Should Geno join Pete in Vegas?

[Mick063]

The guy that started Clipboard Jesus and Tavaris Jackson will not get caught up with mortgaging the future by spending his draft capital on a 45-million-dollar QB. Brady has a say in this as well. I think they go the Russell Wilson route. No, not bringing in Russell Wilson himself, but taking a flyer in the 2nd/3rd round on a QB, like for example, Quinn Ewers. In that respect, Pete doesn't want Geno to be his next Matt Flynn when the fore mentioned rookie QB gets drafted.

 

[toffee]

The guy that started Clipboard Jesus and Tavaris Jackson will not get caught up with mortgaging the future by spending his draft capital on a 45-million-dollar QB. Brady has a say in this as well. I think they go the Russell Wilson route. No, not bringing in Russell Wilson himself, but taking a flyer in the 2nd/3rd round on a QB like, for example, Quinn Ewers. In that respect, Pete doesn't want Geno to be his next Matt Flynn when the fore mentioned rookie QB gets drafted.

Pete will wait, he won't show his hands, just wait patiently for Schneider to pull the trigger and cut Geno Smith, and Lockett.

A chess game is going on right now.

 

[Rat]

Pete's not even the GM.

I think people way overstate the pull Brady has there, but even if he does have a say as a very small minority owner, we have absolutely nothing that would show us what kind of preferences he has, given he has zero experience as an NFL executive.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

It'd be the movie Any Given Sunday come to life.

So true.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Pete's not even the GM.

I think people way overstate the pull Brady has there, but even if he does have a say as a very small minority owner, we have absolutely nothing that would show us what kind of preferences he has, given he has zero experience as an NFL executive.

He's only around a 10 percent owner if I remember correctly. He still has a say, but ultimately you're right, it is still the Davis show.

 

[seabowl]

Mike and John awaiting for the .Net poll to make a decision on whether or not Geno should stay

 

[Rat]

He's only around a 10 percent owner if I remember correctly. He still has a say, but ultimately you're right, it is still the Davis show.

Brady personally owns 5%, but it was purchased with his "business partner" who also got 5%, so together they made one purchase for a 10% stake.

Honestly, that's higher than I thought it was going to when I called him a "very small minority" owner, as I can't imagine Brady has anywhere near the cash to purchase anything resembling a significant stake of an NFL team, but I assume his partner is very, very rich.

 

[toffee]

 

[Hollandhawk]

I saw we swap 7th rounders and give them Witherspoon (eat his contract) if they take Geno and his contract.

 

[JayhawkMike]

The guy that started Clipboard Jesus and Tavaris Jackson will not get caught up with mortgaging the future by spending his draft capital on a 45-million-dollar QB. Brady has a say in this as well. I think they go the Russell Wilson route. No, not bringing in Russell Wilson himself, but taking a flyer in the 2nd/3rd round on a QB, like for example, Quinn Ewers. In that respect, Pete doesn't want Geno to be his next Matt Flynn when the fore mentioned rookie QB gets drafted.

As should we.

 

[Mick063]

Pete will wait, he won't show his hands, just wait patiently for Schneider to pull the trigger and cut Geno Smith, and Lockett.

A chess game is going on right now.

Yea, I still think that the 45-mil contract is more of the decider than the draft capital required to trade for him. In other words, I doubt the Raiders wait for Geno to be cut (he probably won't be). You go ahead and spend draft capital if you are worried about competing with another team in a free agent type situation. I don't think the Raiders are in that situation. Like I said, I think they go for the 3rd, 4th, or 5th best QB in the draft instead. Wilson was a third-round pick, Luck was first overall. I think Pete goes for catching lightning in a bottle again.

As for Seattle, I still think the best route is to just play out Geno's final year of his contract (but listen to offers because who knows what may be offered?). Let go of the expensive edge rushers to make room.

 

[CallMeADawg]

I saw we swap 7th rounders and give them Witherspoon (eat his contract) if they take Geno and his contract.

