Sonics/NHL/New arena thread

[twisted_steel2]

I mean I don't think Tacoma will ever happen, I expect people to keep trying to Seattle and failing because Seattle just sucks

What ever happened to that group that was talking about Tukwila? How about, where does Hockey make the most sense?

I think some (or 1)of his big investors fell out. And he missed a payment to the city he was suppose to make? unno: That's just off the top of my head, I'd have to go do some google-fu to know for sure.

 

[twisted_steel2]

Hansen isn't going to Tacoma. I personally think making money is far more important to him than the Sonics. Most owners are happy to make hundreds of millions in profit from appreciation of the franchise. Not Hansen. He also wants the relative nickels and dimes from the restaurants, shops and parking lots, which are maximized in the city. He constantly gets asked "why Seattle? Why not go to Bellevue or Tukwila?" He never really answers. Heck, he'd have everything approved by now in either of those places. He's going to keep working on his Seattle project.

I honestly think the Seattle dream is over, the city council relationship has soured and even turned contentious and nasty. If they can't even vote yes on a simple vacating of a side street how are they going to vote yes on the other more complicated issues moving forward.

That doesn't mean Hansen's done, but I do think he's done in Seattle.

Yep, as long as KeyArena is around, I don't think a new basketball/hockey arena is ever going to get built within Seattle. They (SCC) and the KeyArena are like Siamese twins sharing a brain. Will never be separated.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I mean I don't think Tacoma will ever happen, I expect people to keep trying to Seattle and failing because Seattle just sucks

What ever happened to that group that was talking about Tukwila? How about, where does Hockey make the most sense?

I think some (or 1)of his big investors fell out. And he missed a payment to the city he was suppose to make? unno: That's just off the top of my head, I'd have to go do some google-fu to know for sure.

The Tukwila group ran for the hills as soon as it was time to pony up the 500 million expansion fee the NHL said it'd cost.

There's been a LOT of pretenders over the past couple of years on the radio and in the press telling us they're serious, but Hansen's the only one who's put his wallet where his mouth is.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

I mean I don't think Tacoma will ever happen, I expect people to keep trying to Seattle and failing because Seattle just sucks

What ever happened to that group that was talking about Tukwila? How about, where does Hockey make the most sense?

I think some (or 1)of his big investors fell out. And he missed a payment to the city he was suppose to make? unno: That's just off the top of my head, I'd have to go do some google-fu to know for sure.

The Tukwila group ran for the hills as soon as it was time to pony up the 500 million expansion fee the NHL said it'd cost.

There's been a LOT of pretenders over the past couple of years on the radio and in the press telling us they're serious, but Hansen's the only one who's put his wallet where his mouth is.

Definitely a lot of pretenders or people who want the limelight but if I was buying a team, i'd be patient and buy a struggling one like Arizona for cheaper than the expansion fee and move them, inheriting their draft position, some of their better players etc rather than the headache of being an expansion draft team.

I think the NHL go greedy with their expansion fee thinking lots of people would pay it when in reality only Vegas did, with the Canadian economy effecting Quebec and Seattle not ready.

If I was a potential NBA/NHL owner i'd also publicly be calling out the Mariners/Port/SCC in the media saying. Okay your committed to bring NBA/NHL to Seattle but not just at SODO, fine...be a minority partner with me for another arena location. Put your money where your mouth is and show your really committed.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Definitely a lot of pretenders or people who want the limelight but if I was buying a team, i'd be patient and buy a struggling one like Arizona for cheaper than the expansion fee and move them, inheriting their draft position, some of their better players etc rather than the headache of being an expansion draft team..

That's the catch-22 though, I think both the NBA and NHL are wide open to a team relocating, or being sold to a Seattle group........but there has to be a plan in place that's 100% green lit. Neither league is going to approve a team moving to Seattle, or being sold to a group from Seattle without a new arena.

If cities like Tacoma, Tukwila and Bellevue want in, then they're going to have to not only pay for at least 50% of a new arena, but they're going to have to stick their neck out giving 100% approval for a super expensive arena without a guarantee of a team.

