Should we pay Ifedi?

[raisethe3]

Depends on the money. He's serviceable.

 

[chris98251]

He is like the only one that has stayed healthy since he has been here, Haynes, Jones, Knox, Simmons and Fant along with Pocic and Hunt are in the wings. We just have not seen much of them, getting them healthy and up to speed for the year and we should see some of them step into rolls next year for Fluker and Iupati.

 

[xray]

after Monday night's game when he will be up against Hunter he will look very expendable . IMO

 

[xray]

after Monday night's game when he will be up against Hunter he will look very expendable . IMO

 

[Sox-n-Hawks]

Pete and John haven't paid many linemen. I'll be really surprised if the shell out anything significant for Ifedi the false start machine.

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

Pete and John haven't paid many linemen. I'll be really surprised if the shell out anything significant for Ifedi the false start machine.

Could you say the reason for that is because of Cable and false promises of making linemen out of scrubs?

 

[Sox-n-Hawks]

Pete and John haven't paid many linemen. I'll be really surprised if the shell out anything significant for Ifedi the false start machine.

Could you say the reason for that is because of Cable and false promises of making linemen out of scrubs?

No. I think they pay one linemen good money (Duane Brown currently) and make the others compete for it. Ifedi isn't there yet. Next Man up.

 

[Mad Dog]

Pete and John haven't paid many linemen. I'll be really surprised if the shell out anything significant for Ifedi the false start machine.

I know but I also think it's been a mistake with guys like Carpenter and Okung.
We've ended up paying more money in the long run for rental scrubs like Joeckl and Webb.

I think in the end we won't pay Ifedi because I'm not sure he brings the leadership component Seattle likes in their second contract players. Certainly Avril has been critical of Ifedi's entitlement attitude at times.

 

[massari]

The writer of that piece suggests "$12M or more per season he could earn on the open market."

Just take the comp pick, roll with Fant/Jones/Wheeler/cheap FA with upside, and look for an OT in the 1st or 2nd rd that could eventually move over to LT to replace Brown in a couple seasons.

So let Britt and Ifedi go then try to draft an OT and C with two of the three picks in the first two rounds.

 

[Mad Dog]

The writer of that piece suggests "$12M or more per season he could earn on the open market."

Just take the comp pick, roll with Fant/Jones/Wheeler/cheap FA with upside, and look for an OT in the 1st or 2nd rd that could eventually move over to LT to replace Brown in a couple seasons.

So let Britt and Ifedi go then try to draft an OT and C with two of the three picks in the first two rounds.

I guess but we are going to need edge rushers, DT, CB depth in the draft too.

There are no cheap FA OL with upside. Ifedi would likely be the closest thing. Any OL with upside is getting a big contract these days because of their rarity. Every time we go with cheap FA on the OL, they've stunk the joint out.

Continuity to me is a key feature of OL building. Dumping every average OL after their rookie deal has not been working very well for us, so why continue that trend. Why note try something different and at least offer a guy a market representative deal.

 

[massari]

I guess but we are going to need edge rushers, DT, CB depth in the draft too.

There are no cheap FA OL with upside. Ifedi would likely be the closest thing. Any OL with upside is getting a big contract these days because of their rarity. Every time we go with cheap FA on the OL, they've stunk the joint out.

Continuity to me is a key feature of OL building. Dumping every average OL after their rookie deal has not been working very well for us, so why continue that trend. Why note try something different and at least offer a guy a market representative deal.

I'd be satisfied if they're able to secure any three of DE/OT/C/CB with the first three picks, assuming they re-sign Clowney and Reed while letting Ifedi and Britt go.

They were able to get a cheap OT with upside in Chad Wheeler last month. Spending 2 min looking at the FA list, maybe guys like Brandon Shell, Jerald Hawkins, David Sharpe, Le'Raven Clark ect can be that guy to bring in as even more depth to compete next training camp with Fant, Jones, Wheeler and a high draft pick.

The Seahawks finished top 4 in the NFL in total yards the season after Carpenter and Unger left, then slipped down to 12th the next season in 2016 after Okung left. But pretty sure you can't compare Ifedi to Okung and Unger's production. Okung and Unger were likely only let go because of their injury problems.

 

[Sox-n-Hawks]

Pete and John haven't paid many linemen. I'll be really surprised if the shell out anything significant for Ifedi the false start machine.

I know but I also think it's been a mistake with guys like Carpenter and Okung.
We've ended up paying more money in the long run for rental scrubs like Joeckl and Webb.

