The bears game is pretty much meaningless

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Meaningless? No. Until we are officially eliminated, this game means plenty.
I believe it's meaningless in regards to our playoff chances. If the Rams beat the Cards, we're done anyway. If the Rams lose to the Cards, it's winner-take-all for the division the following week regardless of whether we beat the Bears.

Don't want to go into the final game on three-game losing streak though, especially with the final game snapping the Bears nine-game losing streak.

On the plus side, that situation means we don't have to push any hobbled players back into action, like we might have been tempted to had the game been absolutely necessary to win.
 
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Meaningless? No. Until we are officially eliminated, this game means plenty.

It is meaningless because our only path to the playoffs is the Rams losing their final two games. If we lose to the bears and they lose the Cardinals the final game is for the division but if they beat the Cardinals the Rams clinch the division.
 

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I believe it's meaningless in regards to our playoff chances. If the Rams beat the Cards, we're done anyway. If the Rams lose to the Cards, it's winner-take-all for the division the following week regardless of whether we beat the Bears.

Don't want to go into the final game on three-game losing streak though, especially with the final game snapping the Bears nine-game losing streak.

On the plus side, that situation means we don't have to push any hobbled players back into action, like we might have been tempted to had the game been absolutely necessary to win.
We're not eliminated. This game is far from meaningless.

We are playing Thursday, BEFORE the Clams play the Cards. This game means a lot.
 

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It's not meaningless. According to what I saw, we have a 24% chance of making the playoffs.

But we don't control our own destiny. If we tie with either the Rams for the division or the Commanders for the last wild card seed, they both own the tiebreaker with us, ie conference W/L percentage. So, our only hope is that the Rams lose to the Cards and we win our last two.
 
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It's not meaningless. According to what I saw, we have a 24% chance of making the playoffs.

But we don't control our own destiny. If we tie with either the Rams for the division or the Commanders for the last wild card seed, they both own the tiebreaker with us, ie conference W/L percentage. So, our only hope is that the Rams lose to the Cards and we win our last two.

If the Rams lose to the Cardinals and to us we hold the tie breaker for better division record.
 

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The Bears game doesn't matter for getting into the playoffs, but I suppose it could matter for playoff seeding. If it puts us behind the NFC South champion, that'd have us as the 4 seed instead of the 3. Most likely the 3 means hosting Green Bay, while the 4 means hosting either Minnesota or Detroit (probably Minnesota). Strangely, that would be a silver lining to losing to the Bears, because I want nothing to do with Green Bay in Seattle again.
 

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The Bears game doesn't matter for getting into the playoffs, but I suppose it could matter for playoff seeding. If it puts us behind the NFC South champion, that'd have us as the 4 seed instead of the 3. Most likely the 3 means hosting Green Bay, while the 4 means hosting either Minnesota or Detroit (probably Minnesota). Strangely, that would be a silver lining to losing to the Bears, because I want nothing to do with Green Bay in Seattle again.
Yes, it does matter for getting into the playoffs. We have to beat both the Rams and the Bears in order to have a better conference record. We currently have a 4-6 conference record; the Rams have a 5-5 record. If the Rams lose out, they end with a 5-7 record and if we win out, we'll have a 6-6 record.
 

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It's not meaningless. According to what I saw, we have a 24% chance of making the playoffs.

But we don't control our own destiny. If we tie with either the Rams for the division or the Commanders for the last wild card seed, they both own the tiebreaker with us, ie conference W/L percentage. So, our only hope is that the Rams lose to the Cards and we win our last two.
Not trying to argue with people. But in what world is a game meaningless? I guess I just look at things differently.
 

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Yes, it does matter. We have to beat both the Rams and the Bears in order to have a better conference record.
Tiebreaker can't go to conference record if the Rams lose this week. We'd be tied for the division, and that's before conference record in the division tiebreakers.
 

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Not trying to argue with people. But in what world is a game meaningless? I guess I just look at things differently.
You're taking "meaningless" too literally.

No, the game is not absolutely, positively meaningless because there are things to take from it, momentum and whatever. OP is calling it meaningless strictly in the sense of how it factors into the objective formula that decides the division winner.
 

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Tiebreaker can't go to conference record if the Rams lose this week. We'd be tied for the division, and that's before conference record in the division tiebreakers.
Yes, you're right, but if we lose to the Bears and the Rams beat the Cards, they'll have a 2-game lead going into the finale.

Bottom line is that the Bears game matters for us getting into the playoffs. It's not meaningless, at least not at this point.
 

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