The St. Louis Rams: Another Season Without a Winning Record

[Ramfan128]

Feel free to bash Fisher.

Feel free to bash the Rams this season.

But let's not get carried away historically here...

http://nflspinzone.com/2014/08/14/stati ... greatness/



We're 9th. The Seahawks and Cardinals are tied for 20th. The Rams have been suffering for around 20 years now....but that's really just a stretch that most teams go through. The Cardinals and Seahawks were irrelevant from the time of their birth until the early/mid 2000s. Neither of you had ever been to a super bowl. Playoff wins prior to 2000s? Not many.

On top of that: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9571 ... ge/page/14


Our all time winning % is higher....just for those that want to talk about how the Seahawks haven't been around as long. No matter how you slice it, neither the Cardinals nor the Seahawks franchises have ANYTHING on the Rams....not One. Single. Thing.


So bash Fisher...that's fine. He should be fired. Bash St. Louis...whatever. We suck this year. We've been bad for a few years now.

But don't bring up history....because it doesn't look favorable on Seattle or Arizona in any way. I'd think that if any fanbases know what we're going through right now, it'd be you guys.


And before I get accused of bringing up the past like Niner fans do....the original post said "going back to 1990"...that's history, so I brought up some more history.


Feel free to bash me too...I was wrong. I thought the Cardinals wouldn't be good. Thought the Rams would be better. I was dead wrong. Now the Rams have to start over.

Seriously?

Sooooo.......

If I point out the 6th ranking and 5 rings does that make me the winner of the argument?

Come on dude....It's lame when teams with successful histories claim them in this type of argument....but a team with one ring and a whole lotta losing? Don't give me the "before I get accused" argument...you did exactly what Niner fans are constantly accused (and often are guilty) of.

Please.

Only thing that's pertinent is that even after one of the worst offseasons in NFL history the 49ers have the same record as the your Rams who were supposed to have a powerhouse of a roster.

You always claim others are missing the point...meanwhile, you missed the point of my post. The original post brought up history in the first place, I was responding to that.

I have no problem with your jab about the worst offseason in NFL history and the 49ers have the same record as the Rams - that's fine. What I have a problem with, and you would too, is people talking about the Rams franchise history in a bad light. At least from Seahawk and Cardinal fans.

I wasn't saying I "won" any argument. I was bringing all that up because the only people that should be bashed are the recent/current people associated with the organization. Don't worry - the 49ers are still the worst team in the division as evidenced by the fact that we beat you 27-6 earlier this year.


Comments like "same old sorry a$$ Rams" from Cardinal and Seahawk fans is incredibly hypocritical - I was just pointing that out.

Feel free to continue bashing the current Rams organization. If they fired everyone in the front office I would be happy.

 

[Ramfan128]

Also, your "whole lotta losing" comment - I won't talk about the one ring because as someone pointed out, as championships go we're right there with your Niners.

All time series between us is basically even. And after 15-20 terrible years, we're still right around .500

As a franchise I don't think that qualifies as a "whole lotta losing"....recently? Yes. As a franchise? No.

 

[Ramfan128]

Feel free to bash Fisher.

Feel free to bash the Rams this season.

But let's not get carried away historically here...

http://nflspinzone.com/2014/08/14/stati ... greatness/



We're 9th. The Seahawks and Cardinals are tied for 20th. The Rams have been suffering for around 20 years now....but that's really just a stretch that most teams go through. The Cardinals and Seahawks were irrelevant from the time of their birth until the early/mid 2000s. Neither of you had ever been to a super bowl. Playoff wins prior to 2000s? Not many.

On top of that: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9571 ... ge/page/14


Our all time winning % is higher....just for those that want to talk about how the Seahawks haven't been around as long. No matter how you slice it, neither the Cardinals nor the Seahawks franchises have ANYTHING on the Rams....not One. Single. Thing.


So bash Fisher...that's fine. He should be fired. Bash St. Louis...whatever. We suck this year. We've been bad for a few years now.

But don't bring up history....because it doesn't look favorable on Seattle or Arizona in any way. I'd think that if any fanbases know what we're going through right now, it'd be you guys.


And before I get accused of bringing up the past like Niner fans do....the original post said "going back to 1990"...that's history, so I brought up some more history.


Feel free to bash me too...I was wrong. I thought the Cardinals wouldn't be good. Thought the Rams would be better. I was dead wrong. Now the Rams have to start over.

