Should we pay Ifedi?

[Mad Dog]

Absolutely not. Throughout his entire career he's been graded as one of the worst lineman in the NFL. He has also been the most penalized player in both 2018 and he was leading the league in penalties in 2019. Ifedi is not a good player, and he makes stupid decisions come game time. He is not worth keeping, we can do better than Ifedi, it wouldn't be very hard to do. The Seahawks also go through great lengths to give him extra help via play calling and TE/RB.

Ifedi is the weak link on our line, he needs to go.

Name one RT we've had that's better than Ifedi and tell me again how easy it is to find them?

Giacomini? Britt? Webb? Fant? They've all been pretty bad, dumb or injury prone.

Last 4 weeks I've barely heard Ifedi's name called or seen him blown up and he's been good in the run game. He may not be good but he's serviceable and these days finding serviceable tackles is a challenge. We need to spend the draft capital on a LT.

I say offer Ifedi a market average RT deal. If someone offers him a top of the market contract, let him walk. But I'd not toss him aside easily given difficulties finding talent at that position. It's not as easy as you guys seem to think.

 

[sutz]

I'd make him an offer, at least. Continuity is still the biggest thing with OL, and having a decent player that works well with his teammates is something you don't just toss to the curb. I really don't want to do another "Hey! Let's get 4 new starters on the OL, and for real excitement let's make 2 or 3 of them cheap rookies" season.

I wouldn't go into a bidding war for him, but I'm not so sure there will be one.

Oh, and he's not as bad as the haters on here are saying, not any more. People tend to put up clips of how poorly they do against DEs that make everybody look foolish.

:229031_shrug:

 

[raisethe3]

Okay, for those who say they would pay him. How much would you pay him per year? Also how many years would you be willing to invest in him? 3 years/5 million per year? 5 years/4 million/year? 2 years/6 million/year?

Don't take my numbers seriously, just setting an example.

 

[FlyingGreg]

They already declined to pick up his option. That's a pretty clear indicator they are prepared to move on.

 

[had2bhawk]

I think it would be short sighted to let him go easily. Not saying we should open the vaults but paying him a market value contract is not unreasonable given the dearth of OT talent in the league.
It's tough finding a decent tackle anywhere these days.

Things that Ifedi brings: Size, toughness and health
Things that Ifedi still has issues with: technique, footwork
Things that have clearly improved: Discipline

Guy is available and serviceable and really that's better than a lot of tackles playing today. I think it was a mistake to let Okung and Carpenter walk so easily. We scrambled for years to get decent replacements. So while he is far from my favorite player, he's improved every year and has played almost every game. Don't low ball him but don't offer the farm.

I'm agreeing with a lot of this.
I've been pretty harsh on his play in recent years and I'm with you on his improvement. He is better this year but , to pay him more money to keep him is stretching.
What I would like to see is, put him in a package and get a better skill level OT, so I would Trade him.

 

[Largent80]

They already declined to pick up his option. That's a pretty clear indicator they are prepared to move on.

I don't believe that is any any indicator but more of a challenge to improve and he has.

 

[Fade]

There will be a dumb team that will be willing to give him something along the lines of 5yrs 40M, if not more.

I would take the comp pick. 2 yrs 10M would be my price, but he isn't signing for that, when he can get way more elsewhere.

Jamarco Jones can play RT for pennies on the dollar, and I like his prodpects.

 

[Jville]

The question can be expanded to include George Fant ..... and others.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/JohnPGilbertNFL/status/1197196035338231809[/tweet]
With 31 other teams out there and with some of those options committed to a quicker passing offense, I would think Ifedi would want to take his time and evaluate his options. I see Ifedi as a serviceable late bloomer who might better fit and thrive in another offense. A friendlier and supportive fan base might further reinforce his confidence.

George Fant would also be well advised to seek out and weight his options.

Full Disclosure: I haven't viewed the evolving Wilson centrist offense as historically attractive for offensive linemen. I think there will continue to be an ongoing need to spend draft capital and make waiver claims to fill out an offensive line. That could change as Wilson's game evolves and he continues his remarkable journey.

We'll see. :biggthumpup:

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Philly just extended their RT, four years, $75M, two thirds guaranteed...https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/201 ... iladelphia

So while Ifedi is not an Lane Johnson, he of late has been acceptable in a position many teams struggle to fill. Draft picks are even more unreliable on the o-line. Fluker and Iupati are below $3M on salary, but now get per-game bonuses of over $60K and $30K per game, respectively.

Ifedi has youth so I could see going a little higher, say about $5M but not the $12M that the FieldGulls article argues he'd be worth on the open market. Not especially if we're going to be churning the roster there as hard as some here say.

 

[sutz]

Philly just extended their RT, four years, $75M, two thirds guaranteed...https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/201 ... iladelphia

So while Ifedi is not an Lane Johnson, he of late has been acceptable in a position many teams struggle to fill. Draft picks are even more unreliable on the o-line. Fluker and Iupati are below $3M on salary, but now get per-game bonuses of over $60K and $30K per game, respectively.

Ifedi has youth so I could see going a little higher, say about $5M but not the $12M that the FieldGulls article argues he'd be worth on the open market. Not especially if we're going to be churning the roster there as hard as some here say.