I think in the end we won't pay Ifedi because I'm not sure he brings the leadership component Seattle likes in their second contract players. Certainly Avril has been critical of Ifedi's entitlement attitude at times.

And Max Unger

 

[Mad Dog]

I guess but we are going to need edge rushers, DT, CB depth in the draft too.

There are no cheap FA OL with upside. Ifedi would likely be the closest thing. Any OL with upside is getting a big contract these days because of their rarity. Every time we go with cheap FA on the OL, they've stunk the joint out.

Continuity to me is a key feature of OL building. Dumping every average OL after their rookie deal has not been working very well for us, so why continue that trend. Why note try something different and at least offer a guy a market representative deal.

I'd be satisfied if they're able to secure any three of DE/OT/C/CB with the first three picks, assuming they re-sign Clowney and Reed while letting Ifedi and Britt go.

They were able to get a cheap OT with upside in Chad Wheeler last month. Spending 2 min looking at the FA list, maybe guys like Brandon Shell, Jerald Hawkins, David Sharpe, Le'Raven Clark ect can be that guy to bring in as even more depth to compete next training camp with Fant, Jones, Wheeler and a high draft pick.

The Seahawks finished top 4 in the NFL in total yards the season after Carpenter and Unger left, then slipped down to 12th the next season in 2016 after Okung left. But pretty sure you can't compare Ifedi to Okung and Unger's production. Okung and Unger were likely only let go because of their injury problems.

I guess your definition of upside is different from mine. To me, "I thought he was good coming out of college" is not upside. He was undrafted for several reasons, injury prone and off field issues not the least. So I'm not putting any faith in him as being anything other than roster churn fodder.

And I'm not sure "total yards" is a sign of OL proficiency. Wilson and Lynch had significant abilities to produce behind deficient blocking and are probably the biggest reason we succeeded in those days. But the OL never really passed the eye test as "good".

Wilson's getting older and doesn't have that same burst. So pocket protection is now critical to sustaining the offense. i'd like the turnover to be minimized. If we lose Ifedi, then we could be looking at starting next season with 4 new starters on the OL which is a big turnover.

That being said, if losing Ifedi means we can sign Clowney, then "don't let the door hit you on the backside on your way out, big fella."

 

[JerHawk81]

The writer of that piece suggests "$12M or more per season he could earn on the open market."

Just take the comp pick, roll with Fant/Jones/Wheeler/cheap FA with upside, and look for an OT in the 1st or 2nd rd that could eventually move over to LT to replace Brown in a couple seasons..

I'm actually somewhat bullish on Ifedi, but not at $12M. I'd happily pay him around $4M and could be happy with $6M-$8M with the right terms. But $12M for me is not even in the ballpark.

 

[massari]

And I'm not sure "total yards" is a sign of OL proficiency. Wilson and Lynch had significant abilities to produce behind deficient blocking and are probably the biggest reason we succeeded in those days.

That was Lynch's final season here when he was injured and past his prime. When Rawls took over.

After Fant's horrendous first half in his first start at LT this season, he played well the 2nd half of that game and it continued on to his next start where he was the highest graded Seahawk OL.

"Fant improved tremendously in his second start at left tackle, earning a 79.2 pass block grade."

 

[Mick063]

The team has let better players walk.

I'm against paying him. If the team insists on paying a veteran contract for the position, bring in someone else in free agency.

 

[Bigpumpkin]

I would not offer him over $5 million a year. He just receives too many "motion" penalties. I can't remember a game when he was not called for "motion".

 

[Spin Doctor]

Absolutely not. Throughout his entire career he's been graded as one of the worst lineman in the NFL. He has also been the most penalized player in both 2018 and he was leading the league in penalties in 2019. Ifedi is not a good player, and he makes stupid decisions come game time. He is not worth keeping, we can do better than Ifedi, it wouldn't be very hard to do. The Seahawks also go through great lengths to give him extra help via play calling and TE/RB.

Ifedi is the weak link on our line, he needs to go.

 

[Largent80]

I would give him a second contract. It's not going to be terribly expensive and he has become serviceable. There are plenty of other O-Line issues this coming off season. Fant and Hunt are UFA. Britt and Pocic injuries. Brown a year older, and Iupati and Fluker always have an injury.

 

[IndyHawk]

Let him go and get a pick..
There are OL in the draft,FA,UDFA's and OL's on practice squads.
Do the research and get someone who knows OL's to submit a
long list to JS and get a few,it's not that hard.
The FO has shown they aren't good at drafting them but by now
they should have a very good idea of what they need but I would
get an expert from somewhere to compile a list and use it.
$5 million is a waste when we can get them younger,better and cheaper.