things up more once we have our tackles back and Percy on the field, but it will not have changed his stubborn refusal to adjust in many critical moments to date thus far in the 2013 season.

Anything can happen any day. And just saying you can adjust to win isn't taking everything into account. If we can adjust, why can't other teams adjust as well?

Mondays game was bad, but you can't discount all the other games where play calling was great. We've had plenty of great play calling games this year.

Not to mention, a play is only bad when it doesn't work. The eleven guys on the field have to win their match ups every play as well. It's not always gonna happen. As much as everyone wants to assume this is just a chess match, it's not. Sometimes your piece is gonna lose regardless if it was the right call.

 

[Reaneypark]

The Uncle Milty strategy?

Perhaps, but I think it has more to do with injuries than anything.

 

[Hawknballs]

wishful thinking but this is the NFL. Every game counts and every game is hard. So no.

 

[Cartire]

Also, according to PC on a radio interview, the Russell boots on the goaline were RW's call. One play was designed for beast and RW changed it. The other was a read option, and Russell kept it. I was screaming for beast on both those as well and thought Bevell was mad. But apparently it was RW that Mae those decisions.

 

[HawkFan72]

Let's just say that I HOPE he's pulling a long con.

 

[bestfightstory]

It has crossed my mind but I am not wont to attack coordinators and with no evidence to support the theory, it is easily disregarded as an apologist's wishful thinking.

I like that our future third or fourth down and 2 or less yards to go will not always be met by a defense that is certain we are going to run up the gut, though. And I like that we have scored a pair of TDs in the last two games by throwing from within feet of the goal line.

This kind of thing SHOULD pay off in future similar circumstances.

 

[Largent80]

Look, Wilson took 7 sacks, and how many hits in that game?

And Bevell runs the same play twice in a row with Wilson at the ONE FRIGGIN YARD LINE.

I don't care about the long run especially if Bevell puts these types of plays in especially with garbage collectors for Tackles.

 

[Cartire]

Don't get me wrong guys, I'm not saying he is purposely making it hard. But he's just got some sections of the playbook on hold. He's still got to make the right calls when he can, but you just can't show all your cards in this league to early. Teams will have you figured out.

Also, I'm on board with injuries also impacting a lot of the play calling.

 

[bestfightstory]

Look, Wilson took 7 sacks, and how many hits in that game?

And Bevell runs the same play twice in a row with Wilson at the ONE FRIGGIN YARD LINE.

I don't care about the long run especially if Bevell puts these types of plays in especially with garbage collectors for Tackles.

Once again, you are ignoring Pete Carroll's explanation about those play calls. How convenient.

 

[Cartire]

Look, Wilson took 7 sacks, and how many hits in that game?

And Bevell runs the same play twice in a row with Wilson at the ONE FRIGGIN YARD LINE.

I don't care about the long run especially if Bevell puts these types of plays in especially with garbage collectors for Tackles.

See my response a couple post up. Wasn't Bevells fault on those.

 

[amill87]

I mentioned this in a thread the other day. Pete is known for being risky at times, after all he does have the nick name big balls Pete for a reason.

It's pretty unlikely but what if Pete really has told Bevell to hold back a little? We know this team is confident in this defense and Wilson. If Bevell was really that bad of a play caller, you'd think we would've lost a game by more than 7 points at some point in the past 24 games, yet every time the offense has needed to step up and score, they have.

We are never going to know the truth behind this, but it can't be coincidence that the entire NFL is talking about Bevell being a head coach some day yet he can't call the most basic plays that the every day fan can notice?

 

[Largent80]

Look, Wilson took 7 sacks, and how many hits in that game?

And Bevell runs the same play twice in a row with Wilson at the ONE FRIGGIN YARD LINE.

I don't care about the long run especially if Bevell puts these types of plays in especially with garbage collectors for Tackles.

Once again, you are ignoring Pete Carroll's explanation about those play calls. How convenient.

Incorrect.

Not ignoring, Observing. Wasn't it you that said PROTECT OUR QUARTERBACK?

That....ain't doin it.

 

[imnKOgnito]

My thought has been that he is running the offense that he wants to run with Percy Harvin so that he's not changing things up in any drastic sense upon Harvin's return. That, however, doesn't excuse the fact that they're going to get Wilson killed in the mean time if they don't start finding ways to protect him.

 

[Ozzy]

I can see that side of the argument and I could be wrong but I doubt it. I think it has more to do with the injuries. I think Bevell has done a pretty good job overall but to question his adjustments during the Rams game. I think things open up over the next few weeks though and still see this offense catching fire.

 

[bestfightstory]

I mentioned this in a thread the other day. Pete is known for being risky at times, after all he does have the nick name big balls Pete for a reason.

It's pretty unlikely but what if Pete really has told Bevell to hold back a little? We know this team is confident in this defense and Wilson. If Bevell was really that bad of a play caller, you'd think we would've lost a game by more than 7 points at some point in the past 24 games, yet every time the offense has needed to step up and score, they have.

We are never going to know the truth behind this, but it can't be coincidence that the entire NFL is talking about Bevell being a head coach some day yet he can't call the most basic plays that the every day fan can notice?

Reasonable. Also reasonable to accept as truth that Bevell's game plans are vetted by Carroll and designed, in part, by Cable.

 

[OrFan]

I'm pretty sure they are holding back a few plays for just the right time, but overall change? Not likely.

Holmgren said many times he would run certain plays to set up others, either in that game or later down the road. This was a very few plays though.

I do not think we will see a lot of new stuff though. Changes in players available will always make a difference, Harvin for example, but most of the plays will be quite similar in my opinion.

 

[amill87]

I mentioned this in a thread the other day. Pete is known for being risky at times, after all he does have the nick name big balls Pete for a reason.

It's pretty unlikely but what if Pete really has told Bevell to hold back a little? We know this team is confident in this defense and Wilson. If Bevell was really that bad of a play caller, you'd think we would've lost a game by more than 7 points at some point in the past 24 games, yet every time the offense has needed to step up and score, they have.

We are never going to know the truth behind this, but it can't be coincidence that the entire NFL is talking about Bevell being a head coach some day yet he can't call the most basic plays that the every day fan can notice?

Reasonable. Also reasonable to accept as truth that Bevell's game plans are vetted by Carroll and designed, in part, by Cable.

Exactly.

During the game, I was irate that Bevell was that bad. But after listening to both Wilson and Carroll emphasize how important it was that we didn't turn the ball over, you know Carroll had something to do with the offensive play calling.

 

[imnKOgnito]

I mentioned this in a thread the other day. Pete is known for being risky at times, after all he does have the nick name big balls Pete for a reason.

It's pretty unlikely but what if Pete really has told Bevell to hold back a little? We know this team is confident in this defense and Wilson. If Bevell was really that bad of a play caller, you'd think we would've lost a game by more than 7 points at some point in the past 24 games, yet every time the offense has needed to step up and score, they have.

We are never going to know the truth behind this, but it can't be coincidence that the entire NFL is talking about Bevell being a head coach some day yet he can't call the most basic plays that the every day fan can notice?

Reasonable. Also reasonable to accept as truth that Bevell's game plans are vetted by Carroll and designed, in part, by Cable.

Exactly.

During the game, I was irate that Bevell was that bad. But after listening to both Wilson and Carroll emphasize how important it was that we didn't turn the ball over, you know Carroll had something to do with the offensive play calling.

Wilson turns the ball over more often while getting sacked than with interceptions, so why would they call for him to get sacked every play? :sarcasm_off: