Walter Thurmond substance abuse suspension

[SeaTown81]

Ten. Imagine that. Wanting non druggies on my team. You can have it both ways you know. You can win with druggies.

Would be nice. But good luck fielding that team in today's professional sports landscape. You're going to need to find a whole lot more Russell Wilson's. I'd guess there are more Hawks (same goes for other teams) who do drugs of some sort than don't.

Let's be honest with ourselves for a second. What are the odds a guy like Marshawn Lynch, who we all love to death, doesn't smoke weed? :snack:

Now obviously most guys are able to work it so they don't get suspended over it. Either by not smoking during the season, successfully masking it, or being smart enough to not fail a second test. And thusly blame is placed on Thurmond for failing a second test.

But if you really want to say that you want "non-druggies" on the team. You're entering a MUCH larger conversation than simply being upset with Walter Thurmond and a couple other guys.

 

[Atradees]

I think we have other good cornerbacks that are made better because of the scheme and other personnel.

We will probably be OK. I am an OR Duck fan. I would find a way cut him if it was up to me. Making a lesson out of him to others could be an important precedent.

 

[TwilightError]

Someone call Marcus Trufant. He can play and deserves a shot at getting the ring.

 

[Tech Worlds]

Ten. Imagine that. Wanting non druggies on my team. You can have it both ways you know. You can win with druggies.

Would be nice. But good luck fielding that team in today's professional sports landscape. You're going to need to find a whole lot more Russell Wilson's. I'd guess there are more Hawks (same goes for other teams) who do drugs of some sort than don't.

Let's be honest with ourselves for a second. What are the odds a guy like Marshawn Lynch, who we all love to death, doesn't smoke weed? :snack:

Now obviously most guys are able to work it so they don't get suspended over it. Either by not smoking during the season, successfully masking it, or being smart enough to not fail a second test. And thusly blame is placed on Thurmond for failing a second test.

But if you really want to say that you want "non-druggies" on the team. You're entering a MUCH larger conversation than simply being upset with Walter Thurmond and a couple other guys.

I am not as lient on druggies as you are I suppose.

I don't live in a win at all costs world.

If Lynch starts getting caught doing drugs my opinion of him will change. I grew up in a household that didn't allow that stuff so I feel this way. I realize most of you think it's OK to partake to pot. I don't. Just my personal preference.

 

[cacksman]

We've got to 10-1 playing the worst schedule in the league.

ummmmm, no the chiefs did that

Chiefs are not 10-1, and the Chiefs have played better opponents than us so far. You are false on both accounts.

No they haven't.

Oh really?

STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE, Weeks 1-11
Team W L Pct
Seattle 42 57 .424
San Diego 40 51 .440
Kansas City 42 50 .457

Feel free to apologize you two, I'll wait.

 

[Tech Worlds]

Oh and I happen to work in an occupation that has zero tolerance for drugs. It's important to me not to do drugs as it would jeprodise my career. Obviously Thurmond doesn't care enough about his career.

 

[SmokinHawk]

... Part of me thinks it's bullshit that these guys can have their employment status drawn into jeopardy for partaking of a substance that is now legal in the state where they are employed...

Oh, it's beyond bullshit. It's outrageous in the original sense of the word. Given the savagely out-of-proportion size of the penalties involved, non performance-related marijuana testing is a considerable injustice. And one that many (most?) of us don't really give a crap about because, meh, potheads, hippies, eff 'em.

The irony that brings my piss to a seething boil is the fact that alcohol is legal and any NFL player is welcome to drink it until their liver floats. But dear god help you if you happen to smoke a little weed, which hasn't one tenth the destructive capability of alcohol.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

By DVOA, a much better metric, Seattle is second. DVOA is adjusted based on strength of opponent. Their weighted DVOA is comparatively not less in difference from their original DVOA compared to the two teams that you listed. There isn't even a question that Seattle has played a stronger schedule than either of those two teams.

On a surface level, Seattle has beaten more currently over .500 teams than Kansas City has played.

 

[bestfightstory]

Oh and I happen to work in an occupation that has zero tolerance for drugs. It's important to me not to do drugs as it would jeprodise my career. Obviously Thurmond doesn't care enough about his career.

....Or his teammates.

I don't give a shit about weed. And think it should be legal. But the fact is if I smoke and am tested for it (EVEN IF I SMOKED IT IN AMSTERDAM WHERE IT IS LEGAL) I am busted. Thurmond knew what was at stake. It didn't matter.

Protect the team. Leave No Doubt. 24/7.

 

[SeaTown81]

Ten. Imagine that. Wanting non druggies on my team. You can have it both ways you know. You can win with druggies.

Would be nice. But good luck fielding that team in today's professional sports landscape. You're going to need to find a whole lot more Russell Wilson's. I'd guess there are more Hawks (same goes for other teams) who do drugs of some sort than don't.

