Travis Homer

[sutz]

Yeah, Homer has a lot of work to do before we think about trading away one of our top 2 RBs. Frankly, Carson's 2d deal is coming up first and that will be the decision to mull over by the front office. Do we retain him? RBs traditionally don't last that long and a 2d contract is likely to be his last. Does he do it here? Right now I'd say "Hell yes!" but we'll have to figure out what it will cost us.

We're a "running" team, but we can't afford stupid money on an RB, whatever that is.

 

[Milehighhawk]

He's a starting caliber running back

You don't get starters in the 7th round, the Forum experts have told us that.

No, they have said that the Seahawks don't get starters with their first picks. Maybe Penny is coming out (hope so though I have been and remain a critic) but other than maybe him they've been right.

Not trying to derail the thread, but this is such an obviously dumb narrative. I am going to teach you something here about making statements that are easily refutable if you only did a 20 second google search.

In Pete's tenure, the Seahawks have used seven first round draft picks, trading away the remaining. With those 7 picks, they drafted Russell Okung, Earl Thomas, James Carpenter, Bruce Irvin, Germain Ifedi, Rashaad Penny, and L.J. Collier. Of those 7 picks, 5 of them were at one point or another starters at the start of multiple seasons and four of them continue to be starters in the league. The last two are too early in their career to objectively judge as conventional wisdom gives ~3 years to wait and see.

Resume your scheduled programming.

 

[xray]

Why trade Penny? No need for that at this point. He is on the rise, and is starting to look the way they anticipated. I'm just glad the fans are not running the team :lol:

I said I think they will because of his value in the trade market and the need to rebuild the OL is more critical next season than having a glut of RBs . just my opinion .

 

[sutz]

Why trade Penny? No need for that at this point. He is on the rise, and is starting to look the way they anticipated. I'm just glad the fans are not running the team :lol:

I said I think they will because of his value in the trade market and the need to rebuild the OL is more critical next season than having a glut of RBs . just my opinion .

Wait, wut? Rebuild the O-line? Where did that come from?

 

[HawkerD]

He's a starting caliber running back

You don't get starters in the 7th round, the Forum experts have told us that.

No, they have said that the Seahawks don't get starters with their first picks. Maybe Penny is coming out (hope so though I have been and remain a critic) but other than maybe him they've been right.

Not trying to derail the thread, but this is such an obviously dumb narrative. I am going to teach you something here about making statements that are easily refutable if you only did a 20 second google search.

In Pete's tenure, the Seahawks have used seven first round draft picks, trading away the remaining. With those 7 picks, they drafted Russell Okung, Earl Thomas, James Carpenter, Bruce Irvin, Germain Ifedi, Rashaad Penny, and L.J. Collier. Of those 7 picks, 5 of them were at one point or another starters at the start of multiple seasons and four of them continue to be starters in the league. The last two are too early in their career to objectively judge as conventional wisdom gives ~3 years to wait and see.

Resume your scheduled programming.

Starters yes but...
Okung - no second contract
Carpenter- no second contract
Irvin - no second contract
Ifedi- Hated by all for first 3.5 years. Second contract ?
Penny is coming on but LJ has BUST written all over him.
Earl was the only perennial Pro Bowler/All Pro = GREAT pick

You have to be looking for more than just a starter in the First round. Clearly it doesn't always work out but 1 for 7 is not that great of a batting average. On the other hand they have made a lot of lemonade from late rounders and UDFA. You can't have everything. But in terms of 1st round success it hasn't been great but it hasn't been terrible considering the draft position.

 

[justafan]

It was great to see him make those plays. I have no doubt about his talent to be a part of the future.

 

[balakoth]

He's a starting caliber running back

You don't get starters in the 7th round, the Forum experts have told us that.

Goes along with the 'any 1st Rd pick is an instant starter' idea. :twisted:

Yeah hard for them to be starters period when they get 14 carries over 4 games while the other dude is dropping the ball on the ground 6 times. But.... this coaching staff and "always compete" rocks.........

 

[SoulfishHawk]

He will get his shot at some point. Relax and let him contribute on special teams.

 

[sutz]

He's a starting caliber running back

You don't get starters in the 7th round, the Forum experts have told us that.

Goes along with the 'any 1st Rd pick is an instant starter' idea. :twisted:

Yeah hard for them to be starters period when they get 14 carries over 4 games while the other dude is dropping the ball on the ground 6 times. But.... this coaching staff and "always compete" rocks.........

Spare me the fantasy football arguments. 90% of the game happens where we fans don't see it, on the practice field on Wed/Thurs. Yes, coaches know more than we do in many, many ways.

Carson's fumbles are concerning, as are Penny's. That still doesn't mean Homer is ready to be the #1, which is the player this thread is about.

Next fantasy draft, consider the likelihood that your favored pick will actually get to play.

