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chris98251":2d7loyyj said:
nIdahoSeahawk":2d7loyyj said:
Is it just me, or does it seem that half this forum is getting way too humble? In a losing season, we're quick to stick up for the Hawks when we're getting all sorts of hate, but in a winning season, while we're getting national love, it's constantly "that's not right, so and so is better than so and so," or "technically this team is better than us," blah blah blah. Not to be a pest, but seriously, when the national media is giving is love, stop trying to discount it. Secondly, when people make predictions (16-0 for example), knock it off with shooting that stuff down and doing the "one game at a time" stuff. A prediction like that is VERY possible, regardless of how probable it is.

Bottom line: Our team is getting love and we're confident! Absorb it, don't reject it! People had high expectations in August, and it was okay then. The same expectations now seem to be getting "hey calm down, let's watch it play out" sort of responses now. KNOCK IT OFF

/endrant

GO HAWKS!

First off the National Media doesn't know shit, they have been more wrong than right about everything Hawks related and are simply jumping on for a ride in the new toy that is the Seahawks out West. As far as 16 - 0 THERE IS A REASON, the Dolphins are the only undefeated season team, it's practically an impossible task given the extended length of the season and injuries. It is a lot like showing up to the Prom and saying I'm taking the prom queen home tonight even though I am not her date in my 1965 Volkswagon bus.

Factor in the huge amount of injuries we are dealing with early on, Okung, Unger, Breno, Harvin, now Miller, on offense and it's called tempered enthusiam, one game at a time with this many bumps and bruises and how we match up is a realistic and reasonable approach. If by the end of the day at the end of the season and were 15 - 0 we can talk about the 16 - 0 approach.

The team looks at it one game at a time, just every one game is approached like a championship game. It's not a bad way for fans to look at it either. Many of us remember last season and the Arizona game, the Miami game etc. Pie in the sky dreams are great dreams, but if your living in the sky when you fall it hurts a lot more then one that is grounded and taking measured risks and expectations.


Hey! 65 vw bus is a hella cool ride, cant think of a better thing to take her home in!
 

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There are mentalities that I really do not understand-but I'm not bothered by it, per se. As long as nobody is jumping my shit for my approach to the season. I just hope everybody is enjoying this.

As for the term 'humble'. You can be both extremely confident AND humble.
 

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As a general rule that travels pretty widely IMO, if you're concern is that people that share a similar characteristic to you are too humble about it, being too humble really ain't what you need to worry about. :)

The instances are rare where humility is a bad thing, IMO.
 

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I see folks who are loving the way we're rolling up critical road wins (and destroying teams at home as expected), but who see Russell under a lot of heat week after week. The knowledge that it all comes crashing down if he takes too many shots is my biggest "yeah but."

This team is doing everything right given their injuries and what they have on the OL, I'm thrilled about it, if they can protect Wilson a wee bit better I will have zero, zero doubts about anything. A good start will be if they can keep him more or less upright against the Colts, who do not have the Texan, SF, or Carolina Dline.
 

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nIdahoSeahawk":6l82onch said:
Is it just me, or does it seem that half this forum is getting way too humble? In a losing season, we're quick to stick up for the Hawks when we're getting all sorts of hate, but in a winning season, while we're getting national love, it's constantly "that's not right, so and so is better than so and so," or "technically this team is better than us," blah blah blah. Not to be a pest, but seriously, when the national media is giving is love, stop trying to discount it. Secondly, when people make predictions (16-0 for example), knock it off with shooting that stuff down and doing the "one game at a time" stuff. A prediction like that is VERY possible, regardless of how probable it is.

Bottom line: Our team is getting love and we're confident! Absorb it, don't reject it! People had high expectations in August, and it was okay then. The same expectations now seem to be getting "hey calm down, let's watch it play out" sort of responses now. KNOCK IT OFF

/endrant

GO HAWKS!

With ya man. I think what you are seeing is years of Seattle Sports Syndrome taking its sweet time to wear off of people. :) They will come around.
 

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I think a lot of people just feel they need/want to see consistency. It has been the best ride so far for me, as a Hawk fan. I am at the edge of my seat more than ever, almost every game. It's exciting as hell! I am still cautiously optimistic and at the same time, confident. It's a weird feeling. After some continued success and hard, tough play, it will get easier to be more confident and less cautious.