Let's be honest with ourselves for a second. What are the odds a guy like Marshawn Lynch, who we all love to death, doesn't smoke weed? :snack:

Now obviously most guys are able to work it so they don't get suspended over it. Either by not smoking during the season, successfully masking it, or being smart enough to not fail a second test. And thusly blame is placed on Thurmond for failing a second test.

But if you really want to say that you want "non-druggies" on the team. You're entering a MUCH larger conversation than simply being upset with Walter Thurmond and a couple other guys.

I am not as lient on druggies as you are I suppose.

I don't live in a win at all costs world.

If Lynch starts getting caught doing drugs my opinion of him will change. I grew up in a household that didn't allow that stuff so I feel this way. I realize most of you think it's OK to partake to pot. I don't. Just my personal preference.

That's a perfectly fine stance to take. I also work in a job that has a zero tolerance stance on drug use. I'm not defending drug use or saying it's cool. Just saying that tons of pro athletes smoke weed. Most likely as many that do as that don't. And most you'll never know about.

 

[Dreadbelch]

Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. =(

 

[Coug_Hawk08]

Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. =(

It's going to be that way in FA for Thurm now.

 

[ClumsyLurk]

I work in a drug tolerant industry. Anti-depressants are popped regularly. Its sickening what it turns my coworkers into.

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

I am not as lient on druggies as you are I suppose.

I don't live in a win at all costs world.

If Lynch starts getting caught doing drugs my opinion of him will change. I grew up in a household that didn't allow that stuff so I feel this way. I realize most of you think it's OK to partake to pot. I don't. Just my personal preference.

Here's the thing, though. Using marijuana doesn't make you a "druggie" any more than enjoying a glass of wine makes you an "alcoholic". It's almost impossible to make a coherent case that using marijuana is inherently immoral. (Which in theory is the basis for our laws, and following that, company policies.)

It's fine for you to prefer not to use marijuana, or to prefer not to associate with marijuana users. Name-calling ("druggie" = dismissive, pejorative term, to my reading) is less fine.

 

[Largent80]

“I think we move forward strong,” Sherman said. “We played like this before. We played like this the end of last year, played four games with myself, Byron Maxwell and Jeremy Lane and we won those games by a considerable. So I think we will be fine. It will be great to get him back by the playoffs and get his feet back under him. But I think we will get past it.”

Seattle has been hoping to not need to put Browner on IR hoping he could get healthy in time for the playoffs.

If Thurmond sits out the next four games, he will miss contests against New Orleans, at San Francisco, the New York Giants and Arizona, but could then return for the final home game against the Rams on Dec. 29.

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/seahawks/ ... our-games/

 

[el capitan]

... Part of me thinks it's bullshit that these guys can have their employment status drawn into jeopardy for partaking of a substance that is now legal in the state where they are employed...

Oh, it's beyond bullshit. It's outrageous in the original sense of the word. Given the savagely out-of-proportion size of the penalties involved, non performance-related marijuana testing is a considerable injustice. And one that many (most?) of us don't really give a crap about because, meh, potheads, hippies, eff 'em.

The irony that brings my piss to a seething boil is the fact that alcohol is legal and any NFL player is welcome to drink it until their liver floats. But dear god help you if you happen to smoke a little weed, which hasn't one tenth the destructive capability of alcohol.

The point is WT3 went to work every day knowing that he's not allowed to smoke weed and he did anyway, he knew he was gonna be tested and got caught more than once. He is a dumbass. His actions could impact our seeding in the playoffs.

 

[scutterhawk]

Pete runs a loose ship. This is on him too.

So...When the Whiners fans call him "Pete the Cheat", you agree?

 

[cacksman]

By DVOA, a much better metric, Seattle is second. DVOA is adjusted based on strength of opponent. Their weighted DVOA is comparatively not less in difference from their original DVOA compared to the two teams that you listed. There isn't even a question that Seattle has played a stronger schedule than either of those two teams.

On a surface level, Seattle has beaten more currently over .500 teams than Kansas City has played.

Yes it takes into account strength of schedule, but also win margin, etc. There is NO question who has played the teams with the better records than Seattle, and that is the other 31 teams in the league.

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't lie.

 

[Tech Worlds]

I am not as lient on druggies as you are I suppose.

I don't live in a win at all costs world.

If Lynch starts getting caught doing drugs my opinion of him will change. I grew up in a household that didn't allow that stuff so I feel this way. I realize most of you think it's OK to partake to pot. I don't. Just my personal preference.

Here's the thing, though. Using marijuana doesn't make you a "druggie" any more than enjoying a glass of wine makes you an "alcoholic". It's almost impossible to make a coherent case that using marijuana is inherently immoral. (Which in theory is the basis for our laws, and following that, company policies.)

It's fine for you to prefer not to use marijuana, or to prefer not to associate with marijuana users. Name-calling ("druggie" = dismissive, pejorative term, to my reading) is less fine.

I consider habitual pot smokers druggies and or pot heads and I have no problem proclaiming that.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

I agree that numbers don't lie. Use the better numbers.