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LOL.. we gave him a trans offer.
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Bobblehead
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Holmgren said, Steve came to him, balling like a baby.. no way did he want to leave Seattle.
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Which allowed us to match any offer.
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Yeah, transaction tag which was rather insulting and a sign of indifference.. If you wanted him, you slap the franchise tag.. otherwise, it's a what ever, maybe we will, maybe we won't.
The anger directed at Steve Hutchinson is recycled from time to time out of a common addiction among some of our fellow members for a need for emotional anger. Most of our forum adults are familiar with these outbursts.
A description of the origin of the term poison pill follows.
'Poison Pills' Are No Longer Allowed in NFL Contracts—Here's Why
The offer: seven seasons for $49 million. The clause, which doubled as the catch: if another offensive lineman made more than Hutchinson in any one season, the entire deal would be guaranteed. And since they’d used the transition tag on Hutchinson, Seattle had to choose to either match the Vikings’ contract word-for-word or let their man walk. This presented a problem for the Seahawks, who had just signed Jones to that massive extension and had paid Hutchinson just over $3.5 million the year before. So, if they chose to match, Hutchinson’s salary would eventually be lower than what Jones made, guaranteeing the offer and making it expensive, if not prohibitive. Worse yet: Hutchinson and his representatives agreed to Minnesota’s offer.
Before the clock on the one week Seattle had to match started ticking, Holmgren received an ominous warning at his meetings. It was delivered by John Clayton, the late and perpetually informed NFL scribe. When they bumped into each other in a hallway, Clayton said, “You’re trading Hutchinson.” Holmgren laughed, signaling no way, telling Clayton that when he left not even 24 hours earlier, the plan to slap the franchise tag on Hutchinson was firmly in place.
“Mike,” Clayton said, “I don’t think so.”
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"Thus began the five stages of grief" ----- which persists within some of our forum members to this very day.
Since Hutchinson joined John Schneider's scouting team, he's worked at scouting collegiate linemen for the Seattle Seahawks. I think the best is yet to come.
A description of the origin of the term poison pill follows.
'Poison Pills' Are No Longer Allowed in NFL Contracts—Here's Why 
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/05/20/nfl-poison-pill-contract-holmgren-hutchinson
The offer: seven seasons for $49 million. The clause, which doubled as the catch: if another offensive lineman made more than Hutchinson in any one season, the entire deal would be guaranteed. And since they’d used the transition tag on Hutchinson, Seattle had to choose to either match the Vikings’ contract word-for-word or let their man walk. This presented a problem for the Seahawks, who had just signed Jones to that massive extension and had paid Hutchinson just over $3.5 million the year before. So, if they chose to match, Hutchinson’s salary would eventually be lower than what Jones made, guaranteeing the offer and making it expensive, if not prohibitive. Worse yet: Hutchinson and his representatives agreed to Minnesota’s offer.
Before the clock on the one week Seattle had to match started ticking, Holmgren received an ominous warning at his meetings. It was delivered by John Clayton, the late and perpetually informed NFL scribe. When they bumped into each other in a hallway, Clayton said, “You’re trading Hutchinson.” Holmgren laughed, signaling no way, telling Clayton that when he left not even 24 hours earlier, the plan to slap the franchise tag on Hutchinson was firmly in place.
“Mike,” Clayton said, “I don’t think so.”
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"Thus began the five stages of grief" ----- which persists within some of our forum members to this very day.
Since Hutchinson joined John Schneider's scouting team, he's worked at scouting collegiate linemen for the Seattle Seahawks. I think the best is yet to come.
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BlueTalon
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Oh FFS dude, that transition tag allowed Hutch to receive TWO contract offers for 7 years $49M in the span of a week. Tell me again how insulting that is.
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He wanted to stay in Seattle? He is the one who asked for the poison pill language to be in the contract! He's the one who made it prohibitive for Seattle to match MN's contract offer as written.
Well, Hutch and the Special Master, both.
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If he wanted to stay in Seattle, he had a funny way of showing it, and he made no effort to return.
Correction ...... once he collected his considerable contract money, he did return to scout for the Seahawks.
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I meant as a player, but yeah.
“I don’t want to do it,” Holmgren added. “But the guys next door, the front office, they are going to write it.”
Which, of course, they did. Seattle’s offer contained multiple poison pills that spoke nakedly to its main aim: revenge. One clause stated that Burleson’s deal would be guaranteed in full if he played more than five games in any one season in Minnesota. Even if the Vikings wanted to match the offer, they could not, and what had started as a workaround had morphed into something bigger, more spiteful; Holmgren’s revenge served not cold but hot.
Minnesota ultimately ended up on the better end of the exchange. Burleson compiled an average of 439.5 receiving yards in four seasons as a Seahawk. Hutchinson made the Pro Bowl in his first four seasons with the Vikings, remained perhaps pro football’s most dominant guard and reset the market at his position. Essentially, he was exactly the kind of player who would force a historic moment—so elite that a team that coveted him would go to great lengths to obtain his services and so valued that the team that lost him would create its own transaction in response out of no more than hurt feelings.
