Sonics/NHL/New arena thread

[Sports Hernia]

Mariners new owner still against the arena, I really hate those people.

I think that was not throwing Lincoln under the bus. The new owner is a former minority owner of the Sonics. I bet his attitude "magically" changes once Lincoln is completely gone in August.

 

[KitsapGuy]

Three Seattle sports franchises and the Seattle Arena investment group have struck a deal on scheduling.

The Seattle City Council will announce Thursday it has brokered a deal between the Seattle Mariners, Seahawks, Sounders FC, and Chris Hansen’s Seattle Arena investment group on an agreement to manage time and traffic in Seattle’s SODO neighborhood. First and Goal, the Washington State Public Stadium Authority, and the Seattle Public Facilities District also had a hand in the negotiations.

The Mariners, in particular, had made the scheduling agreement a key argument in their opposition to the planned arena development, which would be built just south of Safeco Field.

The agreement will now be a key amendment to the legislation to vacate a one-block stretch of Occidental Avenue, allowing Hansen’s group to build his planned NBA/NHL Arena. The council is slated to vote on the legislation Monday -- the last approval needed before the City of Seattle grants a Master Use Permit for the project.

Two sources with knowledge of the agreement say it is “very comprehensive” and “detailed” and also covers game time easements and access. It also prohibits late afternoon events that would conflict with the Port of Seattle and Northwest SeaPort Alliance operations. The agreement also prevents events at Hansen's arena between the hours of 4 p.m. and 7 p.m. It also calls for a three-hour separation of events between the three potential venues, with some protocols for exceptions, such as for playoff games.

The negotiations have been ongoing for about a week and a half. Those same sources involved with the negotiations have described the Mariners representatives as “very good” and “fantastic” in hammering out the deal.

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[Sgt. Largent]

Mariners new owner still against the arena, I really hate those people.

I think that was not throwing Lincoln under the bus. The new owner is a former minority owner of the Sonics. I bet his attitude "magically" changes once Lincoln is completely gone in August.

Why would you think this?

Stanton now has an even BIGGER reason to not want the new arena, he's an owner of the Mariners. His first priority is not to be sympathetic to a team he used to partially own, it's to do what's in the best interest of the M's..............and that's to toe the company line of not wanting the competition.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Mariners new owner still against the arena, I really hate those people.

I think that was not throwing Lincoln under the bus. The new owner is a former minority owner of the Sonics. I bet his attitude "magically" changes once Lincoln is completely gone in August.

Why would you think this?

Stanton now has an even BIGGER reason to not want the new arena, he's an owner of the Mariners. His first priority is not to be sympathetic to a team he used to partially own, it's to do what's in the best interest of the M's..............and that's to toe the company line of not wanting the competition.

If the Mariners win on the field they won't have to worry about competition.

Go back and look at the M's league leading attendance numbers when they were winning on a consistent basis. I believe this new guy realizes this, but time will tell.


He claims to be a lifelong Seattle sports fan, I believe that. The Mariners in owning Root sports, could very well profit handsomely off of one or both new teams if they can carry their games on Root.

I've heard from many unconfirmed sources that the anti-arena thing is mainly a Howard Lincoln thing.

That is not saying others in the Mariners org don't have "some" concern over how a new arena would play out, they just are not so dead set against it and would be willing to work with the new teams (see the scheduling issue resolved up thread).

I'm willing to bet the Mariners org will kick up a lot less dust over the arena issue and the port and times will be left blowing in the wind. Just my opinion of course. Time will tell if my opinion is right or wrong on this.

 

[chris98251]

New M's Owner, obstacles begin to fall down, coincidence?

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Mariners new owner still against the arena, I really hate those people.

I think that was not throwing Lincoln under the bus. The new owner is a former minority owner of the Sonics. I bet his attitude "magically" changes once Lincoln is completely gone in August.

Why would you think this?

Stanton now has an even BIGGER reason to not want the new arena, he's an owner of the Mariners. His first priority is not to be sympathetic to a team he used to partially own, it's to do what's in the best interest of the M's..............and that's to toe the company line of not wanting the competition.

If the Mariners win on the field they won't have to worry about competition.

Go back and look at the M's league leading attendance numbers when they were winning on a consistent basis. I believe this new guy realizes this, but time will tell.


He claims to be a lifelong Seattle sports fan, I believe that. The Mariners in owning Root sports, could very well profit handsomely off of one or both new teams if they can carry their games on Root.

I've heard from many unconfirmed sources that the anti-arena thing is mainly a Howard Lincoln thing.

That is not saying others in the Mariners org don't have "some" concern over how a new arena would play out, they just are not so dead set against it and would be willing to work with the new teams (see the scheduling issue resolved up thread).

I'm willing to bet the Mariners org will kick up a lot less dust over the arena issue and the port and times will be left blowing in the wind. Just my opinion of course. Time will tell if my opinion is right or wrong on this.

Then why would Stanton have already made a negative comment about the new arena?

Seems to me he's content with staying the course with being opposed to the new arena. If he thought otherwise, he would have been more diplomatic yesterday when asked. Doubt Stanton gives a rat's ass about Lincoln's opinion on anything, that's why he told him to "retire."

 

[chris98251]

It's Baseball, Stanton has to play both sides of the fence in the media and get a feel for all the politics involved, he is a Basketball guy also, he may say one thing for Baseball and the Mariners and to keep peace in the house but be more easily negotiated with and compromise.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

It's Baseball, Stanton has to play both sides of the fence in the media and get a feel for all the politics involved, he is a Basketball guy also, he may say one thing for Baseball and the Mariners and to keep peace in the house but be more easily negotiated with and compromise.

But he only played one side of the fence, he was pretty damn clear about his opinion. Not sure how you guys are trying to spin this into he hasn't made up his mind yet.

 

[chris98251]

Because No can still men yes, even if your not a product of the 60's and 70's :0

 

[Sports Hernia]

It's Baseball, Stanton has to play both sides of the fence in the media and get a feel for all the politics involved, he is a Basketball guy also, he may say one thing for Baseball and the Mariners and to keep peace in the house but be more easily negotiated with and compromise.

But he only played one side of the fence, he was pretty damn clear about his opinion. Not sure how you guys are trying to spin this into he hasn't made up his mind yet.

I respectfully disagree, no worries.

 

[twisted_steel2]

Vote failed for Occidental street vacation.



Unreal.

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I'm kind of upset about this.... shocked but not surprised. This city man... I just dont know anymore. :roll:

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Port of Seattle is too strong.

But I hear Ray Bartoszek has some land in Tukwila...

 

[twisted_steel2]

All the Sonic fans and NHL fan hopefuls.

 

[Seahawk Sailor]

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[twisted_steel2]

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That right there sums up Seattle politics.

 

[Throwdown]

Welp... This one hurts, Seattle politics turned their back on us again.

 

[KitsapGuy]

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[chris98251]

Just proves that the Seattle City Council are liars and corrupt. Again this isn't nothing new to most of us, now watch them come back with we would support Mr. Hansen investing in the Key Arena Project.

 

[Tech Worlds]

Thanks Seattle City Council, Thanks Port of Seattle, Thanks Seattle Mariners, and Thanks Seattle Times.

You all have screwed Sonic fans yet again. You can all go screw yourselves.

I am done. I hate Seattle. Hate the BS that has festered there for the last ten years. Screw you Mariners, Screw you Seattle Times and your agenda.

You all suck and I will root for your demise. I can wait until you are all 6 feet under.

 

[jkitsune]

So ridiculously absurd. I can't imagine why anyone in the sports world would want to do business with this city.