I sense this poster is from ST Louis ? So....ST Louis offered an open checkbook and the Rams moved in the early 90's. Have to ask, because this kinda hits close to home with all of Seattle's beloved franchises, and it happened to one of them.

RAMFAN, were you a fan of the Rams before they were hijacked out of LA / Anaheim?

The Hawks were almost ripped out of Seattle the same way the Rams were yarded out of So Cal. Piss poor ownership, stripped the team of quality players, ran in to the iceberg then lack of attendance used as the reason for relocating. You being a Rams fan and all probably know the history better than me, right??

I hope the Rams move back to LA, that's where they belong and it would right a long over due wrong in my book. If your really a fan of the Rams you will still be when they move back home. Claiming your team is so much better than the Hawks is dumb. I bet you weren't alive when the Rams were relevant in LA. One of my best friends in HS was a Rams fan, the team being stripped down to Atlanta Falcons level during the late 80's was brutal for him, especially since we lived in niner country.

I'm not from St. Louis.

Yes I would be a fan if they moved to LA - I would prefer it.

And technically, I was alive when the Rams were relevant in LA.

On top of all that, my Dad has been a Rams fan since he was a kid - I inherited that.

I would be a Rams fan no matter where they are.

Claiming the Rams franchise was better than the Hawks was just my response to someone who wanted to talk about how bad the Rams have been since the 90s.

 

[Ramfan128]

On top of that: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9571 ... ge/page/14


Our all time winning % is higher....just for those that want to talk about how the Seahawks haven't been around as long. No matter how you slice it, neither the Cardinals nor the Seahawks franchises have ANYTHING on the Rams....not One. Single. Thing.

Maybe don't use old data to back up your argument.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/

Seahawks: 312-312, .500
Rams: 537-541-21, .498.

Welp, so much for that argument. :lol:

Didn't realize my numbers were that old. My bad.

 

[Scottemojo]

When I say same ol sorry ass rams, what I mean is...

How in the hell does a coaching staff mismanage that much talent?

When SF had tons of early draft picks due to sucking, they built and signed the right free agents so that for 3 years they were a feared team. With Alex Smith and Colin I'm going Home! as QBs, fer chrissakes.

STL has turned early draft picks into the best bad team in the NFL. QBS emerge from STL looking like abused stray dogs. Any OL signed or drafted by the Rams soon becomes so terrible you have to assume bust before a snap.

The best QB Fisher ever coached, for winning percentage, was a QB Fisher did not want. Think about that for a second. Vince was so dumb they had to slim the pass book down to about 3 plays, and he couldn't even get those right. Jeff Fisher was able to win with a guy who ignored his plays and just winged it.

Fisher is a HOF special teams coach who somehow has been given a shitload of money to be the one thing he has never been good at, head coaching. He is Roger's little pigeon, drafting Sam when the guy had no chance at cracking that roster to save the league a little pie in the face, and every speech he gives as a member of the rules committee is a laughable joke when you think about how far over the edge of the rules his teams have played going back well before Gurode's head got stepped on.

Truth is, a full stadium in STL is not what the owner needs, or wants, right now. The Rams being same ol sorry ass serves his needs, and keeping Fisher on while they empty the stands leaves them free to point to those empty stands while they pack their bags. Fisher isn't going anywhere right now, Kroenke can't give the fans he doesn't want to go to the games a single reason for hope right now.

 

[Marvin49]

Feel free to bash Fisher.

Feel free to bash the Rams this season.

But let's not get carried away historically here...

http://nflspinzone.com/2014/08/14/stati ... greatness/



We're 9th. The Seahawks and Cardinals are tied for 20th. The Rams have been suffering for around 20 years now....but that's really just a stretch that most teams go through. The Cardinals and Seahawks were irrelevant from the time of their birth until the early/mid 2000s. Neither of you had ever been to a super bowl. Playoff wins prior to 2000s? Not many.

On top of that: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9571 ... ge/page/14


Our all time winning % is higher....just for those that want to talk about how the Seahawks haven't been around as long. No matter how you slice it, neither the Cardinals nor the Seahawks franchises have ANYTHING on the Rams....not One. Single. Thing.


So bash Fisher...that's fine. He should be fired. Bash St. Louis...whatever. We suck this year. We've been bad for a few years now.

But don't bring up history....because it doesn't look favorable on Seattle or Arizona in any way. I'd think that if any fanbases know what we're going through right now, it'd be you guys.


And before I get accused of bringing up the past like Niner fans do....the original post said "going back to 1990"...that's history, so I brought up some more history.


