Sean Payton Was Toxic in Denver, Not Russell Wilson?

[GeekHawk]

To me that defines a winner. A coach willing to win at any cost. Hope Macdonald is like that, but just doesn't get caught.

I'm gratified to learn that we have very divergent points of view.

 

[fenderbender123]

I'm gratified to learn that we have very divergent points of view.

Just think of how blissful it would be if the Hawks win a few Super bowls. They'll have cheated, but they won't get caught, the history books will never know, and neither will us fans. Wouldn't that be great, to experience that level of success all the while thinking it was legitimate?

 

[GeekHawk]

Are you from New England?

 

[hawkfan68]

Between SP and RW, only one of them was suspended by the NFL for putting bounties on injuries to opposing players. That pretty much defines a prick and a piece of shit. I've seen nothing to change that opinion.

Russ has as many SB rings as Sean Payton does. Payton got lucky Brees came along. If he didn't Payton would have the same amount of Superbowl rings as I do.

 

[fenderbender123]

Are you from New England?

Nope. Houston.

 

[warden]

What about the year before Payton Showed up.

 

[onanygivensunday]

Nope. Houston.

Disgusting. One of the armpits of America, weatherwise.

 

[Lagartixa]

Just think of how blissful it would be if the Hawks win a few Super bowls. They'll have cheated, but they won't get caught, the history books will never know, and neither will us fans. Wouldn't that be great, to experience that level of success all the while thinking it was legitimate?

Are you from New England?

(A nominee for .NET Comment of the Year, if you ask me, and I grew up in Maine)

Nope. Houston.

So are you a fan of your hometown baseball team, then? Happy with that 2017 title? Do you believe it won the 2019 and 2021-22 American League pennants and the 2022 World Series without some outside-the-rules advantage?

Or are you like a Cheatriots fan?

Cheatriots fans say that taping opposing teams' walkthroughs and not inflating balls to the minimum pressure the rules specify, despite both things being against the rules and conferring enough of a competitive advantage that Belicheat and the GCoAT (Greatest Cheater of All Time) were willing to risk the consequences of getting caught in order to obtain that competitive advantage, are not really cheating at all, and are very minor things, and never mind that doing something outside the rules to obtain a competitive advantage is the definition of cheating!

 

[fenderbender123]

I just want the Seahawks to win. It makes me happy.

 

[IndyHawk]

Nope. Houston.

You visit Pmedic yet? Your neighbors pretty much.

 

[jeremiah]

I think it’s more nuanced than offense bad=Russ bad. They had the most injuries in the league on that side of the ball and Russ still had pretty good efficiency numbers. He wasn’t great but he wasn’t bad either. I get it people hate Russ but it wasn’t a catastrophe in Denver despite losing their running back,3 of their top 4 receivers and multiple lineman. So I’ll agree to disagree. I think some people have a bias that clouds them on Russ a little bit.

When Russ was the darling of Seattle, and to speak badly of his made you a pariah, I wrote of my frustrations with first his running around instead of planting his foot and picking a route that was open. To his obvious packing on of muscle and weight, which took away his nimble feet in the pocket. People were 90% against my negative thoughts. Now, it seems like all hate RW and all he stood for as if he personally screwed their spouse. I don't get it. I really don't. He was a great player in Seattle, he got out and went to Denver, that was a positive in terms of drafts and the future, but now he is Lucifer himself. Fickle fans, the hate is strong in them.

 

[chris98251]

When Russ was the darling of Seattle, and to speak badly of his made you a pariah, I wrote of my frustrations with first his running around instead of planting his foot and picking a route that was open. To his obvious packing on of muscle and weight, which took away his nimble feet in the pocket. People were 90% against my negative thoughts. Now, it seems like all hate RW and all he stood for as if he personally screwed their spouse. I don't get it. I really don't. He was a great player in Seattle, he got out and went to Denver, that was a positive in terms of drafts and the future, but now he is Lucifer himself. Fickle fans, the hate is strong in them.

Tate is the guys that screws other peoples wives.

 

[knownone]

Now, it seems like all hate RW and all he stood for as if he personally screwed their spouse. I don't get it. I really don't. He was a great player in Seattle, he got out and went to Denver, that was a positive in terms of drafts and the future, but now he is Lucifer himself. Fickle fans, the hate is strong in them.

The hate can sometimes get hyperbolic, but Russ did more than just get out and go to Denver. He tried to get Pete and John fired, then threw Jody under the bus when she didn't take his side in the failed coup.

This is one of the rare cases where the sports hate is entirely justified.

 

[RiverDog]

I don't get it. I really don't. He was a great player in Seattle, he got out and went to Denver, that was a positive in terms of drafts and the future, but now he is Lucifer himself. Fickle fans, the hate is strong in them.

My thoughts are very much like that of your own. I don't particularly care for Russell or the way he left our team. He was a great player and a person of whom I greatly admired when he first started out, then something happened. Despite his fall from grace, I'll always be grateful to him for his contributions to the best period of football of Seahawk football in franchise history, including our first and only Lombardi. If I'm in the stadium on the day he's inducted into our ROH, I'll stand and applaud.

Even though that for the past several years, I've secretly chuckled under my breath when he throws an INT or takes a sack, I'm not rooting for him to fail. But that's a long way from hate, which IMO is the most over used term in the English language. In my book, hating a person means you wish they were dead, and I don't think anyone wishes that on Russell.

But semantics aside, I get what you're saying. Like you, I don't agree with the emotions many fans have expressed, that I don't like some of the vitriol that we've seen spewed out over the past few years. But who am I to say that my take is the correct one and theirs isn't?

 

[toffee]

Tate is the guys that screws other peoples wives.

Not swapping?

 

[morgulon1]

Nope. Houston.

I was born in Pasadena,, Texas