Unless you luck into a top 5/10 LT, OL is a position that needs some time to see how well they will do, perhaps moreso than any position short of WR. If you find a good one, it is wise to hang onto them. One thing good about Pete/John is that they tend to get at least 1 OL every draft, and usually a couple, to keep young guys in the pipeline. I said above I would prefer to keep Ifedi, as he has gone through that breaking in period and has been decent this year. But I would not get into a bidding war for him if some team goes nuts with an offer for him. OL needs continuity, so I would prefer to change as few bodies up front as possible but if Ifedi gets stupid money elsewhere, I could live with it.

 

[Northwest Seahawk]

Yes they should pay Ifedi . He's not he best RT but he stays healthy is good in the running game and has gotten better. I wouldn't make him the highest paid RT but they won't have to. I doubt Ifedi will want to leave Seattle.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Whelp due to the Lane Johnson signing (and Trent Brown in OAK), FG is arguing that indeed the market for RT has been inflated and Ifedi could easily go for up to...$17M

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2019/11/30/2 ... e-seahawks

 

[raisethe3]

^^^But he's not going to command 17 million though. Like many people said, he sucks or at least serviceable. He's out of his mind if he does ask for that, and I highly doubt any team would pay him that much. All they need to do is watch the tapes of Ifedi and the underlying answer is there.

 

[Fade]

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Teams are going to break the bank for Ifedi.

 

[Mad Dog]

^^^But he's not going to command 17 million though. Like many people said, he sucks or at least serviceable. He's out of his mind if he does ask for that, and I highly doubt any team would pay him that much. All they need to do is watch the tapes of Ifedi and the underlying answer is there.

He's also not going to go for as low as 4 million as some people seem to think. You can't get trash for 4 million at OT. I suspect he'll be in the 10-14 mil per year range.

 

[jammerhawk]

MD that number seems high, and if that is what his price is then some other team should pay it. Britt who is generally a better player is less expensive than that number most every fan thinks Britt will be released for cap reasons.

I suspect Ifedi will try the market and eventually when interest is weak sign back with the Hawks for less than he asked initially. Frankly I'd rather find a young player without the numerous faults of Ifedi.

 

[toffee]

What are our options?

1. Can Fant play RT at Ifedi's level? How's Fant's contract situation?
2. Can Jamarco play RT? He is still on his rookie contract, right?
3. Pocic? I think he sucked more so than Ifedi?
4. Anyone else on our current roster that can replace Ifedi?

 

[Seahawkfan80]

Question...since they did not pick up his 5th year option, can they rescind that and pick it back up? or is it they have to try to get him on a new contract?

I believe they need to look for a decent fair price for an average Lineman. Any more than that, let him walk. As has been said above, Offensive linemen do not grow on trees and the learning curve for most going to the NFL is a bit more than what it used to be. 2 years sometimes. Britt took 3.

One final note.......WE ARE STILL IN A REBUILDing Year. Retool, refit, refill...whatever you want to call it. So getting people from the draft may fill our needs.

 

[massari]

What are our options?

1. Can Fant play RT at Ifedi's level? How's Fant's contract situation?
2. Can Jamarco play RT? He is still on his rookie contract, right?
3. Pocic? I think he sucked more so than Ifedi?
4. Anyone else on our current roster that can replace Ifedi?

If Ifedi is truly worth $12-$14M to the low tier desperate franchises, then someone will likely overpay for Fant as well. That writer at Field Gulls brought up the signing of Chris Hubbard from a couple years ago to get an idea of what Fant could be worth.

Seems like the best thing to do with mediocre OT's is let the desperate franchises overpay then collect the comp pick, and use a high pick on one whenever you lose one if you don't have a decent option to replace him.

As for Jamarco Jones, some people are saying he has no chance at RT because of his bad combine, but he was the starting LT in college for two seasons at Ohio State and was selected to the First-team All-Big Ten team. He was also getting reps with the first team at right tackle with the Seahawks during training camp 2018 when he was competing with Ifedi before he got injured.

 

[toffee]

What are our options?

1. Can Fant play RT at Ifedi's level? How's Fant's contract situation?
2. Can Jamarco play RT? He is still on his rookie contract, right?
3. Pocic? I think he sucked more so than Ifedi?
4. Anyone else on our current roster that can replace Ifedi?

If Ifedi is truly worth $12-$14M to the low tier desperate franchises, then someone will likely overpay for Fant as well. That writer at Field Gulls brought up the signing of Chris Hubbard from a couple years ago to get an idea of what Fant could be worth.

Seems like the best thing to do with mediocre OT's is let the desperate franchises overpay then collect the comp pick, and use a high pick on one whenever you lose one if you don't have a decent option to replace him.

As for Jamarco Jones, some people are saying he has no chance at RT because of his bad combine, but he was the starting LT in college for two seasons at Ohio State and was selected to the First-team All-Big Ten team. He was also getting reps with the first team at right tackle with the Seahawks during training camp 2018 when he was competing with Ifedi before he got injured.

My take would be to pick one to keep between Fant and Ifedi, I suspect the level of play might be similar between those two, but Ifedi is more durable. Jamarco is another story, he could be in for the run as eventual Brown replacement, could also convert him to guard as he did quite OK as sub this season.