Feel free to bash me too...I was wrong. I thought the Cardinals wouldn't be good. Thought the Rams would be better. I was dead wrong. Now the Rams have to start over.

Seriously?

Sooooo.......

If I point out the 6th ranking and 5 rings does that make me the winner of the argument?

Come on dude....It's lame when teams with successful histories claim them in this type of argument....but a team with one ring and a whole lotta losing? Don't give me the "before I get accused" argument...you did exactly what Niner fans are constantly accused (and often are guilty) of.

Please.

Only thing that's pertinent is that even after one of the worst offseasons in NFL history the 49ers have the same record as the your Rams who were supposed to have a powerhouse of a roster.

You always claim others are missing the point...meanwhile, you missed the point of my post. The original post brought up history in the first place, I was responding to that.

I have no problem with your jab about the worst offseason in NFL history and the 49ers have the same record as the Rams - that's fine. What I have a problem with, and you would too, is people talking about the Rams franchise history in a bad light. At least from Seahawk and Cardinal fans.

I wasn't saying I "won" any argument. I was bringing all that up because the only people that should be bashed are the recent/current people associated with the organization. Don't worry - the 49ers are still the worst team in the division as evidenced by the fact that we beat you 27-6 earlier this year.


Comments like "same old sorry a$$ Rams" from Cardinal and Seahawk fans is incredibly hypocritical - I was just pointing that out.

Feel free to continue bashing the current Rams organization. If they fired everyone in the front office I would be happy.

Original poster brought up history since 1990. He was referring to Ram futility of the recent past (and yes...sadly I'm old enough to consider 1990 as "recent").

All of the sudden that becomes a history lesson and eventual discussion of Championships won in the DISTANT past with no bearing whatsoever on recent history or today.

As a part of a fan base that is CONSTANTLY accused of referring to the past (and admittedly, we sometimes do), I found it particularly ironic to bring up that history and in the same breath not wanting to be associated with Niner fans who do precisely what you were doing.

You don't see me pumping out my chest and bragging about the Niner SB wins. There is a to0n of history there...but ya know what? IT DOESN'T MATTER.

You making a comment in regards to DeBartolo being a cheater? What on earth did that have to do with ANYTHING? My entire point was that history doesn't matter, so why take a dig at the manner in which you perceive those championships were won?

IE, "MIssing the Point".

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Also, your "whole lotta losing" comment - I won't talk about the one ring because as someone pointed out, as championships go we're right there with your Niners.

All time series between us is basically even. And after 15-20 terrible years, we're still right around .500

As a franchise I don't think that qualifies as a "whole lotta losing"....recently? Yes. As a franchise? No.

No you're right, but the Fisher era has been a complete disaster...........no one should lose as much as he's lost with that many high draft picks.

IMO Fisher is the slam dunk bet your house first firing of the off season.

 

[Rex]

STL has turned early draft picks into the best bad team in the NFL. QBS emerge from STL looking like abused stray dogs. Any OL signed or drafted by the Rams soon becomes so terrible you have to assume bust before a snap.


[Fisher is] Roger's little pigeon, drafting Sam when the guy had no chance at cracking that roster to save the league a little pie in the face

Truth is, a full stadium in STL is not what the owner needs, or wants, right now. The Rams being same ol sorry ass serves his needs, and keeping Fisher on while they empty the stands leaves them free to point to those empty stands while they pack their bags. Fisher isn't going anywhere right now, Kroenke can't give the fans he doesn't want to go to the games a single reason for hope right now.

Abused stray dogs :lol:, so true. O line drafting has been crap since Pace in '98 or '97.....no I don't consider Saffold a success. You're wrong about Fisher drafting Sam. I'll bet Kroenke told him to draft Sam since he's from his alma mater and garnering points with the league office knowing he wanted to make the move to LA soon.

Absolutely agree about keeping Fisher serves Kroenke's purpose this season and next.

 

[Rex]

Also, your "whole lotta losing" comment - I won't talk about the one ring because as someone pointed out, as championships go we're right there with your Niners.

All time series between us is basically even. And after 15-20 terrible years, we're still right around .500

As a franchise I don't think that qualifies as a "whole lotta losing"....recently? Yes. As a franchise? No.

No you're right, but the Fisher era has been a complete disaster...........no one should lose as much as he's lost with that many high draft picks.

IMO Fisher is the slam dunk bet your house first firing of the off season.

I don't think so.

 

[Ramfan128]

Feel free to bash Fisher.

Feel free to bash the Rams this season.