I love being a Hawk fan though.
 

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The thing is, we all want to see 14-2 or possibly even better, really badly. However, we haven't really been close to playing a complete game. The thinking is that in order to get to one of those lofty records, we need to improve. Nothing wrong with that line of thinking in my opinion.
 

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Tical21":2o0zj8ag said:
The thing is, we all want to see 14-2 or possibly even better, really badly. However, we haven't really been close to playing a complete game. The thinking is that in order to get to one of those lofty records, we need to improve. Nothing wrong with that line of thinking in my opinion.


Agreed. I'm thrilled with our record, but we're far from a well-oiled machine. Lots of questions on Offense as we've yet to hit our stride. Still, our O didn't really start clicking last year until around week 7 or so. I'm not pessimistic, just a little concerned as I really don't want Russell to get s**thammered and lose him for any length of time.
 

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bestfightstory":2ovbnhw8 said:
There are mentalities that I really do not understand-but I'm not bothered by it, per se. As long as nobody is jumping my shit for my approach to the season. I just hope everybody is enjoying this.

As for the term 'humble'. You can be both extremely confident AND humble.
Suck for Luck had you riled like a Sum-a-bish.
 

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My take on it (at least for me) is that I am excited as hell for this team, watching for the last three years as Pete and John built one hell of a group. Us fans are on the outside looking in on something we only get to see on Sundays and read about in blogs and news articles. But for all the limited info and tv time we get, we can tell this is the real deal and we should be excited. These games are what we waited for and what we wished we had all those years. Enjoy this time for the blessing it is and get ready to enjoy the next several years of being a legitimate playoff talented team under Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson. Someday we will be saying "remember when..." so eyes wide open my friends.

We should be excited and loving every minute of this. I love proving the media pundits wrong week after week and now seeing us getting the long overdue respect is just the icing on the cake. We now have the team with the talent and personalities that other fans wish they had...the kind of team that we used to watch play in the Superbowls without us.

It doesn't mean we need to be like some of those fans of other teams visiting our site that just pound their chest, act like jerks and say how they are going to crush us, basing their manhood on boastfully predicting the outcome of the game. I like to think Hawk fans are better than that. I like seeing our fans act like decent people on other boards and in our stadium,...we don't need to be angels, but it represents us well. I want other teams fans to say, those Hawk fans are actually pretty decent and then after we beat them they can say, Damn...that Hawks team is pretty f-in good. Nothing like winning and being decent about it.

Don't feel bad however you show your team the love. Give credit where credit is due if the other team deserves it, but cheer for our Hawks whether nervous and on the edge of your seats or confident with all our hearts...they have earned it (and so have we).

all in all though, it's a good problem to have when we are questioning how excited we should be. It's kind of like those first world problems...you know the kind, like "this damn 60 inch big screen doesn't have the best sound quality" or "damnit, they put a little too much blue cheese on my filet Mignon again"
 

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If one does not wish to hear a "contrary opinion", then just start your post with the statement: "Bandwagon Opinions Only". :roll:
 

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I know that I am far more laid back this year when posting than I was in the past. For me personally it is being confident. This team will win.

The only other year I can really use for comparison is '05' in which I was a nervous wreck. Being way too low at times, and way to high at others, because I was just waiting for the dream to end, killed me. I just knew they would fail at some point. I was not at all confident, years of watching the Hawks had taught me that.

This year, with the exception of the actual game time, is on cruise control for me. I know they will do well and so I am not as excited about every little aspect as before.

Does this mean I am not as happy about this season? Not at all. Confidence has tempered my emotions a bit though.
 

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Scottemojo":5l4wfid8 said:
bestfightstory":5l4wfid8 said:
There are mentalities that I really do not understand-but I'm not bothered by it, per se. As long as nobody is jumping my shit for my approach to the season. I just hope everybody is enjoying this.

As for the term 'humble'. You can be both extremely confident AND humble.
Suck for Luck had you riled like a Sum-a-bish.

