Seattle vs. Atlanta matchups

[treefidy]

Slightly off topic or not, here's an interesting little tidbit to ponder:

no NFL team that has led the league in passing yardage has won a Superbowl that year, ever.

Not sure what this means, other than Quinn better be looking for ways to lower the Falcs numbers if they want the prize at the end. Maybe he'll take it easy on the Hawks and only throw for treefiddy or so. Gosh, I sure hope so.

1999 Rams

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats? ... &Submit=Go

 

[pcbball12]

Slightly off topic or not, here's an interesting little tidbit to ponder:

no NFL team that has led the league in passing yardage has won a Superbowl that year, ever.

Not sure what this means, other than Quinn better be looking for ways to lower the Falcs numbers if they want the prize at the end. Maybe he'll take it easy on the Hawks and only throw for treefiddy or so. Gosh, I sure hope so.

1999 Rams

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats? ... &Submit=Go

The Rams also had the #4 scoring defense in the league that year too only giving up 15.1 PPG...just about half of what your defense gives up so far.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...onType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go

 

[pcbball12]

Slightly off topic or not, here's an interesting little tidbit to ponder:

no NFL team that has led the league in passing yardage has won a Superbowl that year, ever.

Not sure what this means, other than Quinn better be looking for ways to lower the Falcs numbers if they want the prize at the end. Maybe he'll take it easy on the Hawks and only throw for treefiddy or so. Gosh, I sure hope so.

1999 Rams

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats? ... &Submit=Go

The Rams also had the #4 scoring defense in the league that year too only giving up 15.1 PPG...just about half of what your defense gives up so far.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...onType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go

And also, if you go through year by year you will notice something about defense. The only team that has won a SB since 99 without a top 10 scoring defense (they were 12th) were the 2012 Ravens.

 

[Fade]

$3.50

The weak schedule argument would be valid if the Seahawks had not been a great team the last 4 years. Seattle is the team that has the pelts on the wall. The LOB in their prime, with a Franchise QB entering his.

So are you telling me the LOB, Russell Wilson, Jimmy Graham, Baldwin, suddenly aren't that good now, (even though they have played great so far this year.) because a 4 game sample size against perceived weak opponents to start the year invalidates it, while ignoring the previous 4 seasons with the core team, and HC still intact?

INSANE.

The shoe is actually on the other foot, it's the Falcons that have to prove they are legit by consistently beating good teams. Your insecurity proves it, by running around other teams forums seeking validation based off a 5 game sample size. "Hey Gize look at theze numbersz in 5 gamez" While simultaneously dismissing a 4 year+ proven track record at the same time.

Again, the weak schedule argument would be valid, if the Seahawks hadn't done anything in recent years. Or the core group of players were gone, or the Head Coach had moved on, none of these are the case though.

The NFL is a game of matchups, and when you play teams, more than numbers anyway.

Matchup wise the teams that give the Seahawks fits, are the ones that have dominant Defensive Lines. That wreak havoc, and can live in the backfield. The Rams, the Vikings, etc.

ATL does not fit this profile with their defensive line.

 

[treefidy]

The Rams also had the #4 scoring defense in the league that year too only giving up 15.1 PPG...just about half of what your defense gives up so far.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...onType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go

That's pretty cool. Only 11 more games of Data Gathering to go before we have to worry about that huh?

 

[treefidy]

And also, if you go through year by year you will notice something about defense. The only team that has won a SB since 99 without a top 10 scoring defense (they were 12th) were the 2012 Ravens.

That is also wrong.

2009 Saints - #13
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats? ... fied=false

2007 Giants - #16
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats? ... fied=false

 

[Tical21]

The Falcons have three players that would start for the Seahawks. 2 if Rawls wasn't hurt. Their only chance to win relies on picking apart the best corner in this era. I'll take my chances.

 

[NINEster]

The Niners play early but I think I'm gonna have to stay up to 2:30 am to see this game in its entirety. :irishdrinkers:

 

[NINEster]

The Falcons have three players that would start for the Seahawks. 2 if Rawls wasn't hurt. Their only chance to win relies on picking apart the best corner in this era. I'll take my chances.

Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, and Coleman?

That's it?

Gotta be at least one more guy. Nobody on the Falcons OL?

 

[NINEster]

Falcons fans:

What's better/worse on this year's team versus 2012?

 

[keatonisballin]

So I know it doesn't exactly work this way. But the "incredible amazing best D ever" Denver D that gave up 23 to ATL, just gave up 21 to SD of all teams. I think Denver isn't as good as everyone previously thought. And we have a better D.

 

[Grahamhawker]

Slightly off topic or not, here's an interesting little tidbit to ponder:

no NFL team that has led the league in passing yardage has won a Superbowl that year, ever.

Not sure what this means, other than Quinn better be looking for ways to lower the Falcs numbers if they want the prize at the end. Maybe he'll take it easy on the Hawks and only throw for treefiddy or so. Gosh, I sure hope so.

1999 Rams

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats? ... &Submit=Go

I'll own that I missed that one. My bad.

 

[Uncle Si]

The Falcons have three players that would start for the Seahawks. 2 if Rawls wasn't hurt. Their only chance to win relies on picking apart the best corner in this era. I'll take my chances.

Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, and Coleman?

That's it?

Gotta be at least one more guy. Nobody on the Falcons OL?

Knock it off. it's getting old.

 

[NINEster]

Slightly off topic or not, here's an interesting little tidbit to ponder:

no NFL team that has led the league in passing yardage has won a Superbowl that year, ever.