But let's not get carried away historically here...

http://nflspinzone.com/2014/08/14/stati ... greatness/



We're 9th. The Seahawks and Cardinals are tied for 20th. The Rams have been suffering for around 20 years now....but that's really just a stretch that most teams go through. The Cardinals and Seahawks were irrelevant from the time of their birth until the early/mid 2000s. Neither of you had ever been to a super bowl. Playoff wins prior to 2000s? Not many.

On top of that: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9571 ... ge/page/14


Our all time winning % is higher....just for those that want to talk about how the Seahawks haven't been around as long. No matter how you slice it, neither the Cardinals nor the Seahawks franchises have ANYTHING on the Rams....not One. Single. Thing.


So bash Fisher...that's fine. He should be fired. Bash St. Louis...whatever. We suck this year. We've been bad for a few years now.

But don't bring up history....because it doesn't look favorable on Seattle or Arizona in any way. I'd think that if any fanbases know what we're going through right now, it'd be you guys.


And before I get accused of bringing up the past like Niner fans do....the original post said "going back to 1990"...that's history, so I brought up some more history.


Feel free to bash me too...I was wrong. I thought the Cardinals wouldn't be good. Thought the Rams would be better. I was dead wrong. Now the Rams have to start over.

Seriously?

Sooooo.......

If I point out the 6th ranking and 5 rings does that make me the winner of the argument?

Come on dude....It's lame when teams with successful histories claim them in this type of argument....but a team with one ring and a whole lotta losing? Don't give me the "before I get accused" argument...you did exactly what Niner fans are constantly accused (and often are guilty) of.

Please.

Only thing that's pertinent is that even after one of the worst offseasons in NFL history the 49ers have the same record as the your Rams who were supposed to have a powerhouse of a roster.

You always claim others are missing the point...meanwhile, you missed the point of my post. The original post brought up history in the first place, I was responding to that.

I have no problem with your jab about the worst offseason in NFL history and the 49ers have the same record as the Rams - that's fine. What I have a problem with, and you would too, is people talking about the Rams franchise history in a bad light. At least from Seahawk and Cardinal fans.

I wasn't saying I "won" any argument. I was bringing all that up because the only people that should be bashed are the recent/current people associated with the organization. Don't worry - the 49ers are still the worst team in the division as evidenced by the fact that we beat you 27-6 earlier this year.


Comments like "same old sorry a$$ Rams" from Cardinal and Seahawk fans is incredibly hypocritical - I was just pointing that out.

Feel free to continue bashing the current Rams organization. If they fired everyone in the front office I would be happy.

Original poster brought up history since 1990. He was referring to Ram futility of the recent past (and yes...sadly I'm old enough to consider 1990 as "recent").

All of the sudden that becomes a history lesson and eventual discussion of Championships won in the DISTANT past with no bearing whatsoever on recent history or today.

As a part of a fan base that is CONSTANTLY accused of referring to the past (and admittedly, we sometimes do), I found it particularly ironic to bring up that history and in the same breath not wanting to be associated with Niner fans who do precisely what you were doing.

You don't see me pumping out my chest and bragging about the Niner SB wins. There is a to0n of history there...but ya know what? IT DOESN'T MATTER.

You making a comment in regards to DeBartolo being a cheater? What on earth did that have to do with ANYTHING? My entire point was that history doesn't matter, so why take a dig at the manner in which you perceive those championships were won?

IE, "MIssing the Point".

I didn't make any point about DeBartolo being a cheater.

I know that the history doesn't matter...I'm fine with that. I want to talk here and now. We suck...Fisher needs to go.

 

[Ramfan128]

Also, your "whole lotta losing" comment - I won't talk about the one ring because as someone pointed out, as championships go we're right there with your Niners.

All time series between us is basically even. And after 15-20 terrible years, we're still right around .500

As a franchise I don't think that qualifies as a "whole lotta losing"....recently? Yes. As a franchise? No.

No you're right, but the Fisher era has been a complete disaster...........no one should lose as much as he's lost with that many high draft picks.

IMO Fisher is the slam dunk bet your house first firing of the off season.

I agree with you and I really really really really hope you're right. I'm afraid he'll get one more year though.

 

[ringless]

Also, your "whole lotta losing" comment - I won't talk about the one ring because as someone pointed out, as championships go we're right there with your Niners.

All time series between us is basically even. And after 15-20 terrible years, we're still right around .500

As a franchise I don't think that qualifies as a "whole lotta losing"....recently? Yes. As a franchise? No.

No you're right, but the Fisher era has been a complete disaster...........no one should lose as much as he's lost with that many high draft picks.