Infuriated. You damn right! That was hella bootsy! That was also one of the arguments I still believe I was on the right side of. Even this season there is no shortage of viewpoints/criticisms/arguments that I think are silly and/or incorrect. The focus on Bevell as fall guy for a gameplan that has Pete and Cable's fingerprints all over it being one that comes to mind. But my point is that I truly believe this team is going to the Super Bowl this season and that is what matters most to me. All the rest is mostly internet noise , pissing matches and a distraction from the enjoyment of being 4-0 with great things ahead. So far I'm enjoying living this season as a fan. Things could change, football is a volatile sport. But, hey, if we lose this week to the Colts, for example? That puts us at 4-1 having played 4 potential playoff teams. 3 of them at 10am on the road. I won't give a %!*Marshawn!#! We still goin to the Super Bowl.
 

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nIdahoSeahawk":1fpicydq said:
Is it just me, or does it seem that half this forum is getting way too humble? In a losing season, we're quick to stick up for the Hawks when we're getting all sorts of hate, but in a winning season, while we're getting national love, it's constantly "that's not right, so and so is better than so and so," or "technically this team is better than us," blah blah blah. Not to be a pest, but seriously, when the national media is giving is love, stop trying to discount it. Secondly, when people make predictions (16-0 for example), knock it off with shooting that stuff down and doing the "one game at a time" stuff. A prediction like that is VERY possible, regardless of how probable it is.

Bottom line: Our team is getting love and we're confident! Absorb it, don't reject it! People had high expectations in August, and it was okay then. The same expectations now seem to be getting "hey calm down, let's watch it play out" sort of responses now. KNOCK IT OFF

/endrant

GO HAWKS!

"Knock it off, stop, agree with me and act like I wan't you to act" Did I miss anything? Back off, sport.

There are 12 games left to play and you get there one game at a time. We're the same people saying calm down when things aren't going right, rather than screaming out "Fire the coach, fire the GM, fire all the players" and wanting to slit our wrists after one or two losses.

It's a long journey to 16 wins if you get there at all. We haven't arrived yet, so brag when you get there.
 

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nIdahoSeahawk":2p51w85d said:
Is it just me, or does it seem that half this forum is getting way too humble? In a losing season, we're quick to stick up for the Hawks when we're getting all sorts of hate, but in a winning season, while we're getting national love, it's constantly "that's not right, so and so is better than so and so," or "technically this team is better than us," blah blah blah. Not to be a pest, but seriously, when the national media is giving is love, stop trying to discount it. Secondly, when people make predictions (16-0 for example), knock it off with shooting that stuff down and doing the "one game at a time" stuff. A prediction like that is VERY possible, regardless of how probable it is.

Bottom line: Our team is getting love and we're confident! Absorb it, don't reject it! People had high expectations in August, and it was okay then. The same expectations now seem to be getting "hey calm down, let's watch it play out" sort of responses now. KNOCK IT OFF

/endrant

GO HAWKS!
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As far as I'm concerned, if you're saying let's go 1-0 every week, you're saying we're going to go 19-0. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. I'm a fan, I'm going to be over top and say we're going 19-0--shit I've done that in down years. Let the players and coaches figure out how.

If it means I fall harder when we lose, so be it. I'm not going to bury my emotions for the sake of saving myself a letdown. It's football we're talking about, men, not sexual partners. (Which is the only thing better)
 
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I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that vast majority of the long-time posters on this board are some of the most mature, well-educated, and wise football fans anywhere. Having been a fans of an NFL franchise that has undergone its share of ups and downs, and has been mired deep in mediocrity for so long, the approach (if I may) that most of us are going to take with the way this season is shaping up, is "guarded". You are not going to see any of these folks making any bold predictions because (for lack of a better term), we know better.

With the talent we have right now, especially at the quarterback position, one can look back in time and draw few parallels to Seahawks teams we've witnessed before. When you look at how this team has functioned in the second half of last season and you look at how things are happening so far this year, it's kind of spooky. We are now coming back from significant point deficits and are winning the games we used to lose. It doesn't feel right. I'm really not sure how I am supposed to feel. Honestly. It is un-charted territory, and I'm still collating it all.