 

[chris98251]

Seen a news story last night regarding the Panama Canal expansion, guess who was in it the Seattle Port Authority and part of the story was about expanding the Seattle Port to accommodate the Super Cargo Container ships, I wonder where they plan on doing that expansion and if they need a vote concerning the environmental factors as well as possible vacation needs and property that Hansen now owns. Funny they are down there in such proximity to the vote and are making these plans to hopefully stop ships from going past Seattle and thru the Canal and on to the Gulf and East coast.

Smells fishy, coincidence does not happen like that, they has to plan to make this trip. and the Panama expansion has been going on.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_xUQZ0Oikg


:roll: Essentially saying here 'vote for me and i'll help bring the Sonics back'

Then gets mad when Sonics fans question her vote a few years later.

I understand people are against the arena, I get people don't like sports and don't want cities spending money on them but be upfront about your views, especially if your going to get elected. Don't use people by saying one thing, going to the Chris Hansons party then do a 180 when it comes to the crunch.

Come election time if she was in my district I wouldn't be mad that she voted no, i'd be mad that she lied about it and used people and hope she gets voted out. I wouldn't vote for a politician over a single issue and if the local person in my district is against it and is up front about it but has other areas I agree on then that one issue wouldn't necessarily stop me voting for them. It's the blatant lies that piss me off.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

http://ktar.com/story/1071622/not-happe ... -glendale/

Any way they could change the MOU for hockey and have a revote on the street vacation before the current MOU runs out?

Even if it meant playing at Key arena for a few year which is terrible for hockey.

 

[Throwdown]

Nah

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

http://q13fox.com/2016/05/16/uncovered- ... dquarters/

May explain a lot

 

[Sports Hernia]

http://q13fox.com/2016/05/16/uncovered-emails-raise-questions-on-whether-port-of-seattle-considered-sodo-arena-site-for-its-headquarters/

May explain a lot

I kind of suspected something like this.
The Port is a shady entity.

 

[Throwdown]

Lol so they're salty little bitches?

 

[twisted_steel2]

http://www.sonicsrising.com/2016/7/15/1 ... nba-effort

We recently asked the Ackerley brothers for comment on our July 2 report that they are involved in an effort to bring the NBA back to Seattle. They responded with the following statement, which we present without commentary.

Seattle is a world class city with a rich basketball history and we believe it deserves an NBA team, alongside its other thriving professional sports franchises. Seattle is also our home, and we are committed to helping in any way we can to bring the NBA back to the city.

We have a long-term approach in all our civic, philanthropic, and business engagements. Securing a franchise is a complicated, long-term process. Along the way, it will require support and collaboration from the Seattle community and it won't happen overnight. We will continue to do what we can to help achieve this goal and we look forward to the day when Seattle can celebrate the return of an important civic institution like the Seattle Supersonics.

Christopher Ackerley and Ted Ackerley

Barry Ackerleys kids.

 

[KitsapGuy]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ChrisDaniels5/status/779064032175263745[/tweet]

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I feel sorry for Hansen with how this has all turned out..............but don't feel too sorry for him. Spending 100M on property that's going to be worth 200M in 10-20 years isn't the worst financial move he'll ever make.

 

[Sports Hernia]

I think it's 3 fold. Land for the arena, still a great investment if potential arena deal dies for good, a big middle finger to the port of Seattle since they want that land. Hanson will make a healthy profit on this and probably even more so if an arena deal doesn't get done as that land value is only going to skyrocket.

 

[TestMo1337]

Give credit to this guys resolve. I would have quit 7 years ago...

 

[KitsapGuy]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/scohenPI/status/788550254148718592[/tweet]

 

[Sgt. Largent]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/scohenPI/status/788550254148718592[/tweet]

Hansen can buy all the property he wants, but until he gets the support of the city and county councils this will never happen. Cause right now they're in the back pocket of the port.

I also think Hansen's plan took a big blow when Balmer bought the Clippers. Balmer was not only a major player in Seattle, but his bank roll legitimized Hansen to the NBA owners as a potential owner that had strong financial and political backing.

 

[chris98251]

He would not continue this unless he had some information that was favorable somewhere, Port commissioners come and go, mayors come and go, city councilmen come and go,