IMO Fisher is the slam dunk bet your house first firing of the off season.

I don't think so.

You are right. Knowing Fisher he will win against Seattle in Seattle. Everyone will believe all the talent finally came together and proved they can beat anyone on any day. He will be back next year, and beat New England, and the Cardinals to start off the season before finishing 7-9

 

[Ramfan128]

When I say same ol sorry ass rams, what I mean is...

How in the hell does a coaching staff mismanage that much talent?

When SF had tons of early draft picks due to sucking, they built and signed the right free agents so that for 3 years they were a feared team. With Alex Smith and Colin I'm going Home! as QBs, fer chrissakes.

STL has turned early draft picks into the best bad team in the NFL. QBS emerge from STL looking like abused stray dogs. Any OL signed or drafted by the Rams soon becomes so terrible you have to assume bust before a snap.

The best QB Fisher ever coached, for winning percentage, was a QB Fisher did not want. Think about that for a second. Vince was so dumb they had to slim the pass book down to about 3 plays, and he couldn't even get those right. Jeff Fisher was able to win with a guy who ignored his plays and just winged it.

Fisher is a HOF special teams coach who somehow has been given a shitload of money to be the one thing he has never been good at, head coaching. He is Roger's little pigeon, drafting Sam when the guy had no chance at cracking that roster to save the league a little pie in the face, and every speech he gives as a member of the rules committee is a laughable joke when you think about how far over the edge of the rules his teams have played going back well before Gurode's head got stepped on.

Truth is, a full stadium in STL is not what the owner needs, or wants, right now. The Rams being same ol sorry ass serves his needs, and keeping Fisher on while they empty the stands leaves them free to point to those empty stands while they pack their bags. Fisher isn't going anywhere right now, Kroenke can't give the fans he doesn't want to go to the games a single reason for hope right now.

I agree with all of this.

 

[Marvin49]

Seriously?

Sooooo.......

If I point out the 6th ranking and 5 rings does that make me the winner of the argument?

Come on dude....It's lame when teams with successful histories claim them in this type of argument....but a team with one ring and a whole lotta losing? Don't give me the "before I get accused" argument...you did exactly what Niner fans are constantly accused (and often are guilty) of.

Please.

Only thing that's pertinent is that even after one of the worst offseasons in NFL history the 49ers have the same record as the your Rams who were supposed to have a powerhouse of a roster.

You always claim others are missing the point...meanwhile, you missed the point of my post. The original post brought up history in the first place, I was responding to that.

I have no problem with your jab about the worst offseason in NFL history and the 49ers have the same record as the Rams - that's fine. What I have a problem with, and you would too, is people talking about the Rams franchise history in a bad light. At least from Seahawk and Cardinal fans.

I wasn't saying I "won" any argument. I was bringing all that up because the only people that should be bashed are the recent/current people associated with the organization. Don't worry - the 49ers are still the worst team in the division as evidenced by the fact that we beat you 27-6 earlier this year.


Comments like "same old sorry a$$ Rams" from Cardinal and Seahawk fans is incredibly hypocritical - I was just pointing that out.

Feel free to continue bashing the current Rams organization. If they fired everyone in the front office I would be happy.

Original poster brought up history since 1990. He was referring to Ram futility of the recent past (and yes...sadly I'm old enough to consider 1990 as "recent").

All of the sudden that becomes a history lesson and eventual discussion of Championships won in the DISTANT past with no bearing whatsoever on recent history or today.

As a part of a fan base that is CONSTANTLY accused of referring to the past (and admittedly, we sometimes do), I found it particularly ironic to bring up that history and in the same breath not wanting to be associated with Niner fans who do precisely what you were doing.

You don't see me pumping out my chest and bragging about the Niner SB wins. There is a to0n of history there...but ya know what? IT DOESN'T MATTER.

You making a comment in regards to DeBartolo being a cheater? What on earth did that have to do with ANYTHING? My entire point was that history doesn't matter, so why take a dig at the manner in which you perceive those championships were won?

IE, "MIssing the Point".

I didn't make any point about DeBartolo being a cheater.

I know that the history doesn't matter...I'm fine with that. I want to talk here and now. We suck...Fisher needs to go.

Doh.

You are correct. I mistook that post as coming from you. My apologies.

At least we can rejoice in knowing our hapless football teams can co-inhabit the cellar of the NFC West this year...or at least for now. We'll see what happens in week 17.