I fully understand why it is easy for some to look at our recent success and come to the conclusion that we have finally arrived at greatness that cannot be vanquished, but I know better. I know that in a blink of an eye, it all could come crashing down. So, do I move forward in fear? Do I continue to prepare myself for the inevitable crisis this ends it all? Or, do I decide that all of what I've lived through for the last 35 years of Seahawks football is finally over and jump in with both feet? Neither, is my answer. The safe way to look at what we have here now is a guarded approach. An approach that doesn't make bold predictions, understands the way things can change in an instant, but one the most certainly does not ignore what is right in front of my face.

I'm moving forward by spending just enough on excitement now, so that there is enough left in my wallet to pay for the Top Ramen I'll have to endure when I'm forced to watch two other teams on Superbowl Sunday. If, God willing, my wise emotional spending pays off, I'll have more than enough left to buy a round of drinks for everyone at the victory celebration come February.
 
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Bigpumpkin":1bnjqdgr said:
If one does not wish to hear a "contrary opinion", then just start your post with the statement: "Bandwagon Opinions Only". :roll:

HawKnPeppa":1bnjqdgr said:
nIdahoSeahawk":1bnjqdgr said:
Is it just me, or does it seem that half this forum is getting way too humble? In a losing season, we're quick to stick up for the Hawks when we're getting all sorts of hate, but in a winning season, while we're getting national love, it's constantly "that's not right, so and so is better than so and so," or "technically this team is better than us," blah blah blah. Not to be a pest, but seriously, when the national media is giving is love, stop trying to discount it. Secondly, when people make predictions (16-0 for example), knock it off with shooting that stuff down and doing the "one game at a time" stuff. A prediction like that is VERY possible, regardless of how probable it is.

Bottom line: Our team is getting love and we're confident! Absorb it, don't reject it! People had high expectations in August, and it was okay then. The same expectations now seem to be getting "hey calm down, let's watch it play out" sort of responses now. KNOCK IT OFF

/endrant

GO HAWKS!

"Knock it off, stop, agree with me and act like I wan't you to act" Did I miss anything? Back off, sport.

There are 12 games left to play and you get there one game at a time. We're the same people saying calm down when things aren't going right, rather than screaming out "Fire the coach, fire the GM, fire all the players" and wanting to slit our wrists after one or two losses.

It's a long journey to 16 wins if you get there at all. We haven't arrived yet, so brag when you get there.

To both of you, as I said earlier in this thread: I'm not telling people to have only that opinion, I'm simply saying to stop shooting down people's optimism in every thread. Someone posts something positive, someone says "calm down" or "not true." It's annoying, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and shouldn't be getting jumped on so quickly for whatever that opinion may be. Especially when it's in support of the team.
 

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To both of you, as I said earlier in this thread: I'm not telling people to have only that opinion, I'm simply saying to stop shooting down people's optimism in every thread. Someone posts something positive, someone says "calm down" or "not true." It's annoying, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and shouldn't be getting jumped on so quickly for whatever that opinion may be. Especially when it's in support of the team.

I kind of look at the person that proclaims that we will be 19 - 0 or that we will steam roll teams like the Texans and the Colts as the same person thats on the Bridge proclaiming he can fly. Some people would try to talk him down and say it's not a good idea to jump and give reasons, others here are saying go ahead and jump ya never know it might happen, and others would say go for it dude, you have balls.
 

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I have been a Hawks fan for too long not to be humble. I pick them to lose sometimes and ever since Carroll took over, I find myself being wrong. This team makes its own luck, Carroll has them in EVERY game they play come the 4th quarter. Whether it is TJack, RW, Sherman, Thurmond or Browner. They could win every game they play.

There was a time in the 80s that the Hawks were a VERY good football team, they could compete with anyone, but sometimes the ball bounces bad, the officials screw them over, a bobbled pass gets picked off or on the way to the sideline John Elway throws a 65 yard bomb to a wide open Vance Johnson.

That stuff taught me that teams are going to lose a few. No matter how hard they try or how close they get, it happens. So, when I read 19-0 and blow out predictions, I usually just get a chuckle out of it. I'm a franchise opening fan, they don't need to win them all, they just need to win most of them and get hot in the post season. I save my arrogance for the playoffs.
 

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