Not sure what this means, other than Quinn better be looking for ways to lower the Falcs numbers if they want the prize at the end. Maybe he'll take it easy on the Hawks and only throw for treefiddy or so. Gosh, I sure hope so.

That may be true and all but Quinn doesn't need an SB win for a successful season.

Just to beat his old team and win NFC South.

 

[NINEster]

The Falcons have three players that would start for the Seahawks. 2 if Rawls wasn't hurt. Their only chance to win relies on picking apart the best corner in this era. I'll take my chances.

Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, and Coleman?

That's it?

Gotta be at least one more guy. Nobody on the Falcons OL?

Knock it off. it's getting old.

What, seriously??

This guy is claiming a 4-1 team only has 3 guys worthy of being on a 3-1 team?

It's understood the OL is not a strength. Or is it a strength just to win certain arguments, and "garbage" to excuse poor O play whenever that happens?

 

[Uncle Si]

The Falcons have three players that would start for the Seahawks. 2 if Rawls wasn't hurt. Their only chance to win relies on picking apart the best corner in this era. I'll take my chances.

Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, and Coleman?

That's it?

Gotta be at least one more guy. Nobody on the Falcons OL?

Knock it off. it's getting old.

What, seriously??

This guy is claiming a 4-1 team only has 3 guys worthy of being on a 3-1 team?

It's understood the OL is not a strength. Or is it a strength just to win certain arguments, and "garbage" to excuse poor O play whenever that happens?

You know what you're doing in that post. dont be daft.

 

[fuego]

So I know it doesn't exactly work this way. But the "incredible amazing best D ever" Denver D that gave up 23 to ATL, just gave up 21 to SD of all teams. I think Denver isn't as good as everyone previously thought. And we have a better D.

"SD of all teams"? SD is #2 in offense in the NFL. SD is not a bad team. They just haven't learned how to finish. They finished last night finally.

 

[hawkfan68]

Offense wins regular season games, while defense wins championships..

Run along now treefiddyexcuses, and go dig on some stats.

Good thing this game is being played during the regular season then huh?

And with the way our Defense is trending, that gives us hope for a future meeting.

Seahawks have won enough regular season games to be in the playoffs 4 straight seasons (2012-2015). Can the Falcons claim that? No. The Seahawks have a super bowl ring...the Falcons just have a ring around the collar.

Nice. I bet that will win them all the games in 2016...

That may not win all their games in 2016 but it definitely shows their track record of consistently winning to be there in playoffs. Something Atlanta doesn't have...that type of track record.

By the way, since you keep harping on the #1 offense thing...why don't you look up who had the #1 offenses in the regular season the last few seasons? How did they fare?

2013-14 - Denver Broncos. Lost to the Seahawks in SB48.
2014-15 - New Orleans Saints. Finished 7-9 and didn't make the playoffs.
2015-16 - Arizona Cardinals. Lost to the Panthers 49-15 in NFC championship game.

How many of those #1 offenses won the superbowl? None. Only one #1 offense made the superbowl in the last 3 seasons.

Have your #1 offense cake....your team probably won't be playing in late January- February when the games mean much more.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Our OL dominates your DL. Did you watch film of the Denver game? That was not a fluke. This OL was good last year minus the center and that improved leaps and bounds with Alex Mack (pro bowl center)

DL is definitely more than Beasley. Sunday was his first monster game of his career. Freeney and Clayborne are the more experienced rushers. Freeney will get there on third and passing downs. Clayborne, you never know. Still, the pass rush isn't anything amazing. Not sure how good your line actually is, but from reading these forums over the years, it's seemed to be a weakness. Will be a fun matchup, I can't call this one either way.

As far as nobody being able to cover Graham. Ishmael has had to cover Graham before. We moved him from Safety to LB last week and I assume he'll be there again. With Neal (very Chancellor like) at safety, we've done well in back to back weeks vs the TE (Olsen is no slouch). Alford will be the guy you want to attack. Not because he isn't good, but he's a bone head ala Browner. He commits stupid penalties on plays he actually makes without committing them. Whoever Trufant is on will have very limited catches. That's a promise. He is WAY underestimated. Especially on this board.

Your defense is great. No doubt. Denver's is better all around. Our offense is no fluke and I can promise you, there will be more than a few match ups exploited. We have 8 receivers with over 100 yards receiving, 6 with over 150, 3 with 200 or more and 2 with 300 or more. We also have two running backs with 150 or more yards rushing and one with over 400 yards. There are way too many options for Ryan and as long as he keeps it mistake free, this Offense is scoring a lot.

This should be an awesome game.

Lol.... come back and eat Falcon when they get smashed by 20+.... hawks are going to run away with this game.

 

[Tical21]

The Falcons have three players that would start for the Seahawks. 2 if Rawls wasn't hurt. Their only chance to win relies on picking apart the best corner in this era. I'll take my chances.

Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, and Coleman?

That's it?

Gotta be at least one more guy. Nobody on the Falcons OL?

Lil punk. Julio, Freeman and Trufant. I considered Mack, but Britt is younger, chraper, and rising.

Knock it off. it's getting old.

What, seriously??

This guy is claiming a 4-1 team only has 3 guys worthy of being on a 3-1 team?

It's understood the OL is not a strength. Or is it a strength just to win certain arguments, and "garbage" to excuse poor O play whenever that happens?

Very funny.

Julio, Freeman and Trufant. I considered Mack, but Britt is younger, far cheaper, and on the come. If there was a competition for a spot between the two, the Hawks would go forward with Britt. I probably should include Schrader though, he's pretty good.