 

[Laloosh]

Also, your "whole lotta losing" comment - I won't talk about the one ring because as someone pointed out, as championships go we're right there with your Niners.

All time series between us is basically even. And after 15-20 terrible years, we're still right around .500

As a franchise I don't think that qualifies as a "whole lotta losing"....recently? Yes. As a franchise? No.

No you're right, but the Fisher era has been a complete disaster...........no one should lose as much as he's lost with that many high draft picks.

IMO Fisher is the slam dunk bet your house first firing of the off season.

I don't think so.

You are right. Knowing Fisher he will win against Seattle in Seattle. Everyone will believe all the talent finally came together and proved they can beat anyone on any day. He will be back next year, and beat New England, and the Cardinals to start off the season before finishing 7-9

You shut your filthy mouth! :thfight7:

:sarcasm_on:

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

When I say same ol sorry ass rams, what I mean is...

How in the hell does a coaching staff mismanage that much talent?

When SF had tons of early draft picks due to sucking, they built and signed the right free agents so that for 3 years they were a feared team. With Alex Smith and Colin I'm going Home! as QBs, fer chrissakes.

STL has turned early draft picks into the best bad team in the NFL. QBS emerge from STL looking like abused stray dogs. Any OL signed or drafted by the Rams soon becomes so terrible you have to assume bust before a snap.

The best QB Fisher ever coached, for winning percentage, was a QB Fisher did not want. Think about that for a second. Vince was so dumb they had to slim the pass book down to about 3 plays, and he couldn't even get those right. Jeff Fisher was able to win with a guy who ignored his plays and just winged it.

Fisher is a HOF special teams coach who somehow has been given a shitload of money to be the one thing he has never been good at, head coaching. He is Roger's little pigeon, drafting Sam when the guy had no chance at cracking that roster to save the league a little pie in the face, and every speech he gives as a member of the rules committee is a laughable joke when you think about how far over the edge of the rules his teams have played going back well before Gurode's head got stepped on.

Truth is, a full stadium in STL is not what the owner needs, or wants, right now. The Rams being same ol sorry ass serves his needs, and keeping Fisher on while they empty the stands leaves them free to point to those empty stands while they pack their bags. Fisher isn't going anywhere right now, Kroenke can't give the fans he doesn't want to go to the games a single reason for hope right now.

Spot on with every point. I do think Fisher will be fired after the move to L.A. is announced in an effort to sell more tix.

 

[chris98251]

Lose games, lose attendance, lose hope, formula for moving a franchise, Seems like the league wants a Chargers Rams alliance for L.A. willing to help Oakland get a stadium done and help finance it from my understanding with the relocation fee's about to be charged to the Rams and Chargers.

Once moved and settled in Fisher is done, big name coach will take over, who is anyone's guess, betting the pull someone out of retirement, Gruden, Cowher, Holmgren, they will need a name and credibility. the coach will get paid well over other contracts also I am betting. It's L.A. it has to be big. and Kronke, Kareoke, Cronkite how ever you spell it has to make a statement going forward about winning.

 

[Largent80]

:lol: ...They lucked out and won that overtime game vs. The Hawks and sucked ass since. Hahahaha.

 

[RedAlice]

Lose games, lose attendance, lose hope, formula for moving a franchise, Seems like the league wants a Chargers Rams alliance for L.A. willing to help Oakland get a stadium done and help finance it from my understanding with the relocation fee's about to be charged to the Rams and Chargers.

Once moved and settled in Fisher is done, big name coach will take over, who is anyone's guess, betting the pull someone out of retirement, Gruden, Cowher, Holmgren, they will need a name and credibility. the coach will get paid well over other contracts also I am betting. It's L.A. it has to be big. and Kronke, Kareoke, Cronkite how ever you spell it has to make a statement going forward about winning.

Agree with all of this.

Also, anyone who thinks firing the OC will make a difference - Fisher thinks this allows him to have the O run the ball more. So, more of what's been failing.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Lose games, lose attendance, lose hope, formula for moving a franchise, Seems like the league wants a Chargers Rams alliance for L.A. willing to help Oakland get a stadium done and help finance it from my understanding with the relocation fee's about to be charged to the Rams and Chargers.

Once moved and settled in Fisher is done, big name coach will take over, who is anyone's guess, betting the pull someone out of retirement, Gruden, Cowher, Holmgren, they will need a name and credibility. the coach will get paid well over other contracts also I am betting. It's L.A. it has to be big. and Kronke, Kareoke, Cronkite how ever you spell it has to make a statement going forward about winning.

Exactly how I see all this stuff too.