 

[Sports Hernia]

No need to trade any RB. Depth is a good thing. Especially cheap depth at a physical position.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Or as Dave Wyman calls him: Homer Davis :lol:

 

[Mad Dog]

You have to be looking for more than just a starter in the First round..

In the top 10, yes. But entire first round? Given an average NFL career of 5 years that means there should be 150 probowlers playing right now from 1st rounds picks.

Beyond the top 15, the first round talent is not much different than the second round. Which is why a lot of GM's really find the second round the sweet spot for finding value in the draft. And its why Schneider has no qualms dropping down in the draft. If you are outside of the top 15, its becoming a big crap shoot.

What you really need from a draft to be successful is at least 2 starters, 2 solid backups, and 2-3 special teamers. If you can do that every year you are likely drafting well. Ideally you find a probowler each draft but that's going to be more hit and miss with some years getting a couple and some years getting nothing.

And of course it's ideal if the 2 starters you get are above average at least.

 

[LTH]

Why trade Penny? No need for that at this point. He is on the rise, and is starting to look the way they anticipated. I'm just glad the fans are not running the team :lol:

I said I think they will because of his value in the trade market and the need to rebuild the OL is more critical next season than having a glut of RBs . just my opinion .

Wait, wut? Rebuild the O-line? Where did that come from?

:vodka: :vodka: :vodka: ukeface:

That O line was firing off the ball big time... they were getting 2-3 yards push odd the LOS. Talking about man handling MO FO's.... I could drive my truck through some of the holes they created... Can't wait to see them pound on the Rams...

LTH

 

[SoulfishHawk]

The O Line in the 2nd half was $, love seeing them just pounding the rock and eating up all that clock. Vikes D line was toast in the middle of the 4th quarter.

 

[justafan]

You don't get starters in the 7th round, the Forum experts have told us that.

No, they have said that the Seahawks don't get starters with their first picks. Maybe Penny is coming out (hope so though I have been and remain a critic) but other than maybe him they've been right.

Not trying to derail the thread, but this is such an obviously dumb narrative. I am going to teach you something here about making statements that are easily refutable if you only did a 20 second google search.

In Pete's tenure, the Seahawks have used seven first round draft picks, trading away the remaining. With those 7 picks, they drafted Russell Okung, Earl Thomas, James Carpenter, Bruce Irvin, Germain Ifedi, Rashaad Penny, and L.J. Collier. Of those 7 picks, 5 of them were at one point or another starters at the start of multiple seasons and four of them continue to be starters in the league. The last two are too early in their career to objectively judge as conventional wisdom gives ~3 years to wait and see.

Resume your scheduled programming.

Starters yes but...
Okung - no second contract
Carpenter- no second contract
Irvin - no second contract
Ifedi- Hated by all for first 3.5 years. Second contract ?
Penny is coming on but LJ has BUST written all over him.
Earl was the only perennial Pro Bowler/All Pro = GREAT pick

You have to be looking for more than just a starter in the First round. Clearly it doesn't always work out but 1 for 7 is not that great of a batting average. On the other hand they have made a lot of lemonade from late rounders and UDFA. You can't have everything. But in terms of 1st round success it hasn't been great but it hasn't been terrible considering the draft position.

You cant say that it was a bad pick because we didnt pay the big second contract. All those players went on and had successful careers. We just couldnt pay them due to the salary cap from drafting so well in prior drafts. 1st round picks in the range we usually draft are 50/50 at best.

 

[sc85sis]

Draft position in the NFL and star ratings in college recruiting get too much attention from fans. They’re indicators of perceived potential, not guarantees. There are a great number of factors that play a part into whether most players actually succeed.

 

[xray]

Besides Homer theirs another hidden gem rookie we've yet to see...maybe a surprise in the playoffs...Ursua... :!:

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Besides Homer theirs another hidden gem rookie we've yet to see...maybe a surprise in the playoffs...Ursua... :!:

there's



And as much as I've wanted to see Ursua this year I can't imagine they drop him into the pressure of a playoff situation without ever playing in the regular season

 

[olyfan63]

Homer got some reps today. We'll see what he shows us the next couple games.

We'll only see Ursua, IMO, if Lockett is unavailable or needs a breather. Pete has gone to bigger-bodied WRs who can block LBs in the running game if needed to. DK has been hell on Linebackers all season, and takes pride is his blocking. Malik Turner, committed blocker. I think Gordon as well, but not sure in limited sightings. David Moore blocks effectively also. Lockett is just too small to be blocking LBs, but can deal with blocking the occasional CB or FS. Ursua has a similar body type and size to Lockett, IIRC.

 

[Cyrus12]

Homer is now the number 2 as it is obvious they cannot trust Procice. I'm hoping they cut him this week and bring in someone else. The way Carson runs and how many times they run the ball a secondary guy will be needed. I hope Homer gets a few more reps at practice this week.