 

[toffee]

Yea, I still think that the 45-mil contract is more of the decider than the draft capital required to trade for him. In other words, I doubt the Raiders wait for Geno to be cut (he probably won't be). You go ahead and spend draft capital if you are worried about competing with another team in a free agent type situation. I don't think the Raiders are in that situation. Like I said, I think they go for the 3rd, 4th, or 5th best QB in the draft instead. Wilson was a third-round pick, Luck was first overall. I think Pete goes for catching lightning in a bottle again.

As for Seattle, I still think the best route is to just play out Geno's final year of his contract (but listen to offers because who knows what may be offered?). Let go of the expensive edge rushers to make room.

That will cost too much to keep Geno, and it will also retard the development of of Sam Howell. Schneider and Macdonald didn't invest trade capital on no Sam Howell for him to hold a clipboard.

Geno has been on borrowed time the second Howe was signed.

 

[Spin Doctor]

That will cost too much to keep Geno, and it will also retard the development of of Sam Howell. Schneider and Macdonald didn't invest trade capital on no Sam Howell for him to hold a clipboard.

Geno has been on borrowed time the second Howe was signed.

I'm not so sure that they even look at Howell as a viable long term option. I look at it this way, Howell's contract is a rounding error on the spreadsheet. He's on a rookie deal and most experienced backups cost a lot of money. They did what is essentially trading down to pick up Howell -- I think it was the equivalent of giving up a fourth or fifth round pick. Way cheaper than bringing Lock back.

I think JS liked his potential, but we haven't really heard anything about him in TC. In action he looked like the same exact guy that we saw at Washington. Good deal of hesitation, double clutching, etc, etc. He's this generations Charlie Whitehurst. A guy that has the potential to develop into something, but not necessarily a guy you stake your future on

At the end of the day I don't think Howell has much bearing on what Seattle decides to do with Geno.

 

[toffee]

I'm not so sure that they even look at Howell as a viable long term option. I look at it this way, Howell's contract is a rounding error on the spreadsheet. He's on a rookie deal and most experienced backups cost a lot of money. They did what is essentially trading down to pick up Howell -- I think it was the equivalent of giving up a fourth or fifth round pick. Way cheaper than bringing Lock back.

I think JS liked his potential, but we haven't really heard anything about him in TC. In action he looked like the same exact guy that we saw at Washington. Good deal of hesitation, double clutching, etc, etc. He's this generations Charlie Whitehurst. A guy that has the potential to develop into something, but not necessarily a guy you stake your future on

At the end of the day I don't think Howell has much bearing on what Seattle decides to do with Geno.

Is Howell a younger and more willing to run version of Geno Smith?

 

[Double Tribble]

I think Howell is the perfect stopgap qb to get us to the [qb rich] '26 draft. We would likely pick in the top ten, making it much easier to trade up for a Manning or similar if necessary. If we start Geno again, that opportunity almost certainly vanishes, and we will be on the outside looking in again. And you never know, Howell may develop into a good qb with significant playing time. It's a win-win either way, and it would make for a very interesting 2025 season.

 

[Rat]

I remember when people thought Pete was going to go all out to try to acquire everyone he coached at USC. I think the most capital he spent acquiring any of them was when we moved down seven spots in the fourth round and nine spots in the sixth round for LenDale White. The Titans also traded us DT Kevin Vickerson in that deal.

Other than that, it was stuff like a sixth rounder on Anthony McCoy, a seventh rounder on Malcolm Smith, Mike Morgan was a UDFA, Mike Williams signed for the minimum, etc.

He's not going to be the GM in Vegas anyway.

 

[toffee]

Mike and John awaiting for the .Net poll to make a decision on whether or not Geno should stay

.NET? that is easy, geNO is a goner.

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

If Pete and the Raiders wanna give a 3rd Rounder or something for Geno then I say have fun in Vegas.

 

[BGHawk]

Yes please