'Poison Pills' Are No Longer Allowed in NFL Contracts—Here's Why
Which, of course, they did. Seattle’s offer contained multiple poison pills that spoke nakedly to its main aim: revenge. One clause stated that Burleson’s deal would be guaranteed in full if he played more than five games in any one season in Minnesota. Even if the Vikings wanted to match the offer, they could not, and what had started as a workaround had morphed into something bigger, more spiteful; Holmgren’s revenge served not cold but hot.
Minnesota ultimately ended up on the better end of the exchange. Burleson compiled an average of 439.5 receiving yards in four seasons as a Seahawk. Hutchinson made the Pro Bowl in his first four seasons with the Vikings, remained perhaps pro football’s most dominant guard and reset the market at his position. Essentially, he was exactly the kind of player who would force a historic moment—so elite that a team that coveted him would go to great lengths to obtain his services and so valued that the team that lost him would create its own transaction in response out of no more than hurt feelings.
'Poison Pills' Are No Longer Allowed in NFL Contracts—Here's Why 
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/05/20/nfl-poison-pill-contract-holmgren-hutchinson
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It is weird that none of the websites posted mention the contract caveat that the guarantee was timed so the Seahawks could not rework Walt's deal to make Hutchinson the highest paid linemen which we talked to Walt about doing.
For those of you who swallowed the agents explanation, please explain why you think Ruskell (apparently you believe of his own volition) decided to change his mind about the franchise tag and gave the agent the ability to see what his client could earn on the open market? The franchise tag gave the Seahawks all the power and kept his client trapped. It also would have screwed Condon out of a very large pay day.
For those of you who swallowed the agents explanation, please explain why you think Ruskell (apparently you believe of his own volition) decided to change his mind about the franchise tag and gave the agent the ability to see what his client could earn on the open market? The franchise tag gave the Seahawks all the power and kept his client trapped. It also would have screwed Condon out of a very large pay day.
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John Morgan, please pick up the white courtesy phone...
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At the time, I ranked Hutch right up there with Alex Rodriguez in terms of respect. He could have signed with us for a very reasonable, market rate contract but he wanted to make such a humongous amount with a team that wasn't that he knew we couldn't match. IMO the guy was a first-class jerk.
But time heals all wounds. He's a decent guy who has tried to do some good for the community:
Along with enjoying the perks of his new job, Hutchinson has also remained active in the community, as he's currently teaming up with Lowe's as part of their "Home Team Initiative." As part of the project, collaborating with the non-profit Sound Foundations Northwest, he will be helping build 50 tiny homes to provide temporary residences for homeless people and families in the Seattle region.
According to Hutchinson, over a third of the people provided with the opportunity to live in such temporary housing are able to successfully get back on track. He's hopeful through his partnership with Lowe's that he will be able to help get numerous people off of the street and better their lives moving forward.
"They're able to whip out four of these little houses that can house up to two people or a small family to get them off the streets. You see the people underneath the over passes in the inclement weather, which in this town is all the time. It's just a very tangible solution."
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He's trying to help us get another Lombardi, so I say lighten up on the guy.
But time heals all wounds. He's a decent guy who has tried to do some good for the community:
Along with enjoying the perks of his new job, Hutchinson has also remained active in the community, as he's currently teaming up with Lowe's as part of their "Home Team Initiative." As part of the project, collaborating with the non-profit Sound Foundations Northwest, he will be helping build 50 tiny homes to provide temporary residences for homeless people and families in the Seattle region.
According to Hutchinson, over a third of the people provided with the opportunity to live in such temporary housing are able to successfully get back on track. He's hopeful through his partnership with Lowe's that he will be able to help get numerous people off of the street and better their lives moving forward.
"They're able to whip out four of these little houses that can house up to two people or a small family to get them off the streets. You see the people underneath the over passes in the inclement weather, which in this town is all the time. It's just a very tangible solution."
Thriving in Consultant Role, Seahawks Hall of Famer Steve Hutchinson's Career Comes Full Circle
At halftime of Thursday's prime time contest against the Rams, Hutchinson will be presented with his Hall of Fame ring, culminating one of the best careers in franchise history with a sellout crowd of 12s in attendance.
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He's trying to help us get another Lombardi, so I say lighten up on the guy.
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BlueTalon
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Part of the reason the Seahawks did the Nate Burleson contract offer the way they did was that MN was trying to get us to part with a 2nd round pick, since , ya know, our 3rd round pick was so low. After abusing us with the Hutch thing, they had the gall to try that. So the Seahawks got creative.
It was never going to be Hutch-in-reverse, it was basically just making a point. Personally, I take far more joy in the fact that the Vikings spent all that money on Hutch, then didn't make the playoffs for a couple of years. Then one & done, then finally a playoff win, then the wheels fell off again.
Likely got Holmgren fired also. With Hutch and big Walt back there together, everything would be different.
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It's not the point, the point is, he was promised by the GM the Franchise tag..Holmgren even confirmed it with him and while Holmgren was on vaca..he was awarded the Trans tag...BTW you know if the trans tag is so good, why has there been only like 6 since its